So I think I may have to unload the Shanling...

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    I would seriously look into the parts and their respective cost.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited March 2008
    Trey,

    I'm busting your onions, man.

    You are a stand up dude and I'd never think anything less. I (mean this) sincerely apologize that you didn't take my comment in anything but jest.

    Troy
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited March 2008
    Ill probally end up doing that.

    I just hate to send it off for a repair or whatever. I need to send my Candela to Klaus to get it fixed, but the stuff sounds so good I don't want to be without music, lol...

    *sigh*

    Apology accepted, I missed the smiley ;)
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited March 2008
    Better be without it in the short term than take it in the shorts on a sale.

    BDT
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2008
    dorokusai wrote: »
    You mean cleaning didn't work? I'm shocked.

    he didn't clean it.. yet... or ever. :eek:
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited March 2008
    I clean all my gear once a month, particularly the Shanling, it is quite the piece!

    You make a good point Troy, and it is a fantastic player, all the more reason to keep it! :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2008
    Just send it in for repair! If it's going to be a lengthy repair time, then pick up one of the Music Hall or Onix CDP's to hold you over. If you buy it used, you'll probably come close to getting all your money back when you resell it. I've got an older Integra 6 disk changer that works I'll send you for free to use while yours is out for repair!
    DKG999
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited March 2008
    I just hate to send it off for a repair or whatever. I need to send my Candela to Klaus to get it fixed, but the stuff sounds so good I don't want to be without music, lol...

    Welcome to the wonderful world of high fidelity.
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  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited March 2008
    I'll trade you an RCA changer just to lessen your burden. Hell, I'll trade you two of them and a cd to be named later.

    cubdog
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited March 2008
    If the motor spins even a tiny tiny tiny bit too slow it will cause a skip. The motor is extremely time sensitive in many players. Some players buffer data to RAM, but most don't, so if the motor is going out, skip central, also, yeah, could be a laser that needs cleaning or alignment.

    I don't think the Zune, even with lossless, is going to sound as good (or as good anyway), but if you had a separate DAC, you would have a jumping off point at which to try a great many things. It is hard to justify single disc CDPs in this day and age.

    I could also say that this is one of the reasons Chinese components don't yet instill complete confidence.
    the time to buy is when the economy is down. dont be a dumb ****.

    Yeah, and use a credit card! They don't give those generous limits for nothing. Consider a new house while you are at it too.:rolleyes:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited March 2008
    It is hard to justify single disc CDPs in this day and age.

    Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing could be further from the truth.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited March 2008
    Not knowing what CD 'drive' hardware is used in the Shanling, I'll nevertheless mention that skipping can also be caused by binding of the tracks on which the laser rides. A little white lithium grease can cure this problem.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,766
    edited March 2008
    http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product.asp?product_id=32-18255&catalog_name=MCMProducts
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited March 2008
    You need this:

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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited March 2008
    Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing could be further from the truth.

    Yeah... you have 500+ CDs, and you are telling me that the most efficient way of enjoying your music is by having to get up and swap CDs? Half the albums are ones where there might be only a few songs that you might enjoy, even if you enjoy the entire album, that is only 80 minutes of music max before having to change the CD. If you want to hear songs from several albums, you are either out of luck, or, you have to compile the songs on a computer, burn another disc, and then play it, in your single disc CD player. How quaint. Artists are forced to limit themselves based on the refusal to move forward from the 80 minute limit.

    Or... since cost per GB of drive space is so low, it would be smart to have lossless files sorted by album and artist, and then you can play anything you want, in any order you want, for as long as you want. Except... Sony and the other RIAA cohorts doesn't want you to have fair use rights, so you are stuck with the ancient model when it comes to the "modern" SACD, and have kept the adoption of digital music servers to us "hackers", when the technology is here to eliminate the need for a disc altogether, and with that, the entire concept and limits of the 80 minute album, the 4 minute pop song, and all the other archaic holdovers from a bygone era. The funny thing is, speaking of bygone eras, is that with all this advancement, the best digital format that these people can offer is no better than the LP. The LP has the upper hand, actually. In 2008, there are more LPs produced, bought, and sold, than SACD by many times over.

    I like the CD, I loved it when I was younger... I like the LP, I even like the *concept* of SACD, in it's DSD format, but there is absolutely no need to be stuck with having to change discs, or even handle them at all. It is not a very efficient way to enjoy music. We only did it in the past because it was the only way we had. Artists and music lovers alike, would be rewarded by not having to be bound by this weird backbone of the music industry.
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  • MGPK
    MGPK Posts: 88
    edited March 2008
    About 10 years ago I bought the Cambridge Audio CD4 CDP and it skipped out of the box. The retailer told me it was the CD's I was playing. Performed great with certain CD's but I knew there had to be a problem. Sent it in and turned out the laser lens assembly was out a few microns and was recalibrated and returned within a couple of weeks. Send yours in to get fixed.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited March 2008
    I like handling the disc. I like the cover art and the info/booklets printed inside. I like to get up to change the disc. I like to rifle thru my collection deciding what I want to hear next. I like to listen to one complete disc at a time. I can't stand shuffling a bunch of different songs, I can listen to FM/XM radio if I wanted that, I don't.

    When your computer crashes, tell me about lossless.

    With very few exceptions, my SACD/CD playback exceeds that of vinyl.

    Efficient way to enjoy music? WTF does efficiency have to do with enjoying music!?!

    Tom's right, you're no audiophile.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited March 2008
    F1nut wrote: »

    With very few exceptions, my SACD/CD playback exceeds that of vinyl.

    Do tell, do tell.:)
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited March 2008
    Get a Playstation 1. :)
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    I like handling the disc. I like the cover art and the info/booklets printed inside. I like to get up to change the disc. I like to rifle thru my collection deciding what I want to hear next. I like to listen to one complete disc at a time. I can't stand shuffling a bunch of different songs, I can listen to FM/XM radio if I wanted that, I don't.

    Damn straight.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited March 2008
    Midnite Mick wrote: »
    Do tell, do tell.:)
    He's a vampire. The only way he will tell is if you back him into a corner with garlic. Lots of it. ;)
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited March 2008
    Okay, I went back and read some of the posts...wow another thread gone ugly. I think the material aspect of cd's to me is lost as compared to the material aspect of vinyl. I don't get any romance from the handling of cd's as compared to a record....probably due to size of the packaging (dirty minds need not respond to that sentence).

    I do think that a music server can have its place but probably has a way to go. Although, the new Modwright one seems to be gathering quite the accolades. Sadly, it is probably the future...not just for music but movies as well.

    The argument that there are only a couple songs on an album worth listening to I think is a reflection of the type of music one listens to and the state of "pop" music today...once again sadly. I too prefer to listen to whole album/cd's as the package should be heard as an entire piece of work rather than just a listing of songs. That is part of the art. I think if you listen to real artists this does not apply.

    Mike

    PS. Still interested in details regarding your digital...and vinyl comparisons.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited March 2008
    Zero wrote: »
    The computer may have the sound potential; but it certainly ain't got da luv'.
    Or the sound. Convenience = compromise in sound.

    That's what my ears tell me.

    BTW, we were talking about skipping CD's on Trey's Shandling. I talked to him tonight and we will see what happens.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing could be further from the truth.

    :):D:D


    Yep
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2008
    Anyone want my opinion?:D
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited March 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    I like handling the disc. I like the cover art and the info/booklets printed inside. I like to get up to change the disc. I like to rifle thru my collection deciding what I want to hear next. I like to listen to one complete disc at a time. I can't stand shuffling a bunch of different songs, I can listen to FM/XM radio if I wanted that, I don't.

    When your computer crashes, tell me about lossless.

    With very few exceptions, my SACD/CD playback exceeds that of vinyl.

    Efficient way to enjoy music? WTF does efficiency have to do with enjoying music!?!

    Amen.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited March 2008
    PS. Still interested in details regarding your digital...and vinyl comparisons.

    Simple really. I've only heard two LP's in recent memory that impressed me as sounding better (read fuller, more alive) than same SACD/CD on my set up. One was SRV at The Analog Room in San Jose. The other was Led Zepplin 1 at Joe's house. Granted, they still had the tick/pop thing here and there, but they sounded better.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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    President of Club Polk

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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,766
    edited March 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Simple really. I've only heard two LP's in recent memory that impressed me as sounding better (read fuller, more alive) than same SACD/CD on my set up. One was SRV at The Analog Room in San Jose. The other was Led Zepplin 1 at Joe's house. Granted, they still had the tick/pop thing here and there, but they sounded better.

    At least one of them might be because Led Zeppelin has never released their material on SACD. What a shame.

    Seriously, SACD can sound every bit as good as the best vinyl, and usually at a fraction of the cost; however, the library of titles is seriously limited. That's why I'll hold on to my VPI until I'm in the grave (unless I upgrade at some point.)
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  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited March 2008
    venomclan wrote: »
    Get a Playstation 1. :)

    Over on Head-Fi I see just as many threads on the PS1 as our LSi threads. Seems like they both pop up every couple days now.

    Vr3, If you seriously don't want to repair this yourself and don't mind the Zune why not send the CDP in for repair and just use the Zune for the time being? See how you like the convenience and decreased sound quality, get used to it then when the Shanlig comes back see how much of a improvement it is, and then determine your next step.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2008
    Just ship it back already,,you'll get it back before Klaus returns your Candela:D
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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