what subwoofer should i get?

KineticKinetic Posts: 437
edited March 2008 in Car Subwoofer Talk
Hi Guys, My name is Bernardo and im a happy costumer from Mexico city.

I have a Honda Accord Coupe 2000 and inside i have:

i have an Alpine 9887 HU
with Polk Audio DB6500 in the front
and Polk Audio DB690 in the back

the 4 of them powered with a 4 channel digital AMP , 100WRMS per channel


Now heres the question..

I dont know anything about Subs, what should i get?

i saw the Polks DB212-2, Those looks nice, but is it the right sub for me?
Z
/////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
/////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
/////Alpine PDX-4.150
/////Alpine PDX-1.1000
Polk Audio SR 6500
Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

G35
/////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
/////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
/////Alpine PDX-4.150
/////Alpine PDX-1.1000
/////Alpine SPX 17PRO
/////Alpine SWX 1243D
KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
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  • 1996blackmax1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited October 2007
    What type of sound do you want out of your sub system? Looks like you want something that will hit, the DB212-2 will do that. By the way, nice choice on the HU ;).
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  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    yes i want deep, rich, powerful bass

    but just enough for bringing me the complete experience on my music.

    i love SQ, and i want to enjoy my HU and speakers..
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • Installer4lifeInstaller4life Posts: 256
    edited October 2007
    The Polk DB212 is a very loud box. I would look at a single 12" subwoofer in a sealed enclosure. The Polk SR124DVC will work perfect for what you want. Give it about 750 watts of power and you will be set. It will be a great match for what you already have. Also, The box is only 1.2 cubic feet internally so it will not take up a lot of trunk space.
  • 1996blackmax1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited October 2007
    Agreed....you can get away with what you want from a single sub. There are a good amount of subs that will work just fine. The SR is a good choice. The W6V2 is also a very nice.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • Installer4lifeInstaller4life Posts: 256
    edited October 2007
    Agreed....you can get away with what you want from a single sub. There are a good amount of subs that will work just fine. The SR is a good choice. The W6V2 is also a very nice.

    Absolutely! The W6 is an excellent choice. Instead of buying two good subs get one great sub.
  • eloplayspoloeloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited October 2007
    my bro used to have that car, he had 2 10s and it sounded pretty decent, just make sure u dynamat your trunk so it doesnt resonate
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • eloplayspoloeloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited October 2007
    btw nice head unit, i woulda got that one but it wasnt out yet and i couldnt wait.
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    First of all, thanks a lot for helping me here, i really appreciate it.

    i dont care too much about the space in the boot, and i think that the "DB212-2" looks nicer in the trunk, but however i have never hear any of those, and Polk Audio dont have them in stock here (just by pre order).

    Also there are not good enclosures here in mexico, its going to be difficult to find a guy who really knows what he is doing, and for an affordable price.

    So im really lost here, and you guys are the experts here.

    what should be the differences in SQ and SPL between the DBs and the SR, is it a big difference? or a small one?

    thanks again
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • eloplayspoloeloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited October 2007
    big dif, your looking at competition vs entry lvl, its like comparing a 3 series bmw to a 7 series almost, u get what u pay for for the most part
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    btw nice head unit, i woulda got that one but it wasnt out yet and i couldnt wait.

    that HU its amazing, i was going to buy the IVA-W205 because everyone told me that the SQ was the same, but know that i have my 9887, it really makes the difference.
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    ok so i will get one SR124-DVC

    and i will powered with an Alpine PDX-1.600

    and the enclosure should be sealed, am i right?
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • eloplayspoloeloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited October 2007
    sound quality = sealed, yes, unless all u listen to is hip hop(maybe reggaton in your case :)), go with a sealed box
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    sound quality = sealed, yes, unless all u listen to is hip hop(maybe reggaton in your case :)), go with a sealed box

    in Mexico city we dont listen reggeton, thats from south america, and real mexican music is influenced by european music, just the north of mexico is influenced by south america. (soth america is the south of the continent, not the south of the states)

    I listen "electronic music" and "classic music", somethimes rock and "easy listening".

    and i think that the sealed box for the SR sub is not to big, but the SR in the sealed box is enough for my big trunk?

    Once i heard a car with a sub that doesnt rattles and just made a big flow of air, how can i make that? i already have dynamat
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • 1996blackmax1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited October 2007
    On my last trip to South America (Ecuador), they were playing alot of reggeton at the clubs that we went to.



    More deadening maybe necessary as well as some sort of anti-rattle material such as rattle pad or overkill.

    http://www.secondskinaudio.com/store.php?category=56


    http://www.secondskinaudio.com/store.php?category=55
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • eloplayspoloeloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited October 2007
    i went to puerto rico for a day on a cruise, thats all that was playing in the cars, lot of fun, i listen to it myself, for electronic, def go sealed
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    On my last trip to South America (Ecuador), they were playing alot of reggeton at the clubs that we went to.



    More deadening maybe necessary as well as some sort of anti-rattle material such as rattle pad or overkill.

    http://www.secondskinaudio.com/store.php?category=56


    http://www.secondskinaudio.com/store.php?category=55

    that thing is cheaper than the Dynamat maybe i would buy this for the parts that i didnt cover with the dynamat.

    and yes South American people listen a lot of that, i really dont know why this music phenomena, but every region is a different culture
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    i went to puerto rico for a day on a cruise, thats all that was playing in the cars, lot of fun, i listen to it myself, for electronic, def go sealed

    ei thanks a lot for the help i really appreciate it

    and what about the power?

    1 of these should be enogh?

    i want to powered with an Alpine PDX1.600 (600W RMS maybe a little more)
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • eloplayspoloeloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited October 2007
    If u mean power as in how much your going to push into it or how loud it will be in the car, its all preference, i like A LOT of bass, i wana feel it.

    for power polk site says Electrical
    Overall Frequency Response 20-200 Hz
    Nominal Impedance 4 ohms
    Power Handling (continuous) 700 w
    Power Handling (peak) 1400 w
    Efficiency 89 dB

    Do as it says, at least 700


    Take a look around the forums and see what others are running into them.
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    If u mean power as in how much your going to push into it or how loud it will be in the car, its all preference, i like A LOT of bass, i wana feel it.

    for power polk site says Electrical
    Overall Frequency Response 20-200 Hz
    Nominal Impedance 4 ohms
    Power Handling (continuous) 700 w
    Power Handling (peak) 1400 w
    Efficiency 89 dB

    Do as it says, at least 700


    Take a look around the forums and see what others are running into them.


    yes i mean, if 600 WRMs should be enogh for me to hear a good bass inside the car?

    im looking for 20% o 30% more bass than the normal speakers...
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • eloplayspoloeloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited October 2007
    then i question why u would get an SR
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    its almost the same price as the DB212-2 and the people here reccomend it
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • eloplayspoloeloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited October 2007
    k, but 1 momo would def get the job done and save him prob around 400 bucks
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    i dont like the polk momo (i hate MOMO).

    and those are rated 400WRMS wich is the same that i have inside the car, so i think that the inside speakers are going to give me more bass than the sub.

    i was thinking in 600 to 750W RMS, becouse i like to feel the bass, to make it a complete listening experience.

    and i think that the DB212-2 are better option than one momo, dont you think? but you tell me, i really am clueless about subwoofers
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • RemyngtonRemyngton Posts: 18
    edited October 2007
    Kinetic wrote: »
    i dont like the polk momo (i hate MOMO).

    and those are rated 400WRMS wich is the same that i have inside the car, so i think that the inside speakers are going to give me more bass than the sub.

    i was thinking in 600 to 750W RMS, becouse i like to feel the bass, to make it a complete listening experience.

    and i think that the DB212-2 are better option than one momo, dont you think? but you tell me, i really am clueless about subwoofers

    You're right, you are clueless about the subs ;) The MOMO series subs are a great sounding sub, they make the DB series sound like dog poo. But, the SR will sound much better, much cleaner, and as it sounds for the quality that you are looking for, this will deliver the power and sound quality you want. All you should need is one in a sealed enclosure wired to 2 ohms, with the PDX-1.600 amp that you had mentioned earlier.
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    Remyngton wrote: »
    You're right, you are clueless about the subs ;) The MOMO series subs are a great sounding sub, they make the DB series sound like dog poo. But, the SR will sound much better, much cleaner, and as it sounds for the quality that you are looking for, this will deliver the power and sound quality you want. All you should need is one in a sealed enclosure wired to 2 ohms, with the PDX-1.600 amp that you had mentioned earlier.

    so how can i do that?

    the polk SR 124 DVC and the PDX-1.600 Works as you say?
    or how can i wired to 2 ohms?

    do i have to put 2 pair of cables from the amp to the sub? as it is a DVC to make 2 ohms?

    PD: i hate MOMO the italian brand, not Polk MOMO the speakers.
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • RemyngtonRemyngton Posts: 18
    edited October 2007
    Kinetic wrote: »
    so how can i do that?

    the polk SR 124 DVC and the PDX-1.600 Works as you say?
    or how can i wired to 2 ohms?

    do i have to put 2 pair of cables from the amp to the sub? as it is a DVC to make 2 ohms?

    PD: i hate MOMO the italian brand, not Polk MOMO the speakers.

    Actually, I just looked at the specs on the PDX-1.600. It is 600W RMS to either 4 or 2 ohms, so you could either get the DVC or the SVC variety. The DVC is wired 2 ohms from the factory, so that wouldn't pose a problem. Alpine underrates their amps, I have an MRD-605 rated at 600W at 2 ohms, but delivers 655W according to the birth sheet. This is still underpowering the SR124, but not by much. For what you are using it for I think this would be fine.
  • killerbkillerb Posts: 390
    edited October 2007
    if you want one sub to hit hard and sound excellent look at image dynamics and stereo integrity for some really nice subs. for me one sr12 with 650 watts was not enough, thats why i got another. one stereo integrity mag will get the job done with monster output and some of the cleanest bass out there. dont get me wrong, i love my sr12's, but there are some really great subs out there.
    kenwood excelon kdc-x991 h.u.
    Rockford Fosgate 360.3 DSP
    Rockford Fosgate POWER1000 running entire system
    Image Dynamics IDQ12 Sub
    Morel Elate 6 front stage
  • 1996blackmax1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited October 2007
    That SI Mag is one sweet sub. Image Dynamics also makes some very nice subs.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • KineticKinetic Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    but those brands are too difficult to get here in mexico city.

    i will have to stick to the polk SR
    Z
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    Polk Audio SR 6500
    Polk Audio SR 124 DVC
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable

    G35
    /////Alpine CDA-9887 HU
    /////Alpine KTX-1000EQ
    /////Alpine PDX-4.150
    /////Alpine PDX-1.1000
    /////Alpine SPX 17PRO
    /////Alpine SWX 1243D
    KnuKonceptz MKS Kable
  • 1996blackmax1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited October 2007
    "Sticking" to the SR is actually a very good thing.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
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