Do You Guys Run Your SDA'a And SRS's Close To Back Wall ?
ka7niq
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I know what it says in the manual, but do you guys really do it ?
In my experience, close back wall placement kills image depth.
Any commments ?
In my experience, close back wall placement kills image depth.
Any commments ?
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I know what it says in the manual, but do you guys really do it ?
In my experience, close back wall placement kills image depth.
Any commments ?
i agree, it does kill the imaging, but it helps with the bass extension.. so it's a compromise... i run mine about 4 inches off the back wall.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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Yes, these are different speakers than you are use to. following the manual has worked best for me.Dodd - Battery Preamp
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Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
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DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
Outlaw ICBM - crossover
Beringher BFD - sub eq
Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." -
I think mine (SRS2's) are about 2" away from the wall and if you're in the hot spot, they sound damn nice. I will say that these things have some major bass. Almost more so than the 2.3's that I've been working on.Richard? Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa? Or is it........................Spanky?.................................Sinner.
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Have mine 7" from the back wall...For our room,this seems to be the best spot to bring out the Bass and to project the best image.
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I have always found it to be room dependent. My 1.2TL's are 11" from the rear wall. Pushing them closer overemphasizes the bass. My SRS's are 4.5" from the rear wall. When I had 1B's they were 2" from the rear wall. The CRS+'s I used to have in my home office were 2" from the rear wall.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
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I agree w/ darqueknight on this one. I have sda 2a's and found that at my college apt that I needed them close to the wall for decent bass. However, at my house, they are about a foot or so off of the back wall and bass is certainly not a problem.ChrisPreamp: Anthem Pre 2L (Jan-Phillips Green) Processor: Marantz SR7012 Amp: B&K 200.5Streaming: Bluesound Node 2IDAC: Eastern Electric Minimax Plus4K Bluray: Panasonic UB820Mains: Von Schweikert VR2Center: Von Schweikert LCR15 Subs: 2 SVS Sb13 Ultra (HT Only) Analysis Plus Cables
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Thanks Guys!
I plan on getting a wall mounted HDTV Widescreen Plasma or whatever ?
Now I have a 55 inch widescreen rear projector.
Puttin the SRS 2's close to wall will make em radiate near the sides of TV.
I have em out in front of TV now.
What shall I do for a center channel ? -
a TV, well you have to keep the front edge of the speakers in front of the TV.Dodd - Battery Preamp
Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
Outlaw ICBM - crossover
Beringher BFD - sub eq
Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." -
You may find that you have no need for a center. I am using the Sda's as 2 channel w/ my 51" hitachi. I have never felt like anything was missing sound wise. That includes HD-Dvd's through my 360. I believe that it does depend on your room, as mine is fairly small. If you do go with a center, I have read that an LSI-C is a good match.ChrisPreamp: Anthem Pre 2L (Jan-Phillips Green) Processor: Marantz SR7012 Amp: B&K 200.5Streaming: Bluesound Node 2IDAC: Eastern Electric Minimax Plus4K Bluray: Panasonic UB820Mains: Von Schweikert VR2Center: Von Schweikert LCR15 Subs: 2 SVS Sb13 Ultra (HT Only) Analysis Plus Cables
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I find it room and source dependent. On symphonic media, I like them pulled out nearly 2 feet from the wall for a really deep stage. For vinyl, I find the added bass from closer wall placement a plus.HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable -
I know what it says in the manual, but do you guys really do it ?
In my experience, close back wall placement kills image depth.
Any commments ?
Yeah, why do you keep asking the same questions?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Yeah, why do you keep asking the same questions?
To get as many peoples experience as possible, and see if perhaps some others are running them as I am, well out from the walls.
I would hate to dump a perfectly good rear projection TV in favor of a wall mounted unit, ONLY to find out it was not really necessary:) -
well no two people's rooms or stereo equipment is exactly the same.. my room acoustics would be different than yours.. like all audio.. speakers need a lot of tweaking to make them sound the best they can.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin: -
Polk SDA type speakers are one of the FEW speakers that have "escaped" me over a 30 some year audio obsession.danger boy wrote: »well no two people's rooms or stereo equipment is exactly the same.. my room acoustics would be different than yours.. like all audio.. speakers need a lot of tweaking to make them sound the best they can.
I thought perhaps the SDA circuit somehow enhanced depth, allowing close wall placement ?
I have owned many speakers, from Acoustat Model 8 Electrostats to Western Electric Horns, and a few in between.
In my experience, MOST speakers being close to a rear wall is great for bass, but shortens depth.
My room is FULL of speakers, LOL
My VMPS RM 40's, 801's, L 7's and the big Von Schweikert's are against the rear wall, because I am playing with the SRS 2's at the moment.
It would take considerable moving to try the SRS 2's against the rear wall, and I still have the problem of the rear projection TV and my corner mounted subs.
That is one reason I sold some Modified Klipsch Cornwalls, they needed rear wall reinforcement, but did not sound good back there. -
Dear God, please make him stop!Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I know what it says in the manual, but do you guys really do it ?
In my experience, close back wall placement kills image depth.
Any commments ?
mine are 6" from the rear wall and 3 feet from the side wallsJC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
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That is a good idea Salka7niq,
There's only one real solution. Sell off all your other speakers or put them in other rooms in your house.
Then get rid of the TV and buy a Rear Mounted Projector and a screen or paint a screen on your front wall with screen goo.
http://38.161.195.8/SCREEN-GOO.jpg
http://www.screengoo.com/
Then you can enjoy total imaging from your SDA's without the TV getting the way!
Sal
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One of the reasons i avoided posting for the last 4 years on this site is i have noticed that people can be really mean to each other. I have never really understood it.. Its looks kind of brutal when you sit back and observe.
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One of the reasons i avoided posting for the last 4 years on this site is i have noticed that people can be really mean to each other. I have never really understood it.. Its looks kind of brutal when you sit back and observe.
I'm relatively new here,,and I think that alot of what you see/read,,sre some of the folks just "messin" with each other. Alot of the older members will protect the flea market with vengance,,and rightfully so.Everyone that I've ever met and/or done business with on this site are "stand up" people. God bless em',, every one and all.
sorry for the derail,, it just kinda came out
JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
Well said.
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WHAT is your deal F1nut, your problem ?
With a little luck and time spent in deep reflection, I'm sure you'll figure it out.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Yeah, KNOW what you mean.One of the reasons i avoided posting for the last 4 years on this site is i have noticed that people can be really mean to each other. I have never really understood it.. Its looks kind of brutal when you sit back and observe.
This kind of crap IMHO runs off the timid, and those who like to avoid conflict.
I fall into neither one of those categories.
This is about the THIRD time this person has been outright rude and condescending towards me.'
He has made "excuses" for his rude behavior like "this is just HOW we roll here".
Being new here, I just kinda took his crap, but NO more.
I am a Polk SRS and RT 2000p owner, and have every "right" to be here, and ask as few, or as many questions as I wish, EVEN seemingly repetitive ones.
Just as everyone else does.
He does NOT "own this board", and quite frankly, I find his signature offensive, and not the least bit funny.
Every time he posts, that signature is visible, yet I have tried to be tolerant.
But when he starts attacking me, that is where the **** stops.
F1nut, I am NOT gonna take your **** anymore, understand ?
I am NOT gonna be "bullied" off this or any other board, so get USED to me, or avoid my threads/posts. -
I have 'figured' you out, you are a verbally abusive individual who sugar coats your verbal abuse with excuses like "this is how we roll here", like YOU speak for everyone, LOLWith a little luck and time spent in deep reflection, I'm sure you'll figure it out.
Then you tell me to "put on a thick skin", so you can continue the smart **** remarks and verbal abuse.
Ain't gonna happen Guy, I have had quite enough of your ****! -
When I had my Adcoms I ran mine a foot away from the wall The bass was nice and smooth, and imaging was the best. With my Denon They are about 4 inches from the wall to help bring back some of the lost slam, and imaging well, I have them hooked up to a Denon, the imaging is trashed anyways.What!?!!
You found you don't need a center channel because your not listening in 5.1
Your most likely listening in stereo 2CH mode to movies and TV.
The center channel speaker is one of the most important speakers in a HT set up.
If I un-plug my center channel speaker in the middle of a movie it sounds like I just lost 80% of the dialogue.
I'm using a CSi5 with very good results.
My 1.2TL's are 11" from the front walls of my living room. I have tried them from 3 to 11" one inch at a time and where they are now they sound the best. When they were closer the bass sounded over extended and not natural.
Las
If I set my center to none on the receiver it redirects the center sound to the fronts, and sounds better than the acctual center channel IF you are in the sweet spot. now if a group of ppl are listening you defiantly want the center channel going so every one can get the effect (which is the way mine is run 99.99999999% of the time). -
The 2.3s on my main 2-ch system are 8" out from the wall.
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Yes, I have noticed they like a LOT of current, or bass seems to suffer a bit.dudeinaroom wrote: »When I had my Adcoms I ran mine a foot away from the wall The bass was nice and smooth, and imaging was the best. With my Denon They are about 4 inches from the wall to help bring back some of the lost slam, and imaging well, I have them hooked up to a Denon, the imaging is trashed anyways.
If I set my center to none on the receiver it redirects the center sound to the fronts, and sounds better than the acctual center channel IF you are in the sweet spot. now if a group of ppl are listening you defiantly want the center channel going so every one can get the effect (which is the way mine is run 99.99999999% of the time).
I owned a Denon 5600 receiver, had to get an amp for it.
It had a thin, flat soundfield, but when hooked up acting as a preamp only to an amp it was better.
My SRS 2's are playing pink noise in the other room with an EQ in line.
The 1 and 2 k sliders are cranked up 10 db.
This will break in the new RDO 194 tweeters faster.
Believe it or not, the SRS 2's have bass in my room, even 3 feet out from back wall.
I BET near a wall they will shake the room ? -
Hey, how do you like the Rogue Magnum Pre Amp ?Mike Reeter wrote: »Have mine 7" from the back wall...For our room,this seems to be the best spot to bring out the Bass and to project the best image.
Stock Tubes ? -
Hey, how do you like the Rogue Magnum Pre Amp ?
Stock Tubes ?
Like it...The Rogue throws a huge soundstage with great body and detail.
I've tried several tubes,have settled into a pair of Sylvania's for everyday listening.
The original Mullards are also excellent -
I USED to think that George, that MAYBE he was "just messing" with me.George Daniel wrote: »I'm relatively new here,,and I think that a lot of what you see/read,,are some of the folks just "messing" with each other. A lot of the older members will protect the flea market with vengeance,,and rightfully so.Everyone that I've ever met and/or done business with on this site are "stand up" people. God bless em',, every one and all.
sorry for the derail,, it just kinda came out
That is why I let some stuff slide ....
But "protecting the flea market" is one thing, and straight out meanness and verbal abuse is another.
IMHO, he disrespected me.
Perhaps he mistook my "acceptance" of his first verbal tirade as "permission" to continue his smart **** remarks ?
Whatever ...
Like most here, I am also a veteran audiophile, just new to the whole SDA thing.
I come here to have Fun, and exchange ideas, not to fight.
But enough is enough.
