SDA SRS 1.2 Value

mopar paul

Well I had a pm from a member here that offered to sell me a set and I have responded but haven't heard back from him yet. Hopefully it all works out and no one gets burned...

MSALLA

snow wrote: »

I think you better hurry up then because John is allready talking with the seller for these. In my oppinion both the seller and the buyer involved with this entire mess should be banned permanantly, otherwise why even bother having rules. You could up the post count to a thousand, so what if there are going to be people that skirt the rules and get away with it, it isnt going to matter how high the post count needs to be it will simply be ignored. The mods on here will hopefully step in on this unfortunate situation.



REGARDS SNOW

+1 I was joking when I said about them not lasting past this thread. John is not exactly a new guy and should know better. We might as well scrap the for sale section and just turn this thing into a place to pedal you wares. Then who can you trust. I was fooled.I thought mralpha was on the up & up.

snow

MSALLA wrote: »

+1 I was joking when I said about them not lasting past this thread. John is not exactly a new guy and should know better. We might as well scrap the for sale section and just turn this thing into a place to pedal you wares. Then who can you trust. I was fooled.I thought mralpha was on the up & up.

The naysayers can say what they want about Jesse but he nailed this one. Its sad because all the other locals there that are honest and patient wont get a chance at a pair of 1.2tls because of someones greed. This is my last post on this matter I have had my say how about I feel about this and its not up to me change things.



REGARDS SNOW

Ron Temple

Was there alot of PM conversation going on here? Looking at the thread, there was some joking around, then unacknowledged confirmation that a sale was taking place.

danger boy

must have been some super secret deal going on.. and some people (no names) may be less then forthcoming with their intentions... or is flip flopping back and forth trying to get polkies to bid against one another.

VR3

Im soooo confused at wtf happened here??? lol

mopar paul

Just to clear some of the air-NO ONE on this posting has pm'd me - but another member that saw my ad in the wanted section contacted me. He had 2-pair of 1.2's and offered to sell me a pair and I am buying them. He is a member here with a LOT of posting and a very nice guy who helped me find what I was looking for - I appreciate it greatly. Hope you all work out your differences, life is very short so find the best in everything you can!
Take care,
Paul

snow

Lasareath wrote: »

I think people on this forum are too concerned on wether or not somebody who is taking a risk of buying something is going to get screwed or not.

If somebody is selling something and the buyer wants it bad enough they are just going to try their hardest to get it (like I did with my PR's), at that point I had two things to weigh, on one hand $3500 I sank into my 1.2's and my ripped PR or getting new PR's and pissing off some people on the Forum.

I chose the PR's.

We go on and on about who's trying to sell something not in the FS and they dont have 25 posts.

I think we should state it once, CP reccomends that you buy from people with 25 posts or more in the FS. If you buy something from somebody out side the FS and get screwed then too bad, we warned you.

Beyond that what else can we do?

How many whinning posts do we need to read on this damn subject?

We will never control this.

Sal

Your situation was unique Sal, it was motivated by NEED not GREED. Therein lies the difference between these 2 deals. I think that if anyone here had said simply to the new guy hey if you decide to sell these after you get 25 posts I want dibs all would be well and no one would have said anymore about it.

In this case the buyer bad mouthed this board on another forum in addition to completing a deal outside the FM with a new person with less than 25 posts which somehow leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. As to what can be done about this in the future I dont know thats not up to me.


REGARDS SNOW

MSALLA

Lasareath wrote: »

To the seller with under 25 posts we are just another Craig's List to them. Someplace to advertize their wares to people who most likely will be intrested.

How many of these people actually stick around after they sell their Polk Gear?

This is my biggest concern. It's not that hard to run up 25 posts on here. I don't want to see a bunch of people start hit and run to dump there unwanted stuff. At least on e-bay there is a way of checking up on sellers. On here you just have to trust the seller. If this keeps up, that will no longer be able to be done so easily.

Marty913

Lasareath wrote: »

Maybe Justin needs to treat these people as spammers. And just delete the posts and the members. If you try to sell anything and you have under 25 posts you will be deleted.

Beyond that what else can we do. To the seller with under 25 posts we are just another Craig's List to them. Someplace to advertise their wares to people who most likely will be interested.

How many of these people actually stick around after they sell their Polk Gear?

I say Ban Them!

Sal

Rules are rules and the punishment for every forum I belong to is banishment. Having been thrown out of at least one, I can tell you they can be a little strict (I bashed a supporting vendor's product).Having said that, in cases like this would you always know who sold what to whom? This one seems to have taken place with private messages - did it really take place or did I miss something. If it did (and we know it for sure), then throw both of them out.

BaggedLancer

Seriously guys........this thread needs to die. Quick.

I'm 100% positive the people in charge are aware of what is going on and they will handle it with what they deem appropriate.

The fact that some of you are jumping so quick to say "Ban both of them immediately" kinda tells me why no one put you guys in charge, no offense to those of you I talk with on a regular basis.

We're talking about a new member here that came to pawn his stuff.....yes, he violated the rules. So ban him.

The other member, yes he is a newer member, but he also contributes to other aspects of the forum and engages in discussions OTHER than what you people are calling him greedy for. Sure, maybe taking it to PM's for the final sale was wrong and violation of the forum rules. But let's face it, we all break rules time to time to get what we want. It just happens.

On another note, yes JMA is local to me and no I am not defending him because he lives 2 towns over, I have never met him. However, I do know that this is the first pair of 1.2 SDA SRS i have seen come up for sale in this area in the 4 years since I have been looking on this forum, even prior to me joining. The fact that he jumped on them as quick as he did, I can't really blame him. Sure it was wrong like I previously said, but for someone who may have been waiting years for a local sale like this on a speaker this size...what would you have done?

That all being said, sorry for the long winded rant, but I don't think a banning is the proper move for something like this....a warning, yes/maybe, a banning? Absolutely NOT.

Seriously, how many members have been driven off the past months? Too many at this point. And to drive off a participating member that doesn't stir the pot in other threads(ex. CL35M & KA7), I say issue the warning and let this thread find its way to the archives.

Ricardo

Ok guys. I think we are getting too far here.

1.-I see absolutely nothing wrong if a member cuts a deal via PM's, with a new member with less than 25 posts. The buyer is taking the risk, and it is entirely up to him. If he/she gets scammed, he/she had it coming. You know what? There is nothing we can do about it. Hell, I don't want to do anything about it. What's the next step? Will we "audit" PM's to see what's going on? Come on....

2.-Let's say that the new member that wants to sell something, takes the time to build up his/hers post count to an overwhelming 25. Let's say that he/she actually contributes, answers a couple of tough questions, helps out with great thoughts......Does this make him/her a safe seller? Didn't think so.

I am the first one to say that the Polk forum members and administrators have created a great environment for safe transactions. 100% proof? No, and the buyer and seller should still be cautious even if they are dealing with members with positive feedback. I have shipped stuff to some buyers without even getting the payment, but I would not do this with anyone, no matter what the feedback says. It is up to each one of us to know what we are doing and use comon sense.

I think that increasing requirements to 100 posts PLUS 90 days in the forum would discourage many of these people that just come to sell, but there will always be "wise guys". Nothing we can do about it.

hearingimpared

Oooooopppppsss Wrong thread!

Ricardo

hearingimpared wrote: »

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BaggedLancer

Ricardo,

This a game of hangman? If so, I'll take a T

Ricardo

It's called banman. No "T".

BaggedLancer

I'll take an R, Ricardo

Ron Temple

RT? Don't get me involved in this

treitz3

Ricardo wrote: »

I think that increasing requirements to 100 posts PLUS 90 days in the forum would discourage many of these people that just come to sell, but there will always be "wise guys". Nothing we can do about it.

For what it's worth Ricardo and to the powers that be, I don't see any problem with this besides the occasional loose screwball. Demonstrating that you are indeed a "member" of Club Polk by participating and getting involved with the forum, biding your time and making 100 posts to let folks get to know you a little bit should yield the "privilege" of posting what you have for sale.

This should help to weed out the folks who have busted/crap gear and want a quick sale, but have exhausted all other means of selling because of their past sales history wherever else they sold. This should help the forum weed the scum out, IMO and help protect some of the newer members that may not be as experienced [as let's say, a senior member] in transactions over the web.

Seems to me like a win, win, win situation for all parties involved except for the joker who wants the quick sale, then bye, bye.

schwarcw

Well, let take a step back. If you had been looking for a big set of SDA's for a long time, and a set turned up in your backyard that you could go see, listen, pay and transport yourself. I think a lot of people in that situation would go to the PM and see if a deal could made. In the case of big SDA's, where local pickup is almost a must, this is a low risk opportunity. Other transactions that involve some "trust" for a seller to describe the condition, risk shipping or an outright ripoff, the buyers should be skeptical.