QUICK!Handy Guys, I Need Some Help.

wingnut4772

My (for the lack of a better word I'll call him Painter :mad:) is almost done with my room but I have a problem. The wall where he pulled down cabinets had some drywall damage from the tear down. So he did a little joint compound action to smooth out the divots. BUT now when the wall is painted these compunded spots are flat where I need them to have the same sheen as the rest of the wall. It's so important because a ton of light will be focused on this wall. What can I ( meaning He) do to get the sheen consistent?


(You can see the flat spots in the photo near the picture on the right (inside) and a couple of other spots.)

bikezappa

I have matched the texture of the wall with joint compound and a wet sponge.

apply joint compound, ley dry a little and apply sponge and pull it directly away from wall do this until it matches the texture of the original wall.

let dry and paint

strider

+1 to above. It may take a couple of attempts to match it well, but definitely your best option.

amulford

I hate when that happens, but it always does. You have sand those spots baby **** smooth then proceed to scuff the entire wall with a rough sand paper, like 60 grit, VERY well. Then you have to start all over with the finish, ie a good primer and al least 2 finish coats. Tint the primer and the finish coats will cover quicker.

Good luck...

wingnut4772

Crap. This needs to be finished today. I don't have time to do the whole wall. Do you really think some more compound and the sponge will work?

ND13

Cover it up with a HUGE Ace Frehley poster,.....the one with his smoking space boots.:D:D:p

Rivrrat

Are you talking the texture or the paint?

If it's texture, it'll need to be texture matched. If the paint has flatter gloss spots where the now patches are, the patches will need to be primed, something a painter should've known.

I learned about priming sheetrock and joint compound the hard way. :rolleyes:

wingnut4772

ND13 wrote: »

Cover it up with a HUGE Ace Frehley poster,.....the one with his smoking space boots.:D:D:p

Wow! Problem solved! Thanks!:D Actually, the art will end up covering a big portion BUT..not enough. I may have to go larger with the art work. Here's my alternative. I had counted them out because the scale was too large but....

Keep in mind they are just sitting on the bed for an idea, not hung yet.

Rivrrat

Looking at the pic, I'd say the patches need to be redone, sanded and then primed.


My wife threw some contractors doing insurance work out of our house for simillar issues.

wingnut4772

Rivrrat wrote: »

Are you talking the texture or the paint?

If it's texture, it'll need to be texture matched. If the paint has flatter gloss spots where the now patches are, the patches will need to be primed, something a painter should've known.

I learned about priming sheetrock and joint compound the hard way. :rolleyes:

Texture. It was all painted new with this color. I thought that it was just that the compound was absorbing the paint differently or something.....

TroyD

Yeah, suck it up and do it right......I'd rather take the extra time and have it done right than get a nasty surprise when I eventually moved the pictures.

BDT

amulford

Darla, the underlying coats of paint have a different surface finish than the cover. The paint develops a shell. Unless you do the whole wall, you will still have the same problem.

As far as it getting done today, it can be done, it'll just be a long day. Sorry ,but it B's like that sometimes...

wingnut4772

My 'painter' just showed up and said it just needed another coat. I called my real painter (who was unavailable over the weekend) and he said he would try to come by tomorrow to fix it.

janmike

Good luck Darla. Hope things work out.

Early B.

Wing --

Paying these painters to do it right is eating into your profit, huh?

It's tough to rely on other "professionals" when your business and image are on the line.

It's a hard lesson, but if you're gonna take on small jobs like this one, you gotta do all of the work yourself.

demaples

wingnut4772 wrote: »

My 'painter' just showed up and said it just needed another coat. I called my real painter (who was unavailable over the weekend) and he said he would try to come by tomorrow to fix it.

Hey there, another way to fix it is go to your local Home Depot or Lowes, go to the paint section and either ask or look for "spray on texture". It comes with several tips for different textures.
Dennis

bikezappa

wingnut4772 wrote: »

Crap. This needs to be finished today. I don't have time to so the whole wall. Do you really think some more compound and the sponge will work?

yes i have done it successfully. you need to feather it. also the dark coat will show up any defects much more.

it's trail and error

billbillw

Sounds like the underlying problem was that the painters did not put a coat of primer on top of the joint compound. I've seen this many times. The joint compound is much more porous than the normal sheet rock and it drys out the paint faster.

I always put a coat of Zinwell primer on the spackle/ joint compound before painting. You will almost always need 2 coats of paint on top of the primer, but it eventually has the same texture.

Rivrrat

wingnut4772 wrote: »

Texture. It was all painted new with this color. I thought that it was just that the compound was absorbing the paint differently or something.....

That could be, and if it is, the patch spots will need to be primed.

wingnut4772

Early B. wrote: »

Wing --

Paying these painters to do it right is eating into your profit, huh?

It's tough to rely on other "professionals" when your business and image are on the line.

It's a hard lesson, but if you're gonna take on small jobs like this one, you gotta do all of the work yourself.

Unfortunately, there is no profit. I am doing it as a favor for the friend who has let me stay with her.

wingnut4772

I called the 'painter' again and he says he swears he will fix it so we will see. Anyway, I hope the real deal can come go over his mistakes.

Jstas

I think you need one of these.



Not only will it take care of that wall, it'll adjust the attitude of your 'painter' too! Like Alton Brown says, it's a multi-tasker!

HIWAFH!

wingnut4772

I told him to pick up some 'Killz' primer and he insisted he didn't need it and he would fix it. I just went back there to see what he had done and it's horible. A drippy mess. What an ****.

Jstas

wingnut4772 wrote: »

I told him to pick up some 'Killz' primer and he insisted he didn't need it and he would fix it. I just went back there to see what he had done and it's horible. A drippy mess. What an ****.

Maybe you didn't see my post?

Here it is again, just to be sure.

Jstas wrote: »

I think you need one of these.



Not only will it take care of that wall, it'll adjust the attitude of your 'painter' too! Like Alton Brown says, it's a multi-tasker!

HIWAFH!

It does wonders for motivation.

wingnut4772

Jstas wrote: »

Maybe you didn't see my post?

Here it is again, just to be sure.





It does wonders for motivation.

Well if he wants to get paid he will do it right. The problem is I don't think he's capable. I will find out how much my guy will charge to fix it and deduct it.

Here is his updated attempt at 'fixing it'.

Jstas

He just smeared more paint on!

We Todd Did.

wingnut4772

Jstas wrote: »

He just smeared more paint on!

We Todd Did.

Exactly. I just called him and told him it was horrible and to use primer. So if he primes and repaints the whole wall it should be fixed then?

Jstas

wingnut4772 wrote: »

Exactly. I just called him and told him it was horrible and to use primer. So if he primes and repaints the whole wall it should be fixed then?

Like what was already said, those compounded spots gotta be sanded smooth and as level with the surrounding wall as possible. Then it's gotta get roughed up a bit so the paint will stick. Otherwise, the giant smooth spots are going to reflect the light differently and on a dark wall like that, they will stand out.

Honestly if it was me, I wouldn't have used joint compound unless there was a hole in the wall. If it was just some missing paper, I would have oversprayed with a sandable primer, blocked it down and then done the whole wall in primer and then two color coats.

demaples

Wow, that is a horrible job. Not sure if he knows how to fix it from the looks of that.

wingnut4772

Jstas wrote: »

Like what was already said, those compounded spots gotta be sanded smooth and as level with the surrounding wall as possible. Then it's gotta get roughed up a bit so the paint will stick. Otherwise, the giant smooth spots are going to reflect the light differently and on a dark wall like that, they will stand out.

Honestly if it was me, I wouldn't have used joint compound unless there was a hole in the wall. If it was just some missing paper, I would have oversprayed with a sandable primer, blocked it down and then done the whole wall in primer and then two color coats.

Well what are you waiting for? Get over here!:D

Jstas

wingnut4772 wrote: »

Well what are you waiting for? Get over here!:D

I should. It's probably cooler in Miami right now.

My poor black truck is melting in the parking lot!