Oh my, something magical has happened to my SDA's

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    bugzbunny wrote: »
    I agree; burn-in is real. I suspect at some point-in-time,though, that it becomes very subjective (after the physical/mechanical/electrical "burn-in"). I guess my curiosity was to figure out what happened at hour 360 or whatever that convinced the user that his components had achieved complete burn-in and that there would not be any more changes in the quality of the output that he was hearing. I think that it is a fairly rhetorical query in that every time we go to listen to our systems we do not go in as neutral observers, but with different viewpoints (moods, stresses, etc) and our feeling towards our systems changes based on that. One can try and discount these biases and evaluate system performance critically, but it is not too easy.

    Sorry to ramble on like that....

    I'm not sure if you are referring to my expience with my crossover burn-in. At around the 360 hour mark all aritifacts, screeching highs, bloated bass etc was gone and they literally snapped into focus. I did notice some improvements, very subtle, until the 400 hour mark but after that they seemed to be just right. I'm sure some improvement continued but I didn't hear it.
  • bugzbunny
    bugzbunny Posts: 55
    edited July 2010
    Ah, so. Yes, I was referring to your experience, but your explanation does satisfy. Good to get some physical evidence rather than some hand-waving explanations one gets in audiophile magazines.
    I'm not sure if you are referring to my expience with my crossover burn-in. At around the 360 hour mark all aritifacts, screeching highs, bloated bass etc was gone and they literally snapped into focus. I did notice some improvements, very subtle, until the 400 hour mark but after that they seemed to be just right. I'm sure some improvement continued but I didn't hear it.
  • bugzbunny
    bugzbunny Posts: 55
    edited July 2010
    That is funny. It reminds me of my cousins in India who tell me that I must be filthy rich since I live in the US which is the richest country in the world. Ergo, we all must be, right???
    F1nut wrote: »
    If you're living in Potomac, money should not be an issue.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    My Marantz SACD player was designed to be powered on 24/7.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    bugzbunny wrote: »
    Ah, so. Yes, I was referring to your experience, but your explanation does satisfy. Good to get some physical evidence rather than some hand-waving explanations one gets in audiophile magazines.

    BTW just for accuracy sakes I went to my copy book notes and it wasn't at 360 hours it was at 354 hours. Don't want to mislead! One thing to note though most people have reported 200 to 300 hours for the Sonicaps and Mills resistors to burn-in, why mine took longer is beyond me.

    One last note there is a Sonicap in the circuitry (and for the life of me I can't remember which) that only has limited frequencies applied to it. It takes this one a hell of lot longer than the ones that are experiencing the full frequency spectrum.
  • bugzbunny
    bugzbunny Posts: 55
    edited July 2010
    Ditto here. But there is a subtle difference between being just powered on vs actually playing music 24/7.
    Face wrote: »
    My Marantz SACD player was designed to be powered on 24/7.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    BTW just for accuracy sakes I went to my copy book notes and it wasn't at 360 hours it was at 354 hours. Don't want to mislead! One thing to note though most people have reported 200 to 300 hours for the Sonicaps and Mills resistors to burn-in, why mine took longer is beyond me.
    You're not applying enough current to them. :D

    If you want to go through a real wonky break in period, install a pair of Teflon caps in the signal path, ugg!
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • bugzbunny
    bugzbunny Posts: 55
    edited July 2010
    Was it the Gen1, Gen2 or the platinum Sonicap? I wonder if they have some coating on it which takes a while to come off or something like that?
    BTW just for accuracy sakes I went to my copy book notes and it wasn't at 360 hours it was at 354 hours. Don't want to mislead! One thing to note though most people have reported 200 to 300 hours for the Sonicaps and Mills resistors to burn-in, why mine took longer is beyond me.

    One last note there is a Sonicap in the circuitry (and for the life of me I can't remember which) that only has limited frequencies applied to it. It takes this one a hell of lot longer than the ones that are experiencing the full frequency spectrum.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    Face wrote: »
    You're not applying enough current to them. :D

    If you want to go through a real wonky break in period, install a pair of Teflon caps in the signal path, ugg!

    Mike help me out here I believe it is the cap associated with the bottom tweeter on the 1.2TL tweeter array. IIRC that is the tweeter with the lest amount of sound and the third from the top is the full spectrum tweeter. Which friggin cap is it. I'm going to look at the schematic and see if I can get a handle on it.

    YO! Ben, calling Ben . . . he was the one that informed about that cap taking longer to burn-in.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    bugzbunny wrote: »
    Was it the Gen1, Gen2 or the platinum Sonicap? I wonder if they have some coating on it which takes a while to come off or something like that?

    Geez bugz you are really working this old failing memory brain!!! LOL!!! I know it wasnt' the platinums but I don't recall whether they were Gen 1 or 2.

    I can probably dig up a receipt somewhere but I'm drawing a complete blank.

    Perhaps Jesse (F1nut remembers) he's not as old as me!:D