Lead Shot for Speaker Stands

dane_peterson
dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
edited March 2007 in Speakers
Where can I buy this stuff? My stands will be arriving on Thursday, as well as my ebony LSi9s, and I want to do it the right way first.

Also, I've heard stuff about some blue putty or something like that to brace the speakers to the stands. What is the correct name, and where can I find that?

Thanks for the help.
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  • wwblevins
    wwblevins Posts: 12
    edited February 2007
    Any good sporting goods store like Dick's, or any gun shop that sells reloading supplies. Don't be afraid to handle the shot, just wash your hands afterwards before you make your self a sandwich. As far as attaching a satellite to a stand, I use proper fasteners. A nice allen-head 1/4-20 machine screw from underneath the the stand up into a 6-prong T-nut inside the speaker cabinet. It's easy and it's not "mickey mouse". No worries about someone knocking it off at a party.
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited February 2007
    I got small gauge steel shot. It’s not as heavy, but if you spill it, you don’t have to worry about poisoning any kids....

    http://precisionreloading.com/
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,904
    edited February 2007
    you can also get the lead shot at some shooting ranges.
    you can get the "blue tac" at office supply stores i think it is called poster putty and it may not be blue but it will be under $3.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2007
    sickicw wrote:
    I got small gauge steel shot. It’s not as heavy, but if you spill it, you don’t have to worry about poisoning any kids....

    http://precisionreloading.com/

    Funny but true.

    When I was setting up for MD Polkfest I had one leg of my 2CH rack pop open and shoot 30lbs of lead shot all over the living room. It was a PITA.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited February 2007
    Thanks guys. Got the info I need! (as usual)
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2007
    An easier solution might be Non Odor Kitty litter, I use it in the bases of my Totem speakers and it was recommended to me from Vince.
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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited February 2007
    LuSh wrote:
    An easier solution might be Non Odor Kitty litter, I use it in the bases of my Totem speakers and it was recommended to me from Vince.

    Can anyone else speak on this? I was under the assumption that lead shot was preferred partly because it is heavy in comparison to other grains (per cubic foot).
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2007
    I've heard of that method before and there's nothing wrong with it. It's completely up to you but I prefer shot.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2007
    I used #9 lead shot. Its smaller size allowed it to fill every nook and cranny of the racks I use. When you strike the rack with a metal object you hear a very very dull thud. When I first started filling the rack, I spilt quite a bit and used me trusty Orek vacuum cleaner and cannister and it came right up out of the rug. I simply poured it out of the bag and reused it. I washed my hands not because I was afraid of lead poisoning but because they were dirty.

    Whatever you do DON'T USE SAND!!! This stuff is a nightmare it attracts moisture and then turns moldy and mildewy. It is also a pain in the butt to use and keep. If you've ever been to the beach you know what a house on the beach is like. . . an endless piece of sandpaper.
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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited February 2007
    Thanks for the tip, Joe.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2007
    Anytime Bro.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2007
    I've found that undergarments of recently "liberated" local hitchhikers provide tighter bass and a deeper soundstage.....but that's just me.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited February 2007
    That so? Well, thank you for that tip as well, sir. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
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  • TN_Polk_Lover
    TN_Polk_Lover Posts: 243
    edited February 2007
    You can order "Blu-tack" from audioadvisor.com. I ordered some. I don't know if it is any different or better than the white colored stuff that you can buy at any office supply store for sticking posters to the wall.
    Robert
    zombie boy 2000 wrote:
    You are officially in the high-end of the deep-end of the top-end.

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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited March 2007
    Well guys, my stands came today. Purchased the Target FS 28" models. Quite a solid design! After adding 25lbs of leadshot to each one, they were that much more solid. One 25lb bag nearly filled the poles. I have maybe 2-3" left on all four pillars. Do you guys recommend I top it off with something, or should they be fine the way they are?

    I'm glad I picked the 28" over the 24". The tweeters are RIGHT at ear level. :D
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited March 2007
    I too have been looking into speak stands...

    I think that I will try the ones that Polk is selling on thier website (Sanus Ultimate Foundations)..

    Ley us know how you like them, and shoot some pic`s if ya get the chance..

    blue-tak from AA like stated before...
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    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited March 2007
    dane_peterson wrote:
    Well guys, my stands came today. Purchased the Target FS 28" models. Quite a solid design! After adding 25lbs of leadshot to each one, they were that much more solid. One 25lb bag nearly filled the poles. I have maybe 2-3" left on all four pillars. Do you guys recommend I top it off with something, or should they be fine the way they are?

    I'm glad I picked the 28" over the 24". The tweeters are RIGHT at ear level. :D

    Dane, I filled my all the way to the top with shot. When I tap the rack with a screw driver or some other metal object a get a very dull, faint, thud. You can get some sorbothane pods from the Tweak Shop (they are called "Black Holes") for $5 apiece and stuff them in there if you don't want to spring for more shot.
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  • TN_Polk_Lover
    TN_Polk_Lover Posts: 243
    edited March 2007
    In my living room I have Sanus Natural Foundation Speaker stands in Cherry finish. I have my Polk RTi38, also Cherry finish, on them. They aren't the sturdiest stands in the world, but the WAF is very high. They look very nice in the living room.

    I also have a pair of Sanus Steel Foundations that I'm not using right now. They are sitting in my garage at the moment. They are very sturdy. I ordered them from Audio Advisor just going by the picture in the AA catalog. I really didn't think they would be that sturdy, but I was pleasantly surprised. The curved piece of steel that forms that base is much thicker and heavier gauge that it appears in the picture. Also, the posts are heavy and sturdy. The finish is also very nice, a heavy coat of crinkle finish black paint. I bought them to use at work, but my company got reorganized and I was forced to move to a different building. I lost my nice office with a window and now sit in a 6' X 6' cubicle in "cubicle rat land". So, no more listening at work except through earbud headphones occasionally.
    Robert
    zombie boy 2000 wrote:
    You are officially in the high-end of the deep-end of the top-end.

    Bonus Room Over Garage:
    Toshiba 27" CRT TV
    Digital Source: Sony DVP-NS3100ES
    DVR: Panasonic DMR-ES15
    Denon 3806 AV Receiver
    - L/R Preamp out to Parasound HCA-1200 Amp
    Polk RTi70's, CSi40 Center, RTi38 Side Surrounds, RTi38 Back Surrounds

    Living Room: (2ch only)
    TV: Sony KV20-FV12
    DVD Player: Sony DVP-NS715P
    Yamaha R9 Receiver Polk RTi38's
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  • TN_Polk_Lover
    TN_Polk_Lover Posts: 243
    edited March 2007
    Forgot to mention. I got a new Audio Advisor catalog in the mail and they had something new I had not seen before. It looks similar to lead shot but is made of stainless steel. It is called "Apollo Sound Bytes". I could not find them on their website, maybe they haven't updated it yet. I even tried searching on "APOLLOBYTE" which is the product code in the catalog, but it said "Not found". The catalog price is $49.00 for a 22 lb. container or $85.00 for a 44 lb container.
    Robert
    zombie boy 2000 wrote:
    You are officially in the high-end of the deep-end of the top-end.

    Bonus Room Over Garage:
    Toshiba 27" CRT TV
    Digital Source: Sony DVP-NS3100ES
    DVR: Panasonic DMR-ES15
    Denon 3806 AV Receiver
    - L/R Preamp out to Parasound HCA-1200 Amp
    Polk RTi70's, CSi40 Center, RTi38 Side Surrounds, RTi38 Back Surrounds

    Living Room: (2ch only)
    TV: Sony KV20-FV12
    DVD Player: Sony DVP-NS715P
    Yamaha R9 Receiver Polk RTi38's
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,623
    edited March 2007
    Dane, I live in the same neck of the woods as you and bought the lead shot for my speakers fro Gander mountain in Lakeville, they sell it in 25 lb bags.
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  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited March 2007
    I've got a set of Target HR24's, which are supposed to "reference" quality stands. I haven't filled them will lead shot yet, as I haven't set up the system in the living room, but they wil be used soon. Here are the ones I bought: http://www.audio-direct.com/item.aspx?ItemID=c567c34d-d349-4768-890c-8ac2ae9a34dc&origin=desc

    The better picture of them is at audioadvisor: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TGMR

    If I had more of a market for speaker stands, I would just get set up with Target's distributor, so if there are more than 2-3 of you that want some, let me know and i can look into it more.
    Tschüss
    Zach
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  • G-2
    G-2 Posts: 533
    edited March 2007
    Hi Dane, we've got a pair of Sanus UF's and they recommend shot in their paperwork which comes with the stands. These stands with the LSi9's on them are some of the sturdiest stands we've ever experienced! Good luck and enjoy!
    Home Theater
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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited March 2007
    Polkitup2 wrote:
    Dane, I live in the same neck of the woods as you and bought the lead shot for my speakers fro Gander mountain in Lakeville, they sell it in 25 lb bags.

    That's where I ended up getting my leadshot. Can't believe how expensive it is!
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2007
    Congrats Dane. The cost of the shot (IMO) outweights the sound improvement. I have all 5 stands filled to the brim.
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2007
    The new sound bytes stuff looks like steel shot at several times the price you can buy it at the shooting supplies store! Of course it will be audiophile quality, probably spit on by Ray Kimber to make it official!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2007
    dane_peterson wrote:
    That's where I ended up getting my leadshot. Can't believe how expensive it is!
    So what are you folks paying in the USA for a 25 lb bag?
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited March 2007
    I think mine was $28.88/bag. I guess it's not that bad... but more than I anticipated.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2007
    About the same in Canada, maybe a few $ cheaper.
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited March 2007
    janmike wrote:
    So what are you folks paying in the USA for a 25 lb bag?

    $45 for two 25 lb bags.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2007
    $20/bag.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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