Speaker cable makes no difference...

disneyjoe7

Lamp cord works too hahahahaha....

If the Home Depot stuff is too much $ by the foot, you can always go to Dollar General to buy a 25' extension cord and cut the ends off. You then got the best speaker cable pair for less then a buck.

be83663

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

Thank You


And Monster cable it's trash IMHO, well it's what I did with mine anyway all of it. I just won't state how much :eek:

You are also aware that not every Monster speaker cables are created equal. I don't know which cables you had before, but you have got to try their Reference series! They are awesome!!!

ben62670

be83663 wrote: »

You are also aware that not every Monster speaker cables are created equal. I don't know which cables you had before, but you have got to try their Reference series! They are awesome!!!

And this is compared to what cables? With what equipment?

dkg999

Here we go again :eek:

Kex

dkg999 wrote: »

Here we go again :eek:

LOL! Yup. be83663 paid $600 for his cables and is delighted with his purchase. In his opinion that was a bargain. Others will say he just made a generous donation to Monster Cable charity. Why not let him stay happy and just enjoy his gear?! If it works for him, he made the right choice. (Am I feeding the dragon? Hope not.)

BigMac

F1nut wrote: »

Just a friendly suggestion.....instead of reading, start trying cables for yourself as it's the only way that YOU will know for sure.

As for the RR article......throw it out with the trash.

I have been switching out cables for the last few days on my cheap setup....gave me something to do. I used some M speaker wire first that I had from awhile ago, then I went to some older Luminous Audio cables that I got for free basically when I bought a 5.1 Onkyo receiver not to long ago. Then I pulled out a big fat extension cord I had in the attic and cut er' up. Here is what I found sounded best on my system (which is a HUGE POS,lol).

My conclusion was:

1.Luminous Audio
2.Extension cord (seriously)
3.M.....I am actually going to never use them again. Now that these are gone I have my mids back.

I will keep switching out cables BUT imo it wont matter that much right now cause when I do finally upgrade everything I think the cable will sound different on that system. From what I have concluded so far with alot more reading is this:

-Size matters alot (that's what she said,lol)
-Length of cable adds alot of variables (again, that's what she said)
-most cables/speaker wire add their own "sound" or "coloration"to your system
-you can go broke and insane trying to find one that sounds better than another on "your" system

I am almost to the point of brain overload with all this audio stuff I have been reading. Like I read through Ben's mammoth speaker thread and I was speechless. Holy #^$&!! Now that is impressive to say the least. One thing for sure, can anyone say, "Block Party"!!:)

disneyjoe7

be83663 wrote: »

You are also aware that not every Monster speaker cables are created equal. I don't know which cables you had before, but you have got to try their Reference series! They are awesome!!!

Honestly I feel now after being educated with my own hears, Monster cables are at best over priced for what you get. And I feel sorry for you if you indeed spent $600 on cables which in IMHO are worth at best $150. Now lets say if someones $200 sounds better then those $600 Monster wonders I know for sure you too would trash them or sell them on Ebay. As I know you couldn't sell them here, well not what you wanted for them.

be83663

Kex wrote: »

LOL! Yup. be83663 paid $600 for his cables and is delighted with his purchase. In his opinion that was a bargain. Others will say he just made a generous donation to Monster Cable charity. Why not let him stay happy and just enjoy his gear?! If it works for him, he made the right choice. (Am I feeding the dragon? Hope not.)

If you want me to do some calculation on your behalf, I did spent $600 for a total of 180 ft. of speaker wires for my 7.1 system in my huge 20 by 20 by 8 ft. room. That roughly translates into $2.50 per foot of speaker wire, which I think is expensive for a speaker wire, but is good for its qualities; because they are excellent!

Here are the links so that you can have some ideas how these MONSTER Reference speaker wires look differently from what you knew about Monster speaker wires:
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=35
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=37

You can't compare an apple to an orange.

dc55110

PolkClyde wrote: »

How much did you pay for that cable?............ come on now.

That's the point. The cost of that cable was less than the Monster. I got it for free. I build the displays for a company that does custom installation and that is what they use. Seems comparable to Blue Jeans 12awg or Belden in quality and cost ($1.10/ft).

be83663

dc55110 wrote: »

That's the point. The cost of that cable was less than the Monster. I got it for free. I build the displays for a company that does custom installation and that is what they use. Seems comparable to Blue Jeans 12awg or Belden in quality and cost ($1.10/ft).

What do you mean by "less than the Monster"? Let's be clear on which Monster cable you are referring to in comparison to your cable? I want to know.

curved

Monster's marketing is amazing!! So is Bose!! That's all I'm going to say about that

Face

:Yawn:

zingo

curved wrote: »

Monster's marketing is amazing!!

Their legal department is equally unbelievable.

I'm sure no one would argue that Monster Cable costs more than your run of the mill cable, and arguments could be made on either side of the sound quality issue. But I refuse to use their products, new or used, because of their poor ethics.

ben62670

zingo wrote: »

Their legal department is equally unbelievable.

I'm sure no one would argue that Monster Cable costs more than your run of the mill cable, and arguments could be made on either side of the sound quality issue. But I refuse to use their products, new or used, because of their poor ethics.

Its a toss between what you said, and lack of bang for the buck.

be83663

Face wrote: »

:Yawn:

You don't have to be in here if you are bored.

Monster company does have an amazing marketing.

I don't know how other cheaper speaker cables do sound like, but as someone using their Reference series speaker cables, I can tell you this: Use Monster Reference series speaker cables, and hear sweet high notes, crisp middle, strong bass, in a word, transparent, coming out of your LSi series speakers; then you won't regret!

ben62670

be83663 wrote: »

You don't have to be in here if you are bored.

Monster company does have an amazing marketing.

I don't know how other cheaper speaker cables do sound like, but as someone using their Reference series speaker cables, I can tell you this: Use Monster Reference series speaker cables, and hear sweet high notes, crisp middle, strong bass, in a word, transparent, coming out of your LSi series speakers; then you won't regret!

A lot of us have;) Pretty packages, and fat jackets don't make for good sound. You act like we are new at this Try some AudioQuest type4's then report back to us;)

disneyjoe7

be83663 wrote: »

You don't have to be in here if you are bored.

Monster company does have an amazing marketing.

I don't know how other cheaper speaker cables do sound like, but as someone using their Reference series speaker cables, I can tell you this: Use Monster Reference series speaker cables, and hear sweet high notes, crisp middle, strong bass, in a word, transparent, coming out of your LSi series speakers; then you won't regret!

So you think that's it.... Enjoy.

BjornB17

What would happen if i wire my bose speakers with monster cable?












EARGASM :eek:

Kex

BjornB17 wrote: »

What would happen if i wire my bose speakers with monster cable? ...

The speakers will explode into a million pieces and the cables will melt, putting your house on fire ...

ben62670

BjornB17 wrote: »

What would happen if i wire my bose speakers with monster cable?

You are a sick, and twisted individual:eek: Like 90% of the population that believes M, and Bose are the shiznit:rolleyes:

be83663

BjornB17 wrote: »

What would happen if i wire my bose speakers with monster cable?
EARGASM :eek:

Just stop being schizophrenic, and try using Monster products for yourself before judging from what other people who also heard from other people are saying. It's o.k. to use Monster products; Monster products won't eat you alive! Just use Monster products also!

Face

be83663 wrote: »

Just stop being schizophrenic, and try using Monster products for yourself before judging from what other people who also heard from other people are saying. It's o.k. to use Monster products; Monster products won't eat you alive! Just use Monster products also!

I haven't tried their reference lines, but a few of their others. I'd say their quality equals Monoprice.

ben62670

be83663 wrote: »

Just stop being schizophrenic, and try using Monster products for yourself before judging from what other people who also heard from other people are saying. It's o.k. to use Monster products; Monster products won't eat you alive! Just use Monster products also!

Why not open your mind Do a little research. Again what other wires have you compared them to? What equipment have you tried them with? Use the search function, and get your learn on. There is no reason to use M. What do you have for an argument for them? Not trying to insult you. I thought M was the bomb at one time too:o You live you learn, or not:rolleyes:

fbm211

What they said.....I had monster speaker cable hooked up to my 2bs for a few days waiting for my heartland cables to arrive (canare4S11) and I remember it cost almost twice as much as the heartland.Well the heartland cables had better clarity,resolution,tighter bass,and much more bass SLAM.Etc....I think you should invest in audioquest like ben said and HEAR the truth.

disneyjoe7

I have some optical Monster cable which are headed to the trash honest. There really in a box in a closet but give it a year or so and cleaning day there are gone.

There maybe a good Monster lover home somewhere.

Anyone interested?


I had some XM cables once but there are long gone. I trashed like 200' of 14/2 Monster in-wall cable a while ago that's what I think of Monster just a bad buying decision.... Trashed and moved on.

dc55110

Kex wrote: »

The speakers will explode into a million pieces and the cables will melt, putting your house on fire ...

Interesting you should say this... Another company I do work for (a large big box chain that sounds like "dust cry") had a Bose display catch on fire one night. Sprinklers ran for an hour, trashed the whole store. I had to gut it and have it back open two weeks later.

dc55110

be83663 wrote: »

What do you mean by "less than the Monster"? Let's be clear on which Monster cable you are referring to in comparison to your cable? I want to know.

The $1.10/ft price is the installed price, I have no idea what the retail price or their cost/price is.

be83663

fbm211 wrote: »

What they said.....I had monster speaker cable hooked up to my 2bs for a few days waiting for my heartland cables to arrive (canare4S11) and I remember it cost almost twice as much as the heartland.Well the heartland cables had better clarity,resolution,tighter bass,and much more bass SLAM.Etc....I think you should invest in audioquest like ben said and HEAR the truth.

I did check audioquest speaker cable prices, including their Type 4 which is 15 gauge and listed for $240 for a pair of 15 ft. cables, which is 2.5 times as expensive as 12 gauge Monster Z2 Reference series speaker cables that I currently have and love. In comparison, Audioquest's 12 gauge Type 8 cables are $475 for a pair of 15 ft. cables. Am I reading the price right on their brochure? Surely, not every 15 ft. cables are created equal. Even considering this, and even though Audioquest products look nice, they are too expensive for me. Lastly, check their 9 gauge "Volcano" cables; you can literally get a used car instead for a price of a pair 15 ft. of it, $5,750.00, which some speaker cables do cost at. :eek:

For those of you who have tried Monster products, and are disappointed by them, I want to say that you can't just pick any Monster products and expect to be satisfied with them for a sake of buying Monster products, because not all of their products are nice; in this case, you are becoming just a victim of their marketing tactic, and are discouraged to try their better products. Choose only high-quality ones wisely, if you are expecting more out of them!

ben62670

Well this took all of two seconds.
http://www.listenup.com/AUDIOQUEST+Type+4+(1+Foot)-p-Type41Foot-p-468430.html
Add terminals, and you just kicked M's A$$.

Again what other wires have you compared them to? What equipment have you tried them with?

Rock on:rolleyes:

Edit: Do you work for M, or one of there retailers?
If you are anywhere near by you are welcome to bring M with you, and do a comparo.

be83663

ben62670 wrote: »

Well this took all of two seconds.
http://www.listenup.com/AUDIOQUEST+Type+4+(1+Foot)-p-Type41Foot-p-468430.html
Add terminals, and you just kicked M's A$$.

Rock on:rolleyes:

Edit: Do you work for M, or one of there retailers?
If you are anywhere near by you are welcome to bring M with you, and do a comparo.

I have not used any other cables of Monster Z2 Reference cable price range.

I checked again audioquest cables for the length I need, 15 ft, and is about $200 per pair of 15 ft. compared to $100 that I got for a pair of Monster Z2 cables. http://www.abt.com/product/17331.html?source=froogle

And I am not associated with Monster company. Thanks for your information about Audioquest though; I must admit that they look like good speaker cables.