Response to Ka7niq's Comments/Inquiry of 10/21/07
DarqueKnight
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Good morning Ka7niq. The thread where you posted your previous inquiry has been closed. I did not want to hijack another thread, so I thought it more appropriate to post my response in a separate thread. Let's begin.
I do not see an analogy between a company founder autographing a book, that, according to you, accused him of being a rip off artist, and a company owner including a feature that he does not particularly agree with, but is nevertheless harmless to the design of the product. I realize this may be difficult or even impossible for you to follow/grasp/comprehend, but the first case is an example of alleged libel, which is legally actionable. The second case is an example of a company owner including a feature that he does not see the need for, but that his customers demand and are willing to pay for. The fact that you see these two widely disparate situations as analogous makes you appear to have poor reasoning ability.
If you think Matt Polk would autograph several copies of a book where the author is calling him a scam artist, then that is a great insult to him. I have said on several occasions, in posts on this forum, that I received modification guidance from Polk Audio. If I held the belief that I knew better than them, I certainly would not have sought their advice. This is basic common sense, in which you appear to be sorely lacking.
This is another example of you rehashing an old discussion just for the sake of argument. At one time I owned fifteen pairs of Polk Audio speakers, which included SDAs and other series. If I thought Polk speakers sounded bad I would not have owned so many pairs. I currently own five pairs of SDAs and two pairs of LSis. I removed the electrolytic in the SDAs, but the LSis are unmodified, meaning their crossovers still contain electrolytic capacitors. You cannot find one instance of where I said that electrolytic caps were bad because I never said it. What I did say was this:
It appears that you have extremely poor reading comprehension and extremely poor reasoning skills. This makes it difficult to have a reasonably intelligent and linear conversation with you. You frequently misrepresent and misquote people. I dont know if this is indicative of real mental pathology or if you are just acting up for attention. In either case, it makes you look bad. If you are just trying to satisfy your apparent craving for attention and acceptance, there are more positive ways of achieving it. If your behavior here is indicative of the way you interact with your customers, this provides some insight into why you have had time to make up to 34 posts per day here.
You seem to keep wanting to rehash the same tired topics over and over again, even when the other party has plainly and clearly stated their position. It is understandable that comments could be mis-remembered during a vocal conversation. It is inexcusable when the prior comments are written and recorded in a public forum. This makes it appear that you are here primarily to sow discord and to be a disruptive element.
Absolutely, call whoever you want. I still have my notes from when I did my first modification on my SDA 1Bs. Subsequent to reading an audio magazine article about speaker modifications, I called Polk on 02/15/90 and asked to speak to someone concerning speaker modifications for my SDA 1B's. I was forwarded to Polks engineering department and I spoke at length with someone named Chris. I did not write down his last name. I realize this is extremely important to you. It should be a simple matter to determine if the Chris I spoke to still works there. If he does not, I am sure they can provide you with his full name. You can then track him down and verify my claims. You may also be able to verify my claims with any current Polk engineering employee whose tenure goes back to 1990. My understanding from Chris was that Polk had experimented with using all film caps in SDA crossovers, but it was not practical to implement on a mass produced scale because of parts supply issues. I, and others, have told you this repeatedly. Also, I was told that several of the engineers at that time did modify their personal SDA speakers and I was enthusiastically encouraged to do so.
Good luck with your investigation.
Matt Polks signature on a compendium does not necessarily mean a stamp of appproval. Infinity places bi amp/bi wire terminals on it's speakers due to marketing pressure.
Floyd Toole does NOT believe in bi wire.
I do not see an analogy between a company founder autographing a book, that, according to you, accused him of being a rip off artist, and a company owner including a feature that he does not particularly agree with, but is nevertheless harmless to the design of the product. I realize this may be difficult or even impossible for you to follow/grasp/comprehend, but the first case is an example of alleged libel, which is legally actionable. The second case is an example of a company owner including a feature that he does not see the need for, but that his customers demand and are willing to pay for. The fact that you see these two widely disparate situations as analogous makes you appear to have poor reasoning ability.
In MY mind, since Polk speakers use electrolytic except on the tweeters, you are calling Matt Polk a rip off. Polk speakers have long gotten great reviews WITH some electrolytic caps in the crossovers. But then along comes you and your Compendium, and suddenly YOU know better then Matt Polk and Harry Pearson what sounds good.
If you think Matt Polk would autograph several copies of a book where the author is calling him a scam artist, then that is a great insult to him. I have said on several occasions, in posts on this forum, that I received modification guidance from Polk Audio. If I held the belief that I knew better than them, I certainly would not have sought their advice. This is basic common sense, in which you appear to be sorely lacking.
IF Matt Polk really believed electrolytic caps are "so bad", What are they doing in his speakers ?
And IF they are "so bad", why do Polk speakers get good reviews ?
Oh, but the DarqueKnight knows more then Polk Engineering.
This is another example of you rehashing an old discussion just for the sake of argument. At one time I owned fifteen pairs of Polk Audio speakers, which included SDAs and other series. If I thought Polk speakers sounded bad I would not have owned so many pairs. I currently own five pairs of SDAs and two pairs of LSis. I removed the electrolytic in the SDAs, but the LSis are unmodified, meaning their crossovers still contain electrolytic capacitors. You cannot find one instance of where I said that electrolytic caps were bad because I never said it. What I did say was this:
DarqueKnight wrote: »The folks at Polk and Adcom were very helpful and straightforward about where they cut corners and costs. They were very forthcoming about modifications to improve performance.
DarqueKnight wrote: »Film dielectrics are generally better at preserving signal integrity than electrolytics. Polk did not use them extensively because of cost and vendor supply issues.
DarqueKnight wrote: »When I contacted Polk's engineering department about recommended modifications, replacing the electrolytic capacitors with polypropylene capacitors was tops on the list. I was specifically cautioned against using teflon and polystyrene capacitors because they were "too fast" and would cause harshness and hardness in the high frequencies.
DarqueKnight wrote: »It is not a matter of the electrolytics being bad, it is a matter of taking a great speaker design and optimizing it with better parts. Modified SDA's come much closer to realizing the performance potential inherent in their design.
It appears that you have extremely poor reading comprehension and extremely poor reasoning skills. This makes it difficult to have a reasonably intelligent and linear conversation with you. You frequently misrepresent and misquote people. I dont know if this is indicative of real mental pathology or if you are just acting up for attention. In either case, it makes you look bad. If you are just trying to satisfy your apparent craving for attention and acceptance, there are more positive ways of achieving it. If your behavior here is indicative of the way you interact with your customers, this provides some insight into why you have had time to make up to 34 posts per day here.
You seem to keep wanting to rehash the same tired topics over and over again, even when the other party has plainly and clearly stated their position. It is understandable that comments could be mis-remembered during a vocal conversation. It is inexcusable when the prior comments are written and recorded in a public forum. This makes it appear that you are here primarily to sow discord and to be a disruptive element.
Oh wait a minute, you have talked to Polk Engineers, right ?
Can I call them and verify this ? What ones ? Brad Starobin, Matt ?
Absolutely, call whoever you want. I still have my notes from when I did my first modification on my SDA 1Bs. Subsequent to reading an audio magazine article about speaker modifications, I called Polk on 02/15/90 and asked to speak to someone concerning speaker modifications for my SDA 1B's. I was forwarded to Polks engineering department and I spoke at length with someone named Chris. I did not write down his last name. I realize this is extremely important to you. It should be a simple matter to determine if the Chris I spoke to still works there. If he does not, I am sure they can provide you with his full name. You can then track him down and verify my claims. You may also be able to verify my claims with any current Polk engineering employee whose tenure goes back to 1990. My understanding from Chris was that Polk had experimented with using all film caps in SDA crossovers, but it was not practical to implement on a mass produced scale because of parts supply issues. I, and others, have told you this repeatedly. Also, I was told that several of the engineers at that time did modify their personal SDA speakers and I was enthusiastically encouraged to do so.
Good luck with your investigation.
Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
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That made my day...it is always awkward when you suddenly start laughing at work. -
A-freaking-men.Richard? Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa? Or is it........................Spanky?.................................Sinner.
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In the original thread I was going to defend DK's honor but I knew he was far more capable of defending himself than I could have done w/respect to the comment about Matt Polk and the electrolytic/mylar capacitors.
Special K has learned nothing about how to conduct himself even though he has been given good advice, repeatedly.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
nice, well penned post DK, which makes it a shame that it was a complete waste of time. Ka7nik seems to have no interest in genuine conversation in a social setting that does not involve making him look (in his mind) cool, and (in our minds) like a moron, but hey...to each his own.
That notwithstanding, I still see why you felt compelled to type it
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Special K's response??
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a shocked response, along with a genuine possibility of Jihad ?!?!?! LOL Living Room 2 Channel -
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OMG! He's a Nationally known audiophile??? Self proclaimed no doubt.Richard? Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa? Or is it........................Spanky?.................................Sinner.
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I watch nothing but racing/sports/history channel/discovery channel/etc on TV....is this what those reality shows are like ?
I will probably be receiving my Compendium today or tomorrow.......do you REALLY think Matt would have autographed ( Which is basically signing off on it , even if he had not read it at the time...I am SURE by now he has gone through it in its entirety ) it if it was garbage ?
Man of ALL people I LOVE a good fight....but damn dude the ONE thing people on this forum do know well are polk speakers. DK didnt just throw that thing together to make money with a bunch of made up **** in it....I am sure he had many many inputs to this work...all QA'ed by the members of this forum. Do you think for a second that if any of us read something in there that was outright wrong it wouldnt be called out by numerous members of this forum. ?
You can argue about most things in audio till you turn blue in the face...and usually both sides have some merit to them pro/con......but with all the checks and balances input into this particular subject matter , it is just comical.The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club -
Is this guy still around? I thought he was banned last week, then I saw the crap he wrote accusing George of being a scammer. He has been an integral part of at least two threads being locked down in the last week. What does it take? If they are not going to ban him then I propose that we all add Ka7 to our "ignore" list.For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
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Nationally known audiophile as in "stay away from this whacko"!
Once you peel the onion back, the real story starts to emerge.DKG999
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- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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How do you guys find all these links. LOL
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How do you guys find all these links. LOL
We served an apprenticeship with the Googlemeister to hone our skills. Plus, we have supernatural "special powers" of investigative ability. Sort of like Jedi midichlorians.:)
The search engine is strong with us.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
At least we can agree on this:
"I hate being around negative people, they are such an energy drain."--Ka7niq
Taken from here:
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OMG, that singles club is too funny!
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It is hard to stay away from a flame war. I was being accused of having no reading comprehension by a 13 year old kid(s), it was hard not to come back with some kind of attack and keep it going, beating the horse. It was why I left those threads.
While I do not agree with people being banned, locked, censored, and so on... it is hard not to WANT some kind of moderation when people like that cannot take that others do not have the same opinions as they do. I think that most of us know that music touches something different in all of us. It is something we have to respect. Some people... I don't know... they get really mad when others don't think like they do. It reminds me of religious fundamentalism, or the idea that everyone is wrong but you. I feel as though we all are searching for a similar thing, and just approaching it from different angles and perspectives. Why is this a bad thing for some? Individuality should be something to be proud of, and not just in one's self either. It makes me happy when I see OTHERS show their own individuality. The last thing on my mind is anger when someone has a passion for something. How can we learn from each other if we re all the same?
This may be club polk, but that does not mean we are all the same. The fact that many people in this club do not even have polk speakers, speaks volumes about how we usually approach things here.
When I used to play some video games, we would call guys like that ABX, "Griefers", because they existed in the community just to give others grief. I guess on forums we call them trolls...
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DarqueKnight wrote: »We served an apprenticeship with the Googlemeister to hone our skills. Plus, we have supernatural "special powers" of investigative ability. Sort of like Jedi midichlorians.:)
The search engine is strong with us.
Too funny. Make a man spit up his drink will ya. LOL
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"46 year old nationally known audiophile, and business owner.
Advanced Class Ham Radio operator, Antenna and Loudspeaker designer.
Writer of many reviews at Audioweb.com
I hate being around negative people, they are such an energy drain."
Advanced Loudspeaker designer? Nationally known? 46, but runs a singles group for ages 35-39?
Crackpot.
Yashu, DK's rep around here is no danger what-so-ever. If anything, it's getting better and better by the post.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
Maybe he likes younger women? It isn't uncommon.
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It's actually 35 - 59, but he's probably around 53 now.
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He is like the guy who enjoys farting in a crowded car.....even though its fun to do on occasion...the guy who does it EVERYTIME gets a boot in his **** and out of the car.The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65249
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I guess with all of his name dropping everyone missed his review of the highly acclaimed Sony speaker in his Epionions page!!
His review is a must read!!!!!
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The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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I haven't been following this guy around much, but I think everyone has come to the same conclusion. If he wrote something bad about me I would just have to laugh. I actually feel bad for the guy. He can't have many friends. He seems to have suffered from a head injury. The entertainment value is there, but I really do feel that people shouldn't pick on people with mental deficiencies.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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