Warner goes blu exclusive

margate21
margate21 Posts: 105
edited January 2008 in The Clubhouse
just saw a headline go by on reuters that says warner is going blu ray exclusive . i am very saddened!! guess i know what i am picking up after work... :(
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited January 2008
    I am very happy. My investment in a Blu-ray won't be for vain.
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  • bruss
    bruss Posts: 1,039
    edited January 2008
    wow.. glad i got the ps3
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited January 2008
    once the "bribe" from HD-DVD to Paramount and Dreamworks expires in nine months, I feel the format war will be over once and for all, then it will be time to invest. Sorry to all the fans of the losing side, but this is good news.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2008
    It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings, and she's still in the dressing room munching on a candy bar.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2008
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  • bruss
    bruss Posts: 1,039
    edited January 2008
    there have been some very good sales from both sides lately. I have been buying alot of both recently
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  • margate21
    margate21 Posts: 105
    edited January 2008
    anyone have a bestbuy coupon..
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited January 2008
    You guys are so hung up on one vs the other. Whatever happened to the benefits of competition. Sure I gotta buy 2 players, but if I consider the Toshiba to be the second player, then I'm only spending an extra $175 - not alot of money in the grand scheme of things is it?

    I like having both around, keeps the media prices competitive.

    While everyone else is griping and complaining and boycotting both formats, I'm buying up all the good deals on media I can find.

    Anyone remember what the prices on HD DVD media were like before BR became more accessible - ridiculous. You don't know Sony and the movie studio aren't going to do the same thing if BR wins? Say what you want, but if one or the other wins, you can kiss all those BOGO deals at Amazon goodbye.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited January 2008
    margate21 wrote: »
    anyone have a bestbuy coupon..
    ????
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  • jwhitakr
    jwhitakr Posts: 568
    edited January 2008
    Very interesting. Although in the article I read about this on Yahoo, Warner Bros. said they won't start released exclusively on Blu-Ray until May ... which means they have plenty of time to change their minds.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    You guys are so hung up on one vs the other. Whatever happened to the benefits of competition. Sure I gotta buy 2 players, but if I consider the Toshiba to be the second player, then I'm only spending an extra $175 - not alot of money in the grand scheme of things is it?

    I like having both around, keeps the media prices competitive.

    While everyone else is griping and complaining and boycotting both formats, I'm buying up all the good deals on media I can find.

    Anyone remember what the prices on HD DVD media were like before BR became more accessible - ridiculous. You don't know Sony and the movie studio aren't going to do the same thing if BR wins? Say what you want, but if one or the other wins, you can kiss all those BOGO deals at Amazon goodbye.

    +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    Lets see 1 HD player for $199 to watch for a year (currently own). Then once the war is over (which will probably be another year) 1 BR player for $199 ( by the time its over) if BR wins. Thats $399 for 2 players with both fomats at my finger tips...

    Rather than just sit there and have to hear about how great HD dvd's are. And never experiance HD because I have a problem with "the war".

    Fight on..and lets see the prices drop!!!!
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  • Texas42
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    edited January 2008
    I think he is referring to an 'online' internet coupon you can use at checkout...
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2008
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    You guys are so hung up on one vs the other. Whatever happened to the benefits of competition.

    This is why I will never understand these stupid assed threads. Competition is a good thing for the consumer, not a bad thing. I have Blu-Ray & HD DVD and I am like a pig in **** right now, especially with all the specials each side is offering trying to get a leg up on the other.

    Whatever format ultimately reigns surpreme means i'm out what, exactly? Nothing....HD is HD for the most part and any money invested in the players, which all happen to be connected through video game consoles, isn't in any way money lost.

    Going bat **** crazy buy the latest and greatest Blu-Ray & HD DVD players that are released? That is stupid, but most people enjoying HD Disc Media right now aren't doing that.
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  • izafar
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    edited January 2008
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    Anyone remember what the prices on HD DVD media were like before BR became more accessible - ridiculous. You don't know Sony and the movie studio aren't going to do the same thing if BR wins? Say what you want, but if one or the other wins, you can kiss all those BOGO deals at Amazon goodbye.

    HD format war was indeed a key factor in all the media deals, but the war is not over even if one format wins. Remember the biggest competitor to HD format is DVD itself. If they keep selling HD media at a much greater premium then masses will not switch to HD media. I think studios will keep the prices closer to DVDs so that people shift to HD media, the incentive for them is tighter copyright control in the HD media.
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  • margate21
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    edited January 2008
    Texas42 wrote: »
    I think he is referring to an 'online' internet coupon you can use at checkout...

    yes or instore..
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited January 2008
    Glad to see that I'm not the only one then...I was starting to think maybe I just didn't get it. I honestly hope that neither format wins - I like having both around.
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  • Demiurge
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    edited January 2008
    izafar wrote: »
    HD format war was indeed a key factor in all the media deals, but the war is not over even if one format wins. Remember the biggest competitor to HD format is DVD itself. If they keep selling HD media at a much greater premium then masses will not switch to HD media. I think studios will keep the prices closer to DVDs so that people shift to HD media, the incentive for them is tighter copyright control in the HD media.

    That will be a complete afterthought as more and more TVs are HD. Blu-Ray or HD DVD is going to be the standard. Not a single doubt about it. So it's not a matter of trying to compete with standard definition DVD so much as it's trying to compete between eachother and waiting for standard definition DVD to succumb to it's inevitable death.

    As far as copyright control, they still don't have that and I doubt they ever will. That's what they said about standard definition DVD, but ultimately they were cracked and burning DVDs has become as simple as copying VHS. HD formats will be no different over time.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited January 2008
    paramount's decision spurred many an hd dvd sale, but this admittedly will probably be a stronger blow to the opposition. but i'm not quite so sure this will be the death of hd dvd. too many hardware owners out there to be abandoned. too much money yet to be spent. we'll see...

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  • Early B.
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    edited January 2008
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    You guys are so hung up on one vs the other. Whatever happened to the benefits of competition. Sure I gotta buy 2 players, but if I consider the Toshiba to be the second player, then I'm only spending an extra $175 - not alot of money in the grand scheme of things is it?

    I like having both around, keeps the media prices competitive.

    While everyone else is griping and complaining and boycotting both formats, I'm buying up all the good deals on media I can find.

    This move by Warner is not likely to improve competition among the two formats. On the contrary, Warner probably chose Blu-ray because they make more money from it. And one way to keep making money from Blu-ray is to keep the prices of Blu-ray discs as high as possible. This could potentially extend the "war."
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  • Early B.
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    edited January 2008
    izafar wrote: »
    HD format war was indeed a key factor in all the media deals, but the war is not over even if one format wins. Remember the biggest competitor to HD format is DVD itself. If they keep selling HD media at a much greater premium then masses will not switch to HD media. I think studios will keep the prices closer to DVDs so that people shift to HD media, the incentive for them is tighter copyright control in the HD media.

    I'm guessing that media companies will force HD onto consumers. It's easy to do -- they can release HD-DVDs a couple weeks earlier than than the standard ones. Besides, a few HD-DVD players will in all likelihood eventually be $99 regular price at Walmart and elsewhere by the end of this year.
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited January 2008
    We are all winners in this war. Hope it continues.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited January 2008
    The benefit to an industry standard is not for all you people who want to watch movies at home. It's for us nerdy computer types working in vast, high availability computing environments where backup media density and reliability is extremely important. I want Blue-Ray to succeed. It is very much superior to HD-DVD for data storage in all ways. The home theater and movie market will just have the benefit of a standard. Besides, Blu-Ray has been in the works for over a decade now too and it has much more potential than HD-DVD in everything from the encoding algorithms to the hardware from a data storage standpoint. And if you think that the **** industry does high numbers, data storage has it all over the **** industry. My single department budgets 15,000-20,000 BLANK discs per year. This location runs through probably close to 1,000,000 blank discs for data storage a year. Corporation wide, the numbers get insane and there are thousands of other companies with similar needs investing hundreds of thousands of dollars in all kinds of optical media formats. Blu-Ray will actually save us money. HD-DVD may save us money but similar levels of support for data environments just aren't there. It may end up costing us more in the end because HD-DVD isn't as flexible.

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  • wingnut4772
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    edited January 2008
    Boo Hiss!!! I much prefer HD DVD.1.gif
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited January 2008
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    Boo Hiss!!! I much prefer HD DVD.1.gif

    agreed. well, if this ends up being the final blow, then i will still spend some coin and amass a rather large hd dvd collection. at a super-discount!

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    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • lanion
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    edited January 2008
    Hurrah! I can live happily with just a PS3 now. End the war before super-compressed HD digital distribution kills off both formats.
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  • wingnut4772
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    edited January 2008
    lanion wrote: »
    Hurrah! I can live happily with just a PS3 now. End the war before super-compressed HD digital distribution kills off both formats.

    And it will eventually. Everything will be data over servers.
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  • millerman 3732
    millerman 3732 Posts: 1,488
    edited January 2008
    These aren't my words just saw it over at AVS and it got me thinking.


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    This thread is 90% unserious, but I wonder if Walmart knew about Warner going blue ray and made a deal to dump HD-DVD players before the announcement.
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  • BIZILL
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    edited January 2008
    the mods shut that down quickly!

    anyway, i truely doubt it.

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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited January 2008
    Good points Jstas, and it would be nice to have a standard for your industry, but seems you guys could decide on that outside of the movie industry. If Blu Ray is better for storage, then all you IT types just need to all get together and set that as the standard...
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,846
    edited January 2008
    This effing blows! I was just about to get into HD-DVD, had a player on order, picked up a few movies from Amazon's BOGO sales, now this. The only reason BluRay has been doing better is because of the PlayStation3. Sadly, the PS3 is getting crushed in the gaming war compared to X-box 360 and Wii. So what's next, Sony cancels the PS3, leaving BluRay to flounder, HD-DVD dead by that point. Really sucks. I was hoping that more studios would publish in both formats (Disney has been rumored to have been contemplating this) and when the PS3 is cancelled, then HD-DVD would just take over. But now without Warner, I think the nail is in the coffin for HD-DVD.

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