Exploded Rifle

Demiurge
Demiurge Posts: 10,874
edited April 2007 in The Clubhouse
Here's a mistake you only need to make once.

Shiny new, high-powered deer rifle.............. $1200.00
Quality, high-powered scope........................ $ 550.00
Bore sighting device..................................... $ 140.00

Forgetting to remove the bore sighting device prior to shooting? Priceless!

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Thank God it wasn't mine! :)
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2007
    You know... they tried to do this on Mythbusters for an entire episode, and NEVER got a gun (though I think they exclusively used shotguns) to peel back like that, even after WELDING the end closed and purposefully weakening the barrel.

    So I meet this picture with a bit of skepticism. :D
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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited April 2007
    So how did the shooter make out in this?
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    You know... they tried to do this on Mythbusters for an entire episode, and NEVER got a gun (though I think they exclusively used shotguns) to peel back like that, even after WELDING the end closed and purposefully weakening the barrel.

    So I meet this picture with a bit of skepticism. :D

    Yep, I know that they couldn't do it, but apparently :rolleyes: it's legit. Some guy posted it over at THR. Appears to be confirmed by some there. If it's a scam, a bunch of members there in good standing are in on it.
  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2007
    I think it's cool regardless :D
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2007
    So they are tying to tell us that the material that has the least strength in that equation is the gun barrel...which starts out made from a solid rod of high alloy Chrome Molybdenum steel with a tensile strength in excess of 100,000 lb per square inch (which are designed with greater strength than the shotgun barrel Mythbusters were testing). They want everyone to believe that barrel will be split before the bore sighting device is detroyed and forced out. I don't thik so. Hoax!
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited April 2007
    agreed, hoax. I watched that mythbusters (pretty good show if there isn't much else on, BTW) and they didn't get results that were anything like that. No way would the barrel peel back that much, even if it did give away.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,815
    edited April 2007
    I don't buy it. Its too clean, too perfect. Four equal clean splits? No way.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2007
    I don't believe this either.

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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited April 2007
    Well met Demi:D
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2007
    Well met Demi:D


    Yes, thank you, think I'll go buy a zoot suit now.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    edited April 2007
    On Mythbusters they used a couple rifles as well as shot guns and they just couldn't get it to do it like the pic. The used and old Calvary rifle and it somewhat exploded the barrel but that was because the material used way back then was very weak compared to today's material.

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  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited April 2007
    It could be true.
    We had a guy in the race shop who loaded his own "wildcat" loads" one time misread the gram scale and exploded a rifle so bad that the wood stock splintered into his face and shoulder.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2007
    I don't think anyone questions whether a rifle can explode, but rather can it explode LIKE THAT, or anything even resembling that.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited April 2007
    It wouldn't be that perfect. At best it qould have bulged and cracked the barrel. The barrels are designed to handle all of the pressure from a normal load contained within the barrel (worst case scenario) with no chance of injury. Readalot: Was it the barrel or chamber that blew up? My guess is something in the chamber blew.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2007
    Wait, was the guy's name Elmer Fudd? In which case I retract any objections.
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  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited April 2007
    I didn't get to see it jd but you are probably right on with your guess.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    fake!
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2007
    read-alot wrote: »
    It could be true.
    We had a guy in the race shop who loaded his own "wildcat" loads" one time misread the gram scale and exploded a rifle so bad that the wood stock splintered into his face and shoulder.

    That's what they're claiming. Not factory loads. Which I doubt MB was messing with.

    Either way, knowing the cost of that rifle, it's one hell of an expensive stunt.

    Having been around firearms for a very long time it is possible. The perfect look of the split is what's questionable for me. A number of things would have need to be exactly right, or wrong, as it were.
  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited April 2007
    Did they say who made the rifle?
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Wait, was the guy's name Elmer Fudd? In which case I retract any objections.

    Yeah...but that only works if Bugs sticks his finger in the barrel...not some bore sighting device! :rolleyes:
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  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited April 2007
    Looking at the way the bore sight peeled before it left the barrel it very possible could be true.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2007
    Or ties the barrel in a bow.....


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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    There is no way that barrel banana peeled all the way back like that. I don't care if they were using triple loads in an aluminum barrel. When a barrel goes bad it just has a bulge, and a split in it. Even Damascus barrels don't "explode", they just separate. When there is a crack in the barrel the explosive gasses just vent out where it first split.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited April 2007
    c'mon fellas. it's easy to solve what happened here. it was cut with a saw. notice the barrel only splinters up the the stock and no further. you tellin' me the wood stock offers up that much reinforcement for the barrel to bring the rip to a stop?

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  • Nisqually Dave
    Nisqually Dave Posts: 220
    edited April 2007
    This happens all the time, I have witnessed and I have been hit with shrapnel from this and still bare the scars from a shotgun blowing up. I have shot competition rifle and shotgun and 1000 yard benchrest where everything is pushed to the limit.

    I saw mythbusters also and they just didn't do the right thing to get it to happen.


    I have a friend who's shotgun blew up and got me, he had to have three fingers sewn back on. He still does not have full use of that hand.

    As for the barrel split to where the barrel meets the stock that is exactly how most will split. I have also seen them split almost all the way back to the action. And I have seen them blown out the side and with some where they blew straight back and sheered the locking lugs.

    Each barrel is tested and rated to certain pressures and has nothing to do with Size of the bullet Like a 45/70 at 19,000 lbs of pressure to a 223 (24 Caliber bullet) at 54,000 Pounds of pressure in the barrel.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited April 2007
    split that 'perfectly'? ........

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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited April 2007

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  • read-alot
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    edited April 2007
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited April 2007
    I would have thought the bore sight tool would have just shot out. Thats crazy.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2007
    I definitely stand corrected on this one.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.