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    • Posts: 231
      edited January 2003
      ...is an oversight on your part.

      Originally posted by weavercr

      By way of further explanation, I provide this copy of a post on
      AC power cords I have made before:



      Unless you are Jon Risch, you really should make sure to credit him. Jon has put a lot of effort into his website - he's a good guy and deserves the recognition.

      If you are Jon R., well, hi Jon, long time no talk.


      The Real Deal
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      edited January 2003
      :eek:

      Coincidence.
      Make it Funky! :)
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      edited January 2003
      Wow,
      Three pages on power cords! I'm surprised. All parts of the system are important. I'm happy to see consideration going to some of the less thought of parts. I'm wondering if power cords effect tubes more because of the higher supply voltages? SS equipment normally have +/- supplies of 35 to 70 volts. Tube equipment has -400 volt supplies for the grids and some other voltages. Just wondering if anyone has ideas about this?
      madmax
      Vinyl, the final frontier...

      Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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      edited January 2003
      //Side note to everyone else EXCEPT MM//

      Anyone else think he's either

      A. Full of ****, or
      B. Has the ears of a bat?

      This guy isn't an Audiophile, he's a tweak-o-phile through and through.

      Just hackin' on ya Chuck. ;)

      Cheers,
      Rooster
      Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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      edited January 2003
      Chuck, I hope you took that at face value, I'm jealous, if nothing more. Much respect amigo.

      Cheers,
      Rooster
      Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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    • Posts: 17,229
      edited January 2003
      Russ,
      Ever consider EXPERIENCE????O I forgot THEY didn't want you.

      You talk more TRASH then anyone I ever read.Looser.Ever consider adding to the eff in thead instead of cracking **** jokes?You are a Clown.
      Dan
      My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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      edited January 2003
      ...edited for content...
      Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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      edited January 2003
      I don't have hardly any experience with powercords.But I don't go around saying whatever,lets skip over it,can we move on,blah,blah,blah.
      I'd like to learn more about powercords and if they make an audio difference.Like the rest of the people on this thead digging into it.
      Not everyone on this forum feels like you do Russ.Some people like to read what I write/type.Even if I do misspell words.

      Russ I really think you need to go relax.Your so tense these days.
      Dan
      My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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      edited January 2003
      Click the button marked "profile". Click the menu item "Edit Ignore List". Click update.


      Ahhhh.

      There, that's better.
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    • Posts: 231
      edited January 2003
      Originally posted by RuSsMaN
      //Side note to everyone else EXCEPT MM//

      Anyone else think he's either

      A. Full of ****, or
      B. Has the ears of a bat?

      This guy isn't an Audiophile, he's a tweak-o-phile through and through.

      Just hackin' on ya Chuck. ;)

      Cheers,
      Rooster


      I'd probably go with (B) - Jon's been active in the industry for probably 30 years, and is currently designing product for Peavey. I'm guessing that his hearing is pretty good.

      Is he a tweak-o-phile? I think what he does is great: he comes up with DIY stuff that offers an alternative to commercially available products. Remember, even Polk started as a couple of guys working out of their garage to make better sound - IMO, that's the soul of this industry.

      Of course, keep in mind that I've been known to hang speaker cables from the ceiling, as they certainly sound better when they don't touch the floor.

      :D
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      edited January 2003
      Originally posted by rlw


      Of course, keep in mind that I've been known to hang speaker cables from the ceiling, as they certainly sound better when they don't touch the floor.

      :D

      I don't think I could get that 1 past the almighty WAF! ;)
      ***WAREMTAE***
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      edited January 2003
      I haven't tried hanging them from the ceiling yet but it sounds reasonable. I've heard that once cables are burned in, if they are moved around and vibrated that they will require another burn in. Read that somewhere.
      madmax
      Vinyl, the final frontier...

      Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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    • Posts: 545
      edited January 2003
      Originally posted by madmax001
      Many of the modules do not have a grounded input. Just the two blades. Maybe the ground would be too massive for the transmission?

      From a safety standpoint, it's not a necessity to have a dedicated ground wire within your 2 wire/blade plug. That's why if you look at most of the 2 pronged plugs, one is wider than the other to ensure that you have correctly inserted the plug into the recepticle. The wide blade is usually the "white" or neutral line (if memory serves me right). "Black" is usually hot. If you follow your "white" wire back to your breaker, you'll just noticed that all of them terminate on a common block. That block is then "grounded" with the common "ground" block, thus the white wire can be seen as a "ground" however to truely be labeled as a "ground" it must be on a dedicated circuit, thus the bare wire that is usually bundled in a 3 wire romex sheath. Most company's know that this is "official" NEC certifed wiring methods so the "white"/wide blade is usually internally grounded in the chasis of the AV equipment. Problem that comes to mind is whether or not the electrician wired your wall recepticles properly. (ie white to the white side and black to the black side).
      Damn....8 lines...I've gotta put my sig on a diet now....
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    • Posts: 3,049
      edited January 2003
      Originally posted by madmax001
      I've heard that once cables are burned in, if they are moved around and vibrated that they will require another burn in. Read that somewhere.
      madmax

      I've read that also. Can't say I've noticed it or believe it's that big of an issue.
      Make it Funky! :)
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    • Posts: 5,256
      edited January 2003
      Originally posted by mantis
      I don't have hardly any experience with powercords. I'd like to learn more about powercords and if they make an audio difference.

      Perfect time for ya is right now during your construction. I'd start with a good ground ring for your dedicated HT. I have a friend who I consider and "EXPERT" on grounding and follows our Forum and would be happy to help you.

      Also as Russ and a few others have mentioned you should consider Hospital grade outlets and make sure you run all 12 guage power lines.

      This should really accent your already owned power conditioner.

      Just my 2c

      HBomb
      ***WAREMTAE***
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    • Posts: 6,767
      edited January 2003
      Guys,
      to continue on the thread that I started off a while ago, I went ahead and order Signal Cable MagicPower cord from Frank (at $59 for 3ft, I can afford it and not loose sleep over the investment if it produces no difference). So, I got it a couple of days ago and hook it up. Remember that it hasn't go any burn in period (i.e. an immaculate virgin power cord :p ). Build quality is very good, thick, and robust. The cable is also pretty stiff (no Viagra involved..). Check out the signal cable web site for specification, if you are interested (www.signalcable.com)

      Off the bat, once I power on the rotel 1065, I noticed a profound improvement of bass and mid immediately. For the source I use the philips SACD-1000 and a redbook cd that I am very familiar with (Joe Sample - Sample This). I will spend more time listening to the system and let you know, but, at this point, I will tell you one thing, you can TELL the difference, having the stock power cord replaced with a different power cord of different build quality (or perhaps, lower gauges)
      I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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    • Posts: 7,532
      edited February 2007
      RuSsMaN wrote:
      Well after you upgrade your power cord, don't forget to upgrade the wall receptacle too.

      I'm on the fence on the power cord/receptacle upgrade, simply due to lack of experience with such upgrades. It does however lean toward the audio 'voodoo and doodoo' section for me.

      Cheers,
      Russ

      You should give them a try. ;)
      Never Forget
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    • Posts: 243
      edited February 2007
      OH NO! Now we have 2 old power cord threads resurected from the dead!

      Robert
      Robert
      zombie boy 2000 wrote:
      You are officially in the high-end of the deep-end of the top-end.

      Bonus Room Over Garage:
      Toshiba 27" CRT TV
      Digital Source: Sony DVP-NS3100ES
      DVR: Panasonic DMR-ES15
      Denon 3806 AV Receiver
      - L/R Preamp out to Parasound HCA-1200 Amp
      Polk RTi70's, CSi40 Center, RTi38 Side Surrounds, RTi38 Back Surrounds

      Living Room: (2ch only)
      TV: Sony KV20-FV12
      DVD Player: Sony DVP-NS715P
      Yamaha R9 Receiver Polk RTi38's
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    • Posts: 980
      edited February 2007
      HAHAHAAH upgrade the recptacle to a 100% pure copper OFC or buy the silver oxide model..... wait wait Im sure someone has some gold plated ones.. you also need to run stranded 4 gauge to your outlets and while your at it upgrade to the 50 amp plugs.......


      Sorry having fun with this
      :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

      Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center      ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
      Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables
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