So I think I may have to unload the Shanling...

amulford

Try cleaning it first. Then fix it. IF you do wanna off it, I want those Redbanks. You heard it here first...

Yashu

1. Audiophile card
2. I.Q. card

I guess being a music lover means I am not an audiophile? I have a low IQ because I am aware of more efficient ways of enjoying music?

I guess to be smart and to be an audiophile I must spend lots and lots of money to bend over backwards to, not only enjoy my music, but to also give up my fair use rights (and fund those that are taking them!) as well.

Well la di da... perhaps being an audiophile isn't what it's cracked up to be. I would rather use my brain to better, and more efficiently, enjoy music on my terms, and to be able to do it with all the quality and aesthetic of my minimalist ideals. I thought being an audiophile meant taking recorded music and extracting as much from it as possible, thereby getting closer to the performance. I didn't know it was only about lining the pockets of RIAA executives and becoming a technological zealot at the same time. Getting close to the original performance doesn't mean swapping discs and forcing artists to an 80 minute limit. Imagine if we went back in time and told the great composers that due to future limitations, their music was going to be chopped up into arbitrary slices of time, and that very few people were going to be able to hear some their works uninturrupted. How depressing.

You do realize that the support of the status quo is stifling the creativity of musicians everywhere, and that all you are doing is hurting you own desired ends in the process. That's ok though, luckily you are now in a small minority, and that the vast majority of audiophiles and music lovers (I am not talking about main stream here, but genuine audiophilia) are embracing these new technologies and paradigms hand in hand with the artists themselves, and ultimately, your quaint little notion of manufacturing a disc, distributing to stores everywhere, and having to drive to the store, buy the disc, drive home, or have said disc shipped to you via truck or plane, and then inserting the disc into your CD player only to have access to 80 minutes of music, is completely ubsurd when we have the ability to avoid all that unnecessary red tape and hoop jumping by simply, GASP! downloading the data and playing it back... or at least, being able to listen to your entire music collection without having to do it one tiny inefficient arbitrary slice at a time.

That is just media that isn't closed... for closed media like the SACD, the process from the recording itself to getting it into your hands is even more convoluted, as is the idea that you have to forfeit your right to fair use to gain access to the recording.

Call me an idealist, call me crazy, but I am smart, and I am an audiophile, whether any of you like it or not, I am a member of those ranks, and part of a steadily growing movement that can see right through the recording industry's scare tactics, and megabuck equipment manufacturers that seem to think that the harder they make it for us to enjoy our music, the more they can charge, or the competition between brands for the award of least features possible, which I wouldn't mind, as a minimalist, but being pushed as the *only* non blasphemous way to be an audiophile, is just plain ridiculous.

You can have my Audiophile and IQ card when you pry them out of my cold dead hands, which by the way, aren't going to spend a lifetime of swapping digital discs. If I am going to be relegated to disc swapping duty, it better be for vinyl.

And for god sakes... fix the Shanling, don't replace it... if swapping discs is your thing, it's a good little tubed CD player and probably sounds pretty good. I only brought up the idea of moving away from disc swapping because a broken CDP is as good a time as any to move towards a more efficient way of enjoying your music.

sucks2beme

Zero wrote: »

Treit - You are right in that convenience can lead to a compromise in sound. Vinyl lovers have been beating those drums for decades.

The same principal can be applied towards PC audio. Many people believe that attaining hard-drive nirvana is a process thats as simple as simple as: ripping your files to *flac via EAC, using generic playback freeware such as Foobar2k, and running ASIO out to an external DAC. Aside from the ripping process, most feel an every-day home PC can be converted into a hi-fi machine in just moments. I'm afraid its just not nearly that simple. I digress -

As for the Shanling. I'll keep my mouth shut on that player. Sid knows how I feel about that hunk of china-fi.

Actually, it is that simple. The question is, is it better?
It's good. Audiophile good? Not yet. SACD tops it hands down.
Vinyl is still in a league by its self. This is mostly due to a lot of
discontinued titles that are only available on vinyl, and may never be
out on any other media. And it sounds sooooo good. Due to
mishaps, and a nagging wife, I gave up on vinyl never to return to it.
Maybe some day the industry will find a way to digitize vinyl without
**** up the sound. Mp3? For me, never. Flac gets me about 90% there.

Back to subject. Just fix the damn thing. You can spend the down time
out cruising for chicks instead of holed up in your room.:D

danger boy

who says the Shanling is even broke? I still think it just needs cleaned. saving you from having to get it fixed or even selling it.

BlueMDPicker

amulford wrote: »

Try cleaning it first. Then fix it. IF you do wanna off it, I want those Redbanks. You heard it here first...

I think those are long gone, Anthony. There's another matched pair in my tube box if you ever want to try them.

BaggedLancer

I'm confused at this thread. Are you saying you need to unload the Shanling because you are too lazy to send it back? Or you have to unload it cause you don't have the money to have it fixed? Either way, you said you don't mind the sound of the Zune so I'd just send it back. Doesn't sound like you'll miss it if it takes 2 weeks or 2 months....

VR3

I dont really like to fix CD players, as generally they never act right again.

So I am reluctant to fix a CD player.

I can fix it, not an issue, just a matter of wanting to throw money into a device such as a CDP....

The Shanling has been working great lately though, so who knows.

Serendipity

I'm confused. Did you try a cleaning disc?

organ

Try cleaning the lens first like others have suggested. I've had to do this before due to the same problem with several cd players and the skipping stopped, until a couple years later when they needed another cleaning.

I don't like to use the cd/brush. Just use some canned compressed air.

amulford

BlueMDPicker wrote: »

I think those are long gone, Anthony. There's another matched pair in my tube box if you ever want to try them.

Try AND buy, Mike. I can't find ANY, ANYWHERE...

Shizelbs

Sid, just get it repaired. Or see if you can't find a Shanling dealer to send it into and trade up.

engtaz

Sid , what I don't want to see is the Shanling in 1 of your videos.:eek:


Good Luck,
engtaz

PS: has a get together for music and have a repair/cleaning party.