Quantum of Solace

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2008
    The Bond franchise lost it's value when Roger Moore entered the picture.

    I'd take a reality grounded Bond over a grossly cartoon based Bond anyday. If you like that period of Bond movies, you probably wear mittens in the summer, so you don't gouge your eyes out.

    Bond jumped the shark when he ran across alligators to escape in Live and Let Die. Moonraker? Etc etc....Are you kidding me? Garbage and I'm suprised the franchise lasted this long.

    DC was the best thing to happen since Connery.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited November 2008
    DC was the best thing to happen since Connery.

    Amen!
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2008
    you are all so smart..........amazing

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2008
    I got into the Bond series BECAUSE of Roger Moore Mark. The movies were just straight out fun & Roger was great to drool over!

    Once they replaced him & I had a few more years under my belt I started to wish for more of a storyline & less explosions & wiz bang technology. The last Bond with Pierce Brosnan was so unbelievable it was a joke.

    Even he knew it & had the guts to say so, and they fired him for it.

    The franchise should thank him for telling the truth since they brought back a more traditional storyline & had a big hit with CR.

    CR was OUTSTANDING and has me eagerly looking forward to seeing this one.

    dorokusai wrote: »
    The Bond franchise lost it's value when Roger Moore entered the picture.

    I'd take a reality grounded Bond over a grossly cartoon based Bond anyday. If you like that period of Bond movies, you probably wear mittens in the summer, so you don't gouge your eyes out.

    Bond jumped the shark when he ran across alligators to escape in Live and Let Die. Moonraker? Etc etc....Are you kidding me? Garbage and I'm suprised the franchise lasted this long.

    DC was the best thing to happen since Connery.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited November 2008
    Daniel Craig is the best Bond yet.

    Quantum was okay. Casino was much better.
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2008
    cfrizz wrote: »
    The last Bond with Pierce Brosnan was so unbelievable it was a joke.

    Even he knew it & had the guts to say so, and they fired him for it.

    You should watch The Tailor of Panama where Pierce does a 180 on the whole spy genre and he's funny as an assassin who lossed his nerves in The Matador although the movie as a whole is a bit slow.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2008
    I didn't mean that Pierce was unbelievable as Bond, I meant the storyline & stunts were stupid. Pierce was ok as Bond.

    fatchowmein wrote: »
    You should watch The Tailor of Panama where Pierce does a 180 on the whole spy genre and he's funny as an assassin who lossed his nerves in The Matador although the movie as a whole is a bit slow.
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2008
    cfrizz wrote: »
    I didn't mean that Pierce was unbelievable as Bond, I meant the storyline & stunts were stupid. Pierce was ok as Bond.

    Oh, I know. I agree he was okay and that the series had gotten silly with the invisible car and yet another laser from space. To me, the two movies I mentioned was Pierce's way of giving MGM the middle finger.
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  • Logic 7
    Logic 7 Posts: 127
    edited December 2008
    I read somewhere where some one said that Die Anther Day started off as one of the best Bond's and ended as the worst. I'd say that was pretty accurate. I definitely liked Craig in Casino Royale much more than Quantam Of Silence. Im not really sure how I feel about the sequel/ part 2 thing
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  • timlitton
    timlitton Posts: 289
    edited March 2009
    Top 10 Bonds:

    #1. Sean Connery
    #2. Pierce Brosnan
    #3. Daniel Craig (time will tell if he moves up or down)
    #4. Sean Connery
    #5. Sean Connery
    #6. Timothy Dalton
    #7. George Lazenby
    #8. Sean Connery
    #9. Barry Nelson
    #10. David Niven

    Honorable mention: Roger Moore
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited March 2009
    I'm very excited for this coming Tuesday, this and The Matrix, WooooHooooo!!!
    If...
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2009
    LOL, I take it you like Sean Connery Tim.

    WTH is Barry Nelson????

    Is it FINALLY going to be released on DVD? I am beyond tired of waiting for it!
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  • shepx2
    shepx2 Posts: 646
    edited March 2009
    timlitton wrote: »
    Top 10 Bonds:

    #1. Sean Connery
    #2. Pierce Brosnan
    #3. Daniel Craig (time will tell if he moves up or down)
    #4. Sean Connery
    #5. Sean Connery
    #6. Timothy Dalton
    #7. George Lazenby
    #8. Sean Connery
    #9. Barry Nelson
    #10. David Niven

    Honorable mention: Roger Moore


    The fact that your rate Brosnan higher than Craig makes me wonder if you are only visiting our planet??? :confused:
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited March 2009
    I can't honestly compare Daniel Craig to any other Bond. He's a very different Bond in very different Bond films, they pretty much stand on there own.

    All the Bond films before Casino Royal were campy and goofy, Casino Royal and Daniel Craig took the role in a very different, real world direction.
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  • wz2p7j
    wz2p7j Posts: 840
    edited March 2009
    I'm pretty easy to get along with movie wise. But I hated Casino Royal. Maybe cuz I'm not a gambler and not a card player but, in any event, to me, CR was a total snooze. I'm hoping QS is a much better movie. Chris
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  • dholmes
    dholmes Posts: 1,136
    edited March 2009
    My nuts ache everytime I watch Casino Royal!!!
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited March 2009
    cant wait get my copy tuesday. i love 007 no matter who is james bond.

    I prefer Roger Moore as Bond. I dont think peirce bronsan was a bad bond, i actually liked him
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    Available March 24th dear. Not gloating, but I already got my copy. You're more than welcome to come over and watch it. :)

    Some Bond movies were better than others. All the actors that portrayed Bond gave the 007 character his own unique signature, but all the JB characters are great. There's not one James Bond movie I didn't like. That's just me though. No doubt that Daniel Craig is different. I predict him to do good things for the series and continue to thrill 007 fans.

    James Bond will return...;)

    Edit: Who is Barry Nelson? Here ya go Cathy...Wow! I didn't even know that. :o

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    Thank you Mike. That explains why I never heard of him. Came & went before I was even born.:D God he doesn't fit the mold at all!:eek:
    dholmes wrote: »
    My nuts ache everytime I watch Casino Royal!!!

    DH! I just spit water all over my monitor. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.:eek::D:D
    CaligulaPolk wrote: »
    cant wait get my copy tuesday. i love 007 no matter who is james bond.

    I prefer Roger Moore as Bond. I dont think peirce bronsan was a bad bond, i actually liked him

    My preference order is as follows. Roger Moore, Sean Connery, Daniel Craig, Peirce Brosnan.

    As was pointed out, each brought their own unique interpretation to the role & all could only do so much with some of the garbage scripts they were given.

    I mostly go to be entertained for a couple of hours. Although I can only suspend my disbelief but so far.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited March 2009
    1. Roger Moore
    2. Daniel Craig
    3. Peirce Brosnan
    4. Timothy Dalton
    5. Sean Connery
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  • timlitton
    timlitton Posts: 289
    edited March 2009
    cfrizz wrote: »
    LOL, I take it you like Sean Connery Tim.

    WTH is Barry Nelson????

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    shepx2 wrote: »
    The fact that your rate Brosnan higher than Craig makes me wonder if you are only visiting our planet??? :confused:

    I'm just visiting. Obviously, with my opinion of Brosnan.
    Keiko wrote: »
    Edit: Who is Barry Nelson? Here ya go Cathy...Wow! I didn't even know that. :o

    http://www.jamesbondwiki.com/page/Barry+Nelson?t=anon

    Thank you Keiko. I didn't know it either, until a couple of weeks ago. Jimmy, Jimmy Bond? That doesn't sound right.

    On a side note, you know who I thought would have made a good James Bond? Clive Owen. He was considered for the part but obviously it went to Daniel Craig.

    Owen played "The Driver" in a series of short films from BMW. They were pretty close to 10 minute Transporter movies (before the Transporter came out) and he kicked ****. If you can find the one by Guy Ritchie with Madonna in it, or the one with James Brown, Gary Oldman and Marilyn Manson, watch them. The whole series is great. They got me thinking Owen would make a great Bond... and this was still during Brosnan's stint.

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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited March 2009
    I've got all the Bond movies...I can safely say that Daniel Craig is the worst Bond of all time. IMO. He sucks in every possible way, and is the most boring, lifeless, uncharismatic Bond ever.

    1.Sean Connery
    2.Roger Moore
    3.Pierce Brosnan
    4.Timothy Dalton
    5. George Lazenby
    6.n/a
    7.n/a
    8.n/a
    9.n/a
    10.Daniel Craig. He sucks that much. He's ruined the Bond franchise IMO, and I can't wait until he get's replaced.

    Casino Royale was one of the most boring movies I've seen in a long time...and I'm a huge Bond fan. Quantum of Solace was..."better"...but still really lacked compared to the older Bond flicks.
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  • dubradio
    dubradio Posts: 181
    edited March 2009
    The thing that many dont understand is that they didnt intend for the new bond (daniel craig) to "compete" with the other bonds. Each has his own persona that brings a unique and interesting twist to the franchise. Its similar in a way to the batman franchise, as some were dark/cartoony/sinicle/depressing.

    I dont really like to compare the Bond actors because each was able to draw me into the movie a differant way, Connery with his quick wit and "old charm" . Dalton and Moore with their ability to personify the "english gentleman" , Brosnan for his "ladies man" and "wit" , and Craig for his "brute passion" .
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited March 2009
    Watch it last night. yawn. I like Roger Moore most, Sean Connery second, and Pierce, third. And those Bond girls back in the days are much better than today's Bond.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited March 2009
    Also watched this one last night. Boring, boring, boring. Yes, some action, but action is not all I expect from a 007 movie.
    My feeling is that they made this one in a hurry just to put something out.
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited March 2009
    I agree that QoS wasn't nearly as good as Casino Royale. But, this newest generation is much better than the crap they were throwing out there at the end of Pierce's reign.

    My Bond exposure started with the Roger Moore generation so he's at the top of my list. I think people that grew up watching Connery's Bond movies first prefer him and hate Moore. Really depends what you were first exposed to and what got you into Bond. Everyone should agree that Tim Dalton and the storylines he was working with were the worse in the Bond series.

    Too much action for the sake of action in Quantum, not plot, not enough humping hotties not enough one-liners / puns, etc.

    A watchable action flick, but not a classic Bond flick, IMO.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2009
    I watched the BD of QoS last night. I agree that with the Pierce and Dalton generation of the series weren't very good. I grew up with the Connery generation of the series, and of course think those were the best, however I don't have any issues with the Moore generation of the series either. Overall I liked QoS and hopefully it is the start of a new generation of the series that just keeps getting better.
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  • timlitton
    timlitton Posts: 289
    edited March 2009
    I think one reason Brosnan rates so high for me is hours upon hours of Goldeneye64. I spent a good amount of my college time BONDing with my buds playing this game and quietly growing attached to Brosnan as 007. Well, to be totally honest, I was actually shooting the $h!t out of them.

    Damn I loved that game.
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited March 2009
    GoldenEye on the 64 COMPLETELY dominated my college years. One shot kills with the autos in the facility...
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  • Hoopnoop
    Hoopnoop Posts: 20
    edited March 2009
    Saw QOS last night -- excellent PQ and SQ. I think it is a reference quality blu-ray. I actually liked it better than Casino Royale.
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited March 2009
    Totally agree with the GoldenEye N64 comments; one of the best games ever. Played all the time in HS and college (until Halo came out and we would have 4 on 4 capture the flag matches mostly on Blood Gulch until 6am so nights).

    I actually got together and played some N64 4 player the other day. Still a blast if you are drinking and not overly concerned with graphics.
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