which is better, epik conquest or danley dts-20

SlowcarIX

which is a more capable sub:

http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/C2.pdf

vs.

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/pdf/Danley%20DTS-20%20Spec%20Sheet_r3.pdf

Ron Temple

I'm thinking you need to pair the Danley with some Growlers . Seriously, the Danley probably has a bit more SPL, but once you get to this level of bass, the tradeoffs in capability are very subjective. Unless you have a room that can handle 125dbs + of course.

SlowcarIX

there is one FS in austin....:eek:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=5233

i should check it out

SlowcarIX

Ron Temple wrote: »

I'm thinking you need to pair the Danley with some Growlers . Seriously, the Danley probably has a bit more SPL, but once you get to this level of bass, the tradeoffs in capability are very subjective. Unless you have a room that can handle 125dbs + of course.

going to check it out tomorrow morning...if all goes well, i can regain the use of the front door...the dts-20 has a 18"x20" footprint

SlowcarIX

lets see which one stays...

Face

You have officially lost your mind, lol!

SlowcarIX

Face wrote: »

You have officially lost your mind, lol!

there is really no better way of testing it out than in your own listening room...

hey check out this pic

Face

True about testing them out in your own listening room. I just feel bad for the foundation of your house.

LOL @ the amp picture. Crap, I'll have to think of another name when I start up my own business.

Sherardp

that is fooking insane. I must say, I like the way you think though. A guy who loves toys is definitely a pal of mine. Whats next? The only thing to throw at you is a sealed dedicated theater room with a projector.

SlowcarIX

Face wrote: »

True about testing them out in your own listening room. I just feel bad for the foundation of your house.

LOL @ the amp picture. Crap, I'll have to think of another name when I start up my own business.

the house was built in 2006, its still settling and there are cracks around ceiling/walls...some bass hopefully will settle it quicker so i can patch up the cracks once and for all

SlowcarIX

Sherardp wrote: »

that is fooking insane. I must say, I like the way you think though. A guy who loves toys is definitely a pal of mine. Whats next? The only thing to throw at you is a sealed dedicated theater room with a projector.

next...i got to decide which sub to keep

MKZ

keep both ..

speakergeek

The Conquest didn't last long...Are you going to sell it?

Early B.

My money is on the Conquest, although the Danley looks mighty menacing.

I think the Danley would work better if you laid it horizontally underneath your TV.

speakergeek

Isn't Danley a pro- audio sub? I thought that stuff was more for out doors (concerts).

McLoki

speakergeek wrote: »

Isn't Danley a pro- audio sub? I thought that stuff was more for out doors (concerts).

Google is your friend....

Based on the first bulleted use, I think his home theater room should / would qualify as a house of worship....

Ron Temple

I know Rich a little bit. We talk once in awhile. He told me recently that he was seriously downsizing, so I guess you got his Danley. Congrats. He also had an eD A7-900 and Conquest that he sold to another TX local not that long ago. I thought he had a pair of Growlers hooked up with the Danley, but I might be confusing him with another basshead.

I imagine, there's some seriously tactile impact with that sucker.

Ron Temple

Heh, Rich sent me a couple of PMs this morning. He's subless now and ordered an Ultra for his upstairs (smaller) HT room. Coinkydink :eek:

SlowcarIX

MKZ wrote: »

keep both ..

lol...each of them is capable of taking out windows, so 1 is good enuff

SlowcarIX

speakergeek wrote: »

The Conquest didn't last long...Are you going to sell it?

i'm like the dts-20 more so far...i think conquest will go to new home......

SlowcarIX

Early B. wrote: »

My money is on the Conquest, although the Danley looks mighty menacing.

I think the Danley would work better if you laid it horizontally underneath your TV.

when compared w/ the conquest, the danley is able to resolve midbass slightly better - i use the rebecca pigeons spanish harlem. the bass from the danley seems quicker, more accurate...maybe no as deep

i need to go from free standing tv/component stand to wall mounted to put sub under tv. but i dont know if the dry wall can take the weight of the cdp, 2 amps, powersupply and the bits and pieces - those weigh close to 200lbs. vibrations from the walls during those deep bass notes will be an issue if the shelf is wall mounted...cdp and bluray play will skip!...

SlowcarIX

speakergeek wrote: »

Isn't Danley a pro- audio sub? I thought that stuff was more for out doors (concerts).

i think it is....the attention to construction details is not as good as the conquest

SlowcarIX

Ron Temple wrote: »

I know Rich a little bit. We talk once in awhile. He told me recently that he was seriously downsizing, so I guess you got his Danley. Congrats. He also had an eD A7-900 and Conquest that he sold to another TX local not that long ago. I thought he had a pair of Growlers hooked up with the Danley, but I might be confusing him with another basshead.

I imagine, there's some seriously tactile impact with that sucker.

yep, i stole the dts-20/amp combo from rich. the danley was in perfect condition and the amp..., still smells new! he was nice to give me a very nice interconnect and speaker cable too

one thing i found out about the dts-20 is the bass energy from the 2 square bass ports can be very directional. i aimed it parallel to the wall behind the tv and it was causing the tv screen to flex during heavy bass and making noise. so i just turned it to aim at the listening position and it feels good even when the buttkicker is off and no more screen noise

SlowcarIX

Ron Temple wrote: »

Heh, Rich sent me a couple of PMs this morning. He's subless now and ordered an Ultra for his upstairs (smaller) HT room. Coinkydink :eek:

:eek: more sub?? i need he needs a buttkicker too

i invited him to come over to audition my setup when he has time

actually, a svs cylinder sub upstairs of his house will be nice. i heard sami's cylinder sub on his upstairs ht room, the bass causes the wooden floor to move - feels so much better than buttkicker under a couch.

JDOGG

That is an insane subwoofer:eek:

Early B.

Yo, Slow -- did you decide which sub you were gonna keep yet?

speakergeek

What's the verdict? Which one is best?

SlowcarIX

i think i'm going to keep the danley....i've been in orlando since monday, will go back and play with it a little more and then decide

what i like about the danley so far...

-small foot print, so i can use the front door again
-i can aim "shockwaves" from the 2 ports at me and that i notice causes less rattling in the room (wall, dlp screen, blinds....) yet still feel the same bass
-midbass is cleaner/more detailed for 2ch

Gaara

SlowcarIX wrote: »

-i can aim "shockwaves" from the 2 ports at me and that i notice causes less rattling in the room (wall, dlp screen, blinds....) yet still feel the same bass

Ever tried decoupling? Get yourself a gramma, should take care of a lot of those rattles.

speakergeek

I would equate the rattling with more subsonic bass.

SlowcarIX

Gaara wrote: »

Ever tried decoupling? Get yourself a gramma, should take care of a lot of those rattles.

yep, both the conquest and the dts-20 - double stack of silicone rubber, harder layer (consistency of M+S tire) on floor side and softer layer (consistency slightly softer than r-compound tire) on sub side



the rattles come from the compression/rarefaction waves causing stuff to resonate...not from sub cabinet coupling to the ground