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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited January 2008
    beardog03 wrote: »
    where ?

    The SACD of "New York City" is basically out-of-print because it was pressed in very small quantities for the Taiwanese market. However, a member of the stevehoffman.tv website recently discover an e-tailer that may still have this title in stock. Go to the end of this thread.

    This SACD was discovered by me and you can read the whole story in the link. Please go to post #30 and #32 in the link and you read a post from the engineer who engineered the SACD (he also did the SACDs of The Kinks)....
    This EP has a long and winding story and more than its fair share of controversy since it was recorded before Ms. Jones received the phenomenal success that she rightly deserves. Other than to say that the project gives a rare glimpse into a chance musical encounter and offers very fine performances by Norah, Peter, and the band, I’ll confine my comments to the technical side of things. The recording did originate in a multi-track 16-bit/44.1k session tracked and mixed by Ducky Carlisle who is well versed in old-school analog gear and technique, and this is reflected in the warm, round sound of his work. As with audio in general, it’s the implementation and the skill of the engineer that determine the sound – not the format. I’ll try to explain what is different about the SACD. I had originally mastered this set for a Koch CD release. Some time later the order came in for an SACD master. Rather than upsample the CD version I suggested going back to the original mixes for slightly different approach and, to their credit, Koch agreed. The SACD is less peak-limited and uses a slightly warmer EQ. Conversion to DSD was done with softDSD which has its own euphonic character thanks to the mathematical genius of its creator Mariusz Pawlicki. I also find that DSD yields a better recovery on the consumer’s end than most PCM, even with lower-cost SACD players. Don’t ask me why, it’s just what I hear. Much of the bad rap on 16/44 is the fault of poorly implemented consumer DACs. With the SACD, more of the quality of the mix makes it to the end-listener’s ear, and this was a good sounding set of mixes. The CD layer of the High-Note SACD was derived from the new DSD master and it does retain some of the euphonic effect of the softDSD modulation. I made every effort to create an SACD master that would be of value to those who love the format and leave it up to the listener to decide if I was successful in that endeavor.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited January 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    She should have stuck with the blues, she sings them much better than she sings jazz. I'll second Danny on the New York City SACD.....simply excellent!


    Bear, I posted about the Mothership CD a month ago, where have you been bro? It's mastered hot and therefore is bright.



    I have been "out there" lately bro..!! (kan`t remember nothin cause my head is like a sive...dananunt dananunt dunt dunt da)

    maybe the V12 will tame it a bit......I hope

    hwere should i get the SCAD ?
    do they have it in HD or XRCD?

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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2008
    nikolas812 wrote:
    Misfortune???:confused::eek::confused:

    Well.... You like what you like.

    I listened to the first because everyone was gushing about how great it was. I thought it was just plain bad. The recording may have been good but the music....sucked IMO. Boring, repetetive, slow, boring. When the second came out and everyone was still gushing over BOTH albums...I thought maybe I didn't give it a chance and listened to the first again and the second. They still sucked IMO. There are very few artists that I simply can't stand. Nora Jones is one.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,746
    edited January 2008
    I don't know where you can get a New York City SACD copy these days, maybe eBay.

    My office rig couldn't tame it. Let me know if yours can.



    Geez Steve, tell us how you really feel.
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited January 2008
    shack wrote: »
    I listened to the first because everyone was gushing about how great it was. I thought it was just plain bad. The recording may have been good but the music....sucked IMO. Boring, repetetive, slow, boring. When the second came out and everyone was still gushing over BOTH albums...I thought maybe I didn't give it a chance and listened to the first again and the second. They still sucked IMO. There are very few artists that I simply can't stand. Nora Jones is one.

    That sounds like the way I feel/felt about Nirvana and any band remotely close to them. Boring stuff.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited January 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    I don't know where you can get a New York City SACD copy these days, maybe eBay.

    Follow the first link in my last post....CD Jungle's website states that the SACD is in stock and is ready to ship in 3-5 days.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2008
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    Exactly. And pretty. I am not a fuddy duddy music wise. I listen to Pearl Jam, White Stripes, Arcade Fire, Rage Against the Machine and NIN et al and I LOVE Norah. It's just a different gear.

    Wing --

    If you like Norah, you'll love Lizz Wright.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    Early B. wrote: »
    Wing --

    If you like Norah, you'll love Lizz Wright.

    I'm checking her out. Sounds good.
    http://www.lizzwright.net/
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited January 2008
    I love her new album. Pretty damn good quality on the production and mastering as well.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    phuz wrote: »
    I love her new album. Pretty damn good quality on the production and mastering as well.

    You mean Wright? It does sound very well recorded from the samples on her site.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited January 2008
    venomclan wrote: »
    The second song is a hoot and nice demo track, lots of stuff going on in the background and well recorded. Have fun.
    Venom

    My friend Walt is the one playing the trombone on Sinkin' Soon. Love the way his horn sounds on the disc, though if I'm being honest, I like Norah Jones' album with The Little Willies better than Not Too Late.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,746
    edited January 2008
    Ah yes, The Little Willes is excellent too.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    kuntasensei wrote: »
    My friend Walt is the one playing the trombone on Sinkin' Soon. Love the way his horn sounds on the disc, though if I'm being honest, I like Norah Jones' album with The Little Willies better than Not Too Late.

    Ooooo.Tell Walt Wingnut needs an autograph.:D:D:D
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2008
    F1nut wrote:
    Geez Steve, tell us how you really feel.

    I was TRYING to be tactful.....
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2008
    shack wrote: »
    I listened to the first because everyone was gushing about how great it was. I thought it was just plain bad. The recording may have been good but the music....sucked IMO. Boring, repetetive, slow, boring. When the second came out and everyone was still gushing over BOTH albums...I thought maybe I didn't give it a chance and listened to the first again and the second. They still sucked IMO. There are very few artists that I simply can't stand. Nora Jones is one.

    I didn't buy the second one, I believe that is the one with the red dress spread out. I remember a review Carl posted saying it was just okay. I lucked out and didn't fall into the same trap.:rolleyes:

    F1nut turned me on to some bluesy stuff she did and it was very good.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited January 2008
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    You mean Wright? It does sound very well recorded from the samples on her site.

    Nope... I was trying to stay on topic. ;)

    I'll check out wright though...
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    phuz wrote: »
    Nope... I was trying to stay on topic. ;)

    I'll check our wright though...

    Ahhhhhh I see. Interesting concept.:D
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited January 2008
    Thanks for all the input ...

    I will be getting the other CD`s, as well as looking into Lizz Wright..



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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited January 2008
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    The SACD of "New York City" is basically out-of-print because it was pressed in very small quantities for the Taiwanese market. However, a member of the stevehoffman.tv website recently discover an e-tailer that may still have this title in stock. Go to the end of this thread.

    This SACD was discovered by me and you can read the whole story in the link. Please go to post #30 and #32 in the link and you read a post from the engineer who engineered the SACD (he also did the SACDs of The Kinks)....

    Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

    Just ordered from CDJungle. Hopefully, it'll show up in a month. That's two I owe you, Danny! The other was Sarah Brightman's Eden on SACD.

    Thanks!
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited January 2008
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    Get it on SACD....see my review on sa-cd.net.

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    Sucker's been on my sa-cd.net wish list forever. :D

    Thanks again, Danny!
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited January 2008
    kuntasensei wrote: »
    My friend Walt is the one playing the trombone on Sinkin' Soon. Love the way his horn sounds on the disc, though if I'm being honest, I like Norah Jones' album with The Little Willies better than Not Too Late.

    Thats pretty cool.
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited January 2008
    I do like listening to Norah on occasion. I can't do more than a couple of CD's in a row, though...I have to spread them out. One CD I picked up I really like from reading about it in this or another forum is Patricia Barber. I picked up a "Live...A Fortnight in France" which I'm listening to again now. Pretty good stuff to listen to.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2008
    fatchowmein wrote: »
    Singers like Norah, Diana Krall, and Laura Fygi are enjoyable when mixed together. Listening to any one of them entirely for hours will put you to sleep or have you looking for a rope or razor blades unless you're a crazed fan like me - I can listen to Krall for days. :D

    Last night I fell asleep in the Shed listening to Meatloaf bash out Bat out of Hell at about 90 db. I fear the end is very near for me.......

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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited January 2008
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    Last night I fell asleep in the Shed listening to Meatloaf bash out Bat out of Hell at about 90 db. I fear the end is very near for me.......

    RT1

    You sure you weren't listening to Two Out of Three Ain't Bad? ;)
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  • ward91
    ward91 Posts: 338
    edited January 2008
    norah jones........ i think she has lost the power behind her voice in "not too late" compared to earlier albums.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2008
    I'd hit it.
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited January 2008
    Face wrote: »
    I'd hit it.

    I'll take sloppy seconds.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited January 2008
    ward91 wrote: »
    norah jones........ i think she has lost the power behind her voice in "not too late" compared to earlier albums.

    She's concentrating on making movies.
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  • ward91
    ward91 Posts: 338
    edited January 2008
    no further comment :-)
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2008
    Face wrote: »
    I'd hit it.

    Who? Meatloaf....damm

    RT1
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