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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2007
    I got the pioneer premier 880 installed also. The sound quality on this headunit is incredible and I thought my kenwood excelon deck sounded good. Not even close to this unit. I have one serious issue with this deck right now though. My alternator is whining like hell through my subwoofer. I have already cleaned the ground going to my amp and made sure it was a good ground. I guess where I screwed up was when I run the ground from the headunit through the factory harness. I'm going to try to ground the headunit to the frame somewhere and see if thats solves the problem. Pioneer needs to doing something about this ground issue.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2007
    Yup. Pioneer head units = noise. Maybe youll get lucky and itll be an easy fix.

    As for those baffles, I agree with Cody that MDF is the best BUT the plastic ones will work just fine if you slap some Dynamat on them. Thatll stiffen them up enough that there wont be any issues so long as youre not running 1000 watts to them.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    When installing a Pioneer HU you must make sure that the HU is not getting any power. You could blow the Pico fuse inside which then leads to a good amount of whine.

    MDF is the way to go for the mounts......
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2007
    Or you could just buy an Alpine head unit and youd be set. :p
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    telling it like it is...... :D
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2007
    Only advantage to an Alpine is the use of the H701:p
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2007
    My plastic baffles are pretty strong I siliconed the hell out of them to make sure they are strong and air tight. Blackmax what do you mean about installing the pioneer headunits. What I normally do is tie my pigtails together first and then when I get ready to install my headunit I just snap it into the factory harness and to the headunit. No splicing and dicing in the car.
  • black magic
    black magic Posts: 669
    edited December 2007
    exalted512 wrote: »
    Only advantage to an Alpine is the use of the H701:p
    -Cody

    Thats the plan in the spring :D
  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited December 2007
    i hate my 9885, no processor for it :( and its one of the top of the line and was the top when i got it.
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    exalted512 wrote: »
    Only advantage to an Alpine is the use of the H701:p
    -Cody


    Not if you have the CDA-9887. :cool:


    cam5860 wrote: »
    My plastic baffles are pretty strong I siliconed the hell out of them to make sure they are strong and air tight. Blackmax what do you mean about installing the pioneer headunits. What I normally do is tie my pigtails together first and then when I get ready to install my headunit I just snap it into the factory harness and to the headunit. No splicing and dicing in the car.


    They are still plastic.

    The problem with Pioneer units arise when you plug/unplug the RCA's with the unit having power.

    i hate my 9885, no processor for it :( and its one of the top of the line and was the top when i got it.

    That is why I went with other top units from other companies, like Eclipse. Unfortunately Alpine's units have been lagging far behind in the processing department when compared to other units from other companies. They came back with the CDA-9887. Now the 9887 is a nice unit, but they also have skimped back on a few things on it when compared to what Alpine use to put out (CDA-7998, CDA-9835). I think my Eclipse CD7000 overall is a better SQ unit than my CDA-9887 (not using the Imprint processing), just not as easy to use. I do not like multi-directional knobs. I prefer actual buttons. The built in processing in the CD7000 owns the non-Imprint one in the Alpine unit.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • Installer4life
    Installer4life Posts: 256
    edited December 2007
    I like the Alpine PDX series but have had bad luck with the Eclipse amplifiers. Even the eclipse technical support personnel admit that their amps are noisy. I actually thinkd Eclipse quality is lacking since they signed on with Circuit City. They just have to many little things that do not work as intended. You are much better off going with a Pioneer Z2 with all the accessories than a loaded up nav system from Eclipse.
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    I do not think that a company signing of with Circuit City has anything to do with the quality of their products. People were saying the same thing about Kicker. I've ran Kicker amps for years, even their new line, and have been pleased with them the whole time. I would still be running Eclipse HU's if they were a little easier to use.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2007
    Im with Max. Kicker kicks **** (no pun intended) and Id have absolutely no reservations on running any of their amps or subs (speakers are a different story).

    MTX is another fine example. Some of the best amps and subs with about the best build quality on the market today and theyve been sold in Circuit City since forever.

    Polk is sold in Circuit City, and I dont think any of us would question their quality.

    Gear sold at CC and BB get a stigma they dont deserve. Sure CC and BB have low price and low quality stuff, but that doesnt mean all their gear is crappy.

    They have the Verge and other crap for the entry level high school kids and then they have the Alpine and Kicker for those that want the good stuff.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D