Who is moving to Vista?

POLKOHOLIC

everyone will move to vista...its just a matter of time. when XP first came out - there were countless people saying they will never upgrade from 98. look what everyone is using now.

the thing is...new PC's will now ship with Vista installed and soon everything will be Vista compatible. My guess is the majority of PC users will use Vista by late-2008 and microsoft will start to phase out windows xp by mid-2009. software/hardware compatibility will start to decline for windows XP and increase for Vista by mid 2009 and by 2010 windows XP will be used primarily by non-computer savvy folk.

Demiurge

Bill Gates issued a press release this afternoon that he would not start using Windows Vista on his personal computers until all of the bugs were worked out.

Roy Munson

I bought a new Dell PC about two months ago that came with XP Home Media Ed. I get a free upgrade to Vista Premium for $10.00 shipping and handling when it's available. So I may or may not put it on the new computer, I haven't decided yet. The point someone made about most people switching to Vista in the next couple of years is probably correct as was mentioned most new PC's will ship with some form of Vista.

IanD

Min 1 SP before I even think of changing. Did enough dancing when XP was first released upon the unsuspecting masses.

ben62670

Stay away stay far away. Whenever a new OS comes out you the consumer has to basically bata test it for Microsoft. There are just way to many different combinations of software and hardware for Microsoft to get all the bugs out before releasing it. With new OS's there are many issues with supporting different hardware. Some of the stuff you have now may not work with Vista. Computers that run great with XP can be serious dogs with Vista, and for the security crap that comes with Vista it asks you 3 times nearly every time you go to change something. Wait a year for the bugs to get worked out, and the hardware to get better.
Ben
Owner of a Computer Repair and Networking company

izafar

This link http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/ has a comparison between XP and Vista using a variety of applications, it is interesting to see that most apps run slower on VISTA. So I will hold off until apps specifically tuned for vista comes into market.

DarqueKnight

PolkWannabie wrote:

Personally I don't want to be on the bleeding edge of O/S's

Using any Microsoft O/S assures you of that.;)

Linux Lover

TroyD

What sort of power tube is this bad boy going to run? 6550's ? EL34?

BDT

TennesseeOutlaw

Out of all the various Windows aplications currently sold publicly, the only one(s) that I would consider for a home application would probably be Windows '95 & '98... Windows 2000, Millenium, XP, and +++ have too many "UN"fixes and undeniable problems.. Fix what the HELL is already wrong, or give it the 'EFF up and go on.. Every Windows OS has increasing gotten worse and worse.. Is there a point in which we all say, "It's time to go MAC!!!"

hearingimpared

Shizelbs wrote:

Windows Vista comes out tomorrow I think. Who will be getting it and what version will you be purchasing?

I will certainly be getting it, and when I do it will be the Ultimate version.

However, its going to be a while before I do. I need to build another computer before I can think about installing it and my current computer still has some life in it. I will be going balls-out when I do upgrade though.

I'm getting a free copy from Microsoft. . . it was a promotion for the E-machine I just purchased. Imost likely will be selling it . . . I WILL NEVER INSTALL A NEW MS OS RELEASE!!!

disneyjoe7

I don't plan to ever change from XP home or Pro anytime soon.

audiobliss

hearingimpared wrote:

I WILL NEVER INSTALL A NEW MS OS RELEASE!!!

Why? Couldn't be worse than having to use an E-Machine.

hearingimpared

audiobliss wrote:

Why? Couldn't be worse than having to use an E-Machine.

Naa I disagree. . . I bought an E-machine in 1998 and it just now took a dump, it was a good upgradable PC. That is why I have a new one. After I fix the video problem it has the little guy will be getting it for school work ONLY.

Demiurge

disneyjoe7 wrote:

I don't plan to ever change from XP home or Pro anytime soon.

Unfortunately you won't have much of a choice in a few years. So if never is a few years, I'm with ya.

disneyjoe7

Demiurge wrote:

Unfortunately you won't have much of a choice in a few years. So if never is a few years, I'm with ya.

Well I agree when new software comes out newer computers will be built around it. newer software will be made for it. Old OS will bog down with newer software, hardware will not like the OS system and we all start again. Sad but true. Does anyone wish to run win 3.1 again on a 286 / 386 / 486 PC would you dear to run XP on it? Just last week I trashed a Pent 2 - 400mhz machine because to mother board had 16 meg ram would see a 512 stick and I wondered just what it would see ok 64meg / 128meg???? F it trash it.

Fireman32

I will not be upgrading for a while. Service pack 1 is already in testing to try to fix all of the bugs it has. I will wait at least a year and let the price drop a bit.

ledhed

TennesseeOutlaw wrote:

Out of all the various Windows aplications currently sold publicly, the only one(s) that I would consider for a home application would probably be Windows '95 & '98... Windows 2000, Millenium, XP, and +++ have too many "UN"fixes and undeniable problems.. Fix what the HELL is already wrong, or give it the 'EFF up and go on.. Every Windows OS has increasing gotten worse and worse.. Is there a point in which we all say, "It's time to go MAC!!!"

I would have to be severely beaten to stay with 95/98. 2000 and up (not including ME) are based on NT architecture and are thus much more secure and smoother running. The 95/98/ME jump to 2000/XP is almost as big as the 3.X to 95 jump.

Rivrrat

I'll be getting Vista when I get a new puter, and that's not anytime soon.

PolkWannabie

ledhed wrote:

The 95/98/ME jump to 2000/XP is almost as big as the 3.X to 95 jump.

3.x actually worked for more then 15-20 minutes at a time ... 95/98/ME were a joke ...

danger boy

Win ME was the biggest joke of all. i think MS released it as a joke.. and it wasn't really suppose to be useable. and frankly.. it never worked right, ever.

danger boy

I wonder how many people got it at midnight tonight.. and are STILL up right now loading it up on the computers? How many of them are having problems with it? LOL

How many people are going to be up all night getting it to work right?

markmarc

Micro$oft is notorious for shipping new software that needs another year of beta testing. Remember XP, ME, 98; those were all disasters until the service pack updates came out at least a year to 18 months later. (Ok, ME never came out of it's coma).

The second problem with Vista is that like all OS overhauls, it needs vastly more powerful resources, and at least a gig of memory to be semi speedy.

disneyjoe7

markmarc wrote:

like all OS overhauls, it needs vastly more powerful resources, and at least a gig of memory to be semi speedy.

When we the public say enough is enough. What we have works, or we know you can debug it to improve it.

Deadof_knight

The deal at walmart is a deal not a speed demon by any means but after building multiple computers and upgrading money spent I would only build one computer and buy the rest at sams or walmart or dell . Instantly putting more ram in them then turn them loose and enjoy them instead of work on them.

I have a disc of every windows os to date with secondary upgrade discs. I would wait to upgrade to vista but if buying a new computer I would get on the wagon

Sami

I just finally configured a Wi-Fi card on my main machine running x64 XP. I had to go through all my 11G card to see if one of them had a chipset that had x64 drivers for. Finally found one that had RaLink 2500 chipset on it, and it was the cheapest card of them all, an Airlink101.

I am sure Vista will have much better driver support than x64 but be aware that all of your hardware might not work with Vista right away. When I tested Vista (RC1) it was still very immature product, missing a lot of drivers and compatible software. No doubt it is better now but do some research first if you have any 3rd party software that MUST work on the machine.

shack

I was considering a new desktop. I always buy Dell. EVERYTHING they sell now has Vista loaded in. I really don't want to go with Vista until the bugs are worked out. I went throught that crap with ME and swore never again to get the latest, greatest until there was plenty of real world info. I guess I could get one and add XP Pro after I get it, but that seems like a waste.

disneyjoe7

My only concern is if Dell as some special driver built in Vista reinstall disk, you may have an issue with XP pro because something isn't working right. Maybe you are cool, but maybe not.

jmwest1970

disneyjoe7 wrote:

My only concern is if Dell as some special driver built in Vista reinstall disk, you may have an issue with XP pro because something isn't working right. Maybe you are cool, but maybe not.

Dell keeps drivers for older models with older OS compatibility available for download. You won't have to worry about that for quite awhile.

disneyjoe7

jmwest1970 wrote:

Dell keeps drivers for older models with older OS compatibility available for download. You won't have to worry about that for quite awhile.

I did an US Robotics modem, driver issue couldn't get the driver from Dell website. Any driver from USR which had a different # to it as these must have been retail versions vs. OEM versions. In the end couldn't get the modem to work again without getting a new one.

It was a work computer so I called Dell and was told I needed to call a # that would cost X for the first 5min then Y for anything above it. Nice customer service, in the end less frustrating too just replace it. The computer in question was less then 2 years old.

BobMcG

Nope.

I was a beta tester for Win 98 years ago. It was a nightmare (many hours, day after day on the phone with MS). It took a long time for MS to begin to get it sorted out, and that's after it's (second) release.

Not too long ago I was in on the beta program for IE 7.0 when it still had growing problems. It's much better now, but that's not the same thing as a whole new OS. For me? I'm not spending my money right now on another unproven (IMO) OS. Going to give it some time.