American Idol Season 5

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  • krabby5
    krabby5 Posts: 923
    edited May 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Meh, there was a lot of criticism going into last night about how you can juxtapose a night of charity with a night of booting someone off, so I think it was more in response to that than in response to who got voted off. There have been plenty of seasons where the "best" was kicked off before the finals. Hell, even last year. Between Taylor Hicks and Katherine McPhee? I'll choose no one, thanks.

    Chris Daughtry anyone? didn't he finish 4th...

    I'm guessing he is the one laughing all the way to the bank now..
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  • krabby5
    krabby5 Posts: 923
    edited May 2007
    MrNightly wrote: »
    No, Melinda had a good voice. And I don't have a thing wrong with my hearing... and my opinion is backed by a professionally trained vocalist who lives in my house... Jordin continually went off key, and had poor control of her voice... that's why I'm surprised she won. Never once, in all the songs I've heard her sing, did she blow me away...

    But to each their own... and that is my humble but deadly accurate opinion... :D

    They'll make her sound good in the studio...the rest is all image nowadays
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    I had forgotten that Jordin was voted off. Double BS!!!!


    That was done only for marketing purposes -- to get people to watch the show. I'm sure the producers selected her to be the winner several weeks ago.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited May 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    That was done only for marketing purposes -- to get people to watch the show. I'm sure the producers selected her to be the winner several weeks ago.

    Yup, she "Fit the suit." Less talented, but fit the suit...
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited May 2007
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    I had forgotten that Jordin was voted off. Double BS!!!!

    Me too! Triple BS!!:eek:
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited May 2007
    They never said Jordin was voted off or that she was the least vote getter. She was just the last one to be told she was safe.

    I didn't watch that episode live, I had it on DVR, so I actually read everyone's comments about how they couldn't believe JOrdin was the lowest points-getter before actually watching the episode. If you actually watch the episode, they never say who got what points. They just tell everyone, in some order, that they're safe. So you can't assume that just because she was told last that she would have been voted off. Just sayin'.

    While I agree that the producers have favorites and do everything they can to skew the results in their favor, they still can't make up the results. There's no way they wanted Taylor to win last year, the guy is a complete flop
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited May 2007
    I guess that makes sense. But wasn't she in the bottom "two" for a fair amount of weeks?
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  • krabby5
    krabby5 Posts: 923
    edited May 2007
    MrNightly wrote: »
    Yup, she "Fit the suit." Less talented, but fit the suit...

    Johnny Bravo?:D
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited May 2007
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    I had forgotten that Jordin was voted off. Double BS!!!!

    When did this happen? Charity night, did they say Jordin had the least amount of votes? Or are you assuming that since she was the last that night to go up to Ryan and "not get sent hime" that she had the least amount of votes?

    TO be clear, did they say she had the least amount of votes?
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited May 2007
    According to Bobman... no. So I guess I assumed wrong:p I think she had been straggling in the bottom two the previous episodes, so I made the leap. I don't think I was the only one, though.

    This is how rumors get started:D
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited May 2007
    MrNightly wrote: »
    No, Melinda had a good voice. And I don't have a thing wrong with my hearing... and my opinion is backed by a professionally trained vocalist who lives in my house... Jordin continually went off key, and had poor control of her voice... that's why I'm surprised she won. Never once, in all the songs I've heard her sing, did she blow me away...

    But to each their own... and that is my humble but deadly accurate opinion... :D


    Actually, I think this just proved that your sound system sucks and it's time to upgrade! ;)

    Also, how many contestants on the show were there because their "professional" vocal coach said they were "awesome"? At least what? 10-12 every run through of the tryouts?

    And uhh, WTH is up with that link you posted?
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited May 2007
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    Actually, I think this just proved that your sound system sucks and it's time to upgrade! ;)

    Also, how many contestants on the show were there because their "professional" vocal coach said they were "awesome"? At least what? 10-12 every run through of the tryouts?

    And uhh, WTH is up with that link you posted?

    What was wrong with the link? Works just fine for me... just a different perspective that I thought was well said and to the point.

    Regarding the upgrade... I'll get on that as soon as the funds start rollilng in... but thanks for the reminder... :p
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited May 2007
    Generally a site called "queersighted.com" gets IT people all in a tizzy. Ended up getting dropped to the IT dept...
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited May 2007
    Ah, got ya.

    Didn't think about that. Should have possibly said, NSFW. We'll see if I get booted as well ;)

    Besides that, it's just a **** guy writing it... from a different perspective... anyways.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    While I agree that the producers have favorites and do everything they can to skew the results in their favor, they still can't make up the results.

    Yes, the producers can make up whatever results they desire. That's what producers do -- produce results.

    Let's face it -- Clive Davis determines the winner each year. The audience has little say in the matter. This year, Jordin simply has more long term money making potential than Blake. The beat box routine is old and stale.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited May 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    Yes, the producers can make up whatever results they desire. That's what producers do -- produce results.

    Let's face it -- Clive Davis determines the winner each year. The audience has little say in the matter. This year, Jordin simply has more long term money making potential than Blake. The beat box routine is old and stale.

    That's blatantly not true. Listen, I'm not one to say that reality TV doesn't lie - I'm not as stupid as I look, sound, or act - but this whole "Idol completely fabricates the results" agenda that you and your ilk love to tout is blatantly ludicrous. If it were true, huge bombs like Taylor Hicks wouldn't win. Clive Davis and his minions didn't become rich by being blind to what sells. I don't think there was a person in America who thought that Taylor Hicks was a marketable entity. So why did he win last year? Idol could have made way more money off of half a dozen contestants that season. He won because America is stupid, and voted for him.

    Millions of dollars go into these shows, so I have no doubt that Idol uses all of their marketing and persuasive genius to try and push for and trick people into liking whatever contestant they find most marketable, but in the end.... I still think there's real votes.

    Besides, by your logic, what would the producers have to gain by making up results? Isn't Idol essentially a popularity contest? And... doesn't popularity (shown by voting) predict popularity in the marketplace? It's like a 30 million person focus group.
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  • m00npie
    m00npie Posts: 697
    edited May 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    He won because America is stupid, and voted for him.

    Someone from MA making this statement does not surprise me the least bit. You basically called everyone on this forum from the USA stupid. I'll assume you meant only those that voted for him but you need to refrain from making senseless general statements like that for those of us that have had it with anyone that has nothing good to say about this country.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited May 2007
    Ha! I totally didn't mean it that way, chief. I only meant in the context of American Idol (or the general state of modern music) not in general.
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  • m00npie
    m00npie Posts: 697
    edited May 2007
    I assumed that... sorry for the de-rail. I'm so cranky on travel days.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited May 2007
    Jordan was never booted off. She completely ROCKED the night before and they used her as "shock value" since we all know that Chris sucked dirty goat balls so they wanted to give everyone a little "WTF???"
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  • bamamusicfan
    bamamusicfan Posts: 25
    edited June 2007
    Haley - Her legs get my vote!
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  • icky4
    icky4 Posts: 27
    edited June 2007
    bamamusicfan wrote: »
    Haley - Her legs get my vote!


    LOL! Simon is always dead on with his comments! Did you notice how she wore something skimpy AGAIN right after he said that?
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