Cables can be everything!

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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited August 2007
    I thought it was usually Tedwick who reeled 'em in?!?
    Shack... what are you going to do with this catch? Stuff him and mount him? Or throw him on the grill?
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2007
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    I thought it was usually Tedwick who reeled 'em in?!?
    Shack... what are you going to do with this catch? Stuff him and mount him? Or throw him on the grill?

    Below the limit...gotta throw it back and let it grow a little more.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited August 2007
    daveyg2 wrote: »
    When you use cheap crap they dont matter. For everyone else of course they matter. Can change the entire systems sound right away. i have cables that are very very dark sounding, some that are bright. You hear it right away. Try using good cables and see the difference. If not then dont comment on things you dont know about.


    If you weren't so busy trying to hit 25 posts, you might have realized that Shack's comment was just a little tongue in cheek. Perhaps you should take your own advice.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    If you weren't so busy trying to hit 25 posts, you might have realized that Shack's comment was just a little tongue in cheek. Perhaps you should take your own advice.

    I'm patiently waiting to see what he has to offer up FS. I will admit his posts are on topic and generally his opinions seem to have some foundation, but as always I am suspcious of people who come out of the woodwork with rapid posts.

    Funny thin is the same thing could be said about my bro, if I didn't know better, and I know he even has some things to liquidate since getting his new Monarchy stuff. :) Not sure if they will make thier way to the FM or not.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited August 2007
    I think I've found a buyer for everything, but if anything falls through I may post some items in the FM.

    Now all I need to do is post 10 more "I agree" messages in various threads! :D
    /COLOR] [U][URL="http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=68366"][COLOR="Blue"]My Rigs[/U][/COLOR][/URL] [COLOR="Red" Balanced Audio Technology | Revel | Dodd | Monarchy | PS Audio | MIT | Polk | Etc.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited August 2007
    Let me tell you now, you don't want to do that. Posting BS to get to 25 is a way of letting those who are familiar with newbies coming and going who's here to sell and run [usually w/bad ju-ju] and who's gonna become a valued member of this forum.

    Your choice.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Let me tell you now, you don't want to do that. Posting BS to get to 25 is a way of letting those who are familiar with newbies coming and going who's here to sell and run [usually w/bad ju-ju] and who's gonna become a valued member of this forum.

    Your choice.

    Easy there Treitz, blakeh is my brother and he is just now posting as he's been a regular lurker here for a few years. My post and his post were meant to be tounge-in-cheek. :D

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited August 2007
    treitz3: I was kidding -- hence the ':D '. It was meant as a joke. I've been reading this forum for years and know exactly how people feel about "me too" and "I agree" messages just to boost a message count.

    No worries! :)
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited August 2007
    Don't I feel like the horses ****.

    Sorry, didn't recognize the name. Thought it was.......well, you know. If I haven't already welcomed you blakeh, welcome!

    Now back to our regularly scheduled program..............
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Don't I feel like the horses ****.

    Sorry, didn't recognize the name. Thought it was.......well, you know. If I haven't already welcomed you blakeh, welcome!

    Now back to our regularly scheduled program..............

    No harm it's all good :cool:

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited August 2007
    daveyg2 wrote: »
    When you use cheap crap they dont matter. For everyone else of course they matter. Can change the entire systems sound right away. i have cables that are very very dark sounding, some that are bright. You hear it right away. Try using good cables and see the difference. If not then dont comment on things you dont know about.

    This is a real quick way to get a sore **** around here.....:eek: :D
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited August 2007
    daveyg2 wrote: »
    When you use cheap crap they dont matter. For everyone else of course they matter. Can change the entire systems sound right away. i have cables that are very very dark sounding, some that are bright. You hear it right away. Try using good cables and see the difference. If not then dont comment on things you dont know about.

    Schooled again eh shack??

    Needed a good chuckle before hitting the sack.:)
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2007
    tonyb wrote: »
    Schooled again eh shack??


    Yep, he really put me in my place. :rolleyes: Based on his admonition I'm going to swap out my all grey patchcords that came in the box for the red and white pair I bought at K-mart. I'll do a DBX test to see which one is better. Then maybe I can comment on cables.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited August 2007
    Oh goody,can't wait for the review:rolleyes:
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited August 2007
    Oh Joy! I eagerly await your report!:D
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2007
    OK. I've finished. One pair of cables sounded really bad. The other sounded worse. So cables REALLY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

    Has anyone had experience with the patchcord that has the extra "yellow" connector? An audiophile I know swears that the extra cable absorbs the bad ion sound waves and really improves stuff. He running Bose® cubes with a great big receiver so I really think he knows his audio.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited August 2007
    I don't mean to school you here, but everyone knows that the yellow cable is ground. Plug it into the little hole below the two prong openings in your wall outlet and be prepared to be amazed! Music needs to be well grounded or it begins to float away. :rolleyes: :D
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2007
    blakeh wrote: »
    I don't mean to school you here, but everyone knows that the yellow cable is ground. Plug it into the little hole below the two prong openings in your wall outlet and be prepared to be amazed! Music needs to be well grounded or it begins to float away. :rolleyes: :D

    WHO KNEW! This is exactly why I come to this forum. So much information from really knowledgable folks.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited August 2007
    So you mean cables make your system sound bad, and others make it sound even worse?:eek: :eek: :eek:

    So what do you use to make your system sound good?;) :p:D

    shack wrote: »
    OK. I've finished. One pair of cables sounded really bad. The other sounded worse. So cables REALLY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

    Has anyone had experience with the patchcord that has the extra "yellow" connector? An audiophile I know swears that the extra cable absorbs the bad ion sound waves and really improves stuff. He running Bose® cubes with a great big receiver so I really think he knows his audio.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2007
    cfrizz wrote: »
    So you mean cables make your system sound bad, and others make it sound even worse?:eek: :eek: :eek:

    So what do you use to make your system sound good?;) :p:D

    See post #24

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=675535&postcount=24
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited August 2007
    Cool! So it would be along the lines of a psychic dibs right?:D

    shack wrote: »
    See post #24

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=675535&postcount=24
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2007
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Cool! So it would be along the lines of a psychic dibs right?:D


    Well of course :rolleyes: ...(since I originated that as well)
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited August 2007
    Snort...You rule Shack!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • ddsski
    ddsski Posts: 50
    edited August 2007
    I think at this level, the drugs are FAR more important IYKWIM
    The MAINE System
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    2 Carver M200t's biamped, Adcom GFA 7000
    Pioneer DV-46A, Lightspeed
    Polk LSi 15's, PMC DB1+C, Polk LSi7, Sunfire True Sub II
    Samsung HP-T1254 42in Plasma
    Kubala Sosna Center wiring, DAO Kubala Sosna , Apature & Monster HDMI's

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    Marantz AV7005
    MacIntosh MC352, Marantz MM7705w/Sig. upgrade
    Polk LSi15's, Golden Ear Technologies Sat 50's & 50C
    Kubala Sosna Speaker wire, Audioquest interconnects and assorted other goodies
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited August 2007
    ddsski wrote: »
    I think at this level, the drugs are FAR more important IYKWIM

    WTF???
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2007
    ddsski wrote: »
    I think at this level, the drugs are FAR more important IYKWIM

    Apparently you practice what you preach, IYKWIM (if you know what I mean)
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,017
    edited August 2007
    See this is why I don't use cables, I run everything on 500Mhz, the only time I get crap is when we use the microwave, the phone rings or someone in the area uses their wireless router or when the constuction trucks come by, which doesn't bother me being in a new development and lots of houses going up, you get accustomed to it! ;)
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,017
    edited August 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    I moved my system around and ended up wanting to try my turntable a little further away from the preamp. I added a 1 foot extention cable. Man, it sounded like crap! Not just a little different. I guess at those .2mv levels even a slight change gets very dramatic. I have a lot more respect for turntable cables now!
    madmax

    Now when you say 1ft extension cable, the new cable was 1 ft longer or you added a foot to the existing cable ?
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2007
    Willow wrote: »
    Now when you say 1ft extension cable, the new cable was 1 ft longer or you added a foot to the existing cable ?

    Original cable + rca barrel connector + 1' interconnect.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,017
    edited August 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    Original cable + rca barrel connector + 1' interconnect.
    madmax


    Right ok I see. thanks. Now I know how you came to this conclusion I could see it being an issue !
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