Protection for wireless networks

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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2007
    Ok, I'm sorry for being so dense, but how the heck do I install the new driver on the wireless desktop? It says that this driver update does allow for WPA, but I can't figure out how to install it!
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  • Refefer
    Refefer Posts: 1,280
    edited October 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Ok, I'm sorry for being so dense, but how the heck do I install the new driver on the wireless desktop? It says that this driver update does allow for WPA, but I can't figure out how to install it!

    What files did you download? Usually it comes with an installer.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Ok, I'm sorry for being so dense, but how the heck do I install the new driver on the wireless desktop? It says that this driver update does allow for WPA, but I can't figure out how to install it!

    Try uninstalling the old driver or use the "Update Driver" button in Hardware Manager.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2007
    Refefer wrote: »
    What files did you download? Usually it comes with an installer.
    Well, it has a SetUp 'icon' when I open the containing folder, but when I double-click it nothing happens.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2007
    appadv wrote: »
    Try uninstalling the old driver or use the "Update Driver" button in Hardware Manager.
    I would try that, but there are so many stinking files in this folder, I'd have NO clue what I would say is the new driver.
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited October 2007
    Don't you guys hate being so PC literate? lol
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2007
    To find your hub you could do this... RUN type in cmd at >type ipconfig the gateway IP is your hub address.

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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,277
    edited November 2007
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2007
    OK, help please! :(

    I couldn't figure out how to update the driver for the wireless desktop, so I just decided to go WEP. I set it up at the router for WEP, came up with a 10digit key, and set all that info on the wireless desktop. No go.

    So then I went back to what it was: SSID Broadcast enabled, Wireless Security disabled.

    Still no go.

    Well, Mom's not happy with no wireless, so how the heck do I get this thing working again? :confused:
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    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2007
    SOmetimes the drivers get confused when you go back and forth between security methods.

    Find the list of wireless networks, delete the one corresponding to your network, and then re-add it with the WEP.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2007
    Ok...can't believe I didn't think of that...I'll try that. Should I have the SSID broadcast enabled while setting it up? Or can I do it with it disabled?
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    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • bruss
    bruss Posts: 1,039
    edited November 2007
    i only run MAC filtering as anyone who could spoof a MAC could easily crack your encryption with backtrack2.. Also limit your ip's in the dhcp sever to a very small number.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2007
    Ok. I deleted the listed network, rebooted, then added it using the SSID, WEP, and the "WEP Key 1".

    Then in the list of networks it's crossed out and unavailable. What am I doing wrong?
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2007
    Ok, finally got it working. Had to turn the SSID broadcasting on, connect, then enter key. If I turn off SSID broadcasting now, will it be able to connect to the network next time the wireless desktop is rebooted?
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited November 2007
    should be.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2007
    It should, though I'll behonest, I never shut off SSID broadcasting. Just too much of a hassle when trying to get others on my network.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2007
    Ok, I'll just leave it on, then.

    Thanks to everyone!!!
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    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2007
    If you think shutting off SSID broadcasting will protect you, guess again. I was scanning my network (SSID broadcast off) with a laptop and my network was picked up right away. However, it took about an hour to decipher the SSID. I use WPA. Turning off SSID broadcast will bore an attacker to go look for easier prey like 64 bit WEP with SSID broadcast on (you can be owned in 11 min).

    If you're truly paranoid, use WPA2, MAC filtering, SSID broadcast off, and change your password monthly (or weekly). WPA can be cracked but I haven't tried it yet. From what I've read, it takes a very, very, very long time so if you change your password frequently, the attacker has to start over. You have to really piss somebody off for them to take the time to attack your WPA or WPA2 encryption considering there's so many network out there still using WEP.
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  • VSchneider
    VSchneider Posts: 443
    edited November 2007
    fatchowmein wrote: »
    If you think shutting off SSID broadcasting will protect you, guess again. ... I use WPA. Turning off SSID broadcast will bore an attacker to go look for easier prey like 64 bit WEP with SSID broadcast on (you can be owned in 11 min).

    I agree 100%. All I am worried about is a 12-year-old on a rainy afternoon with a laptop and no games to play.
    But I must agree with bobman, although I DO keep my SSID broadcasting off, it could sometimes be painful when you need to add a friend's laptop in a hurry. What I found works the best, is turning SSID on just of a quick minute long enough for a new PC to select my SSID, and enter the WPA password. Then you can use the same laptop to connect and turn SSID broadcast off. Over the years this only did not work once in my experience.
    shadowofnight wrote: »
    WPA/MAC address filtering/and not broadcasting your SSID puts your car in the garage out of sight....puts a pit bull in the front seat ...and the owner is peeking through the glass with his .45 :)
    So well said :D
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2007
    VSchneider wrote: »
    What I found works the best, is turning SSID on just of a quick minute long enough for a new PC to select my SSID, and enter the WPA password. Then you can use the same laptop to connect and turn SSID broadcast off.

    Are you sure you need to turn SSID on? I believe you merely need to manually enter the SSID, encryption type, channel, and password. We've done this on my wife's laptop, xbox 360 (I later returned the wireless adapter), iPaq, and my desktop pc.
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