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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2007
    Thats what Nyquil is for! Give em a dose or 2 of that and theyre out like lights. :D:p
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Got the H701 wired and mounted on the passenger side of the trunk. I had a real difficult time of it because I ran the AI Net cable backwards ( one end is a 90, and the other is a straight, the 90 didn't work right on the 701 side) and had to tear half the interior apart to pull it out and turn it around.

    THEN I could get no sound whatsoever out of my system. Finally found out that I had to flip a little switch on the bottom of the H.U. to "EQ."

    So I officially heard the sub and the box. Problem was I only had one mid range hooked up just to see if both amps worked, and it was mostly just all bass. Kinda needed more highs to really tell anything. Hits fairly hard for a twelve though.

    Tomorrow I will build the H701 cover, and get it wrapped, then the trunk will be finished. Sorry, no pics, the wife took off with the camera.
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2007
    Just wait. The fun part is tuning all those 5,000,000 different EQ bands, crossovers, time alignement and everything else. ;)

    Yeah, forgot to tell ya to flip that little switch on the bottom of the HU.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited February 2007
    ben62670 wrote:
    Wana trade jobs Josh


    That depends. Are you a **** star? If not, then...no.
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Well, finished up the trunk today. I made the passenger side board, and mounted/wired the H701, and two power distribution blocks. The reason for the power blocks is because the battery to the car is behind the H701 board, and if I ever want to run the trickle charger I can just pop the leather cover, and hook it up.

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    Here is the cover prior to being wrapped.

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    The main board mounted and painted up. I used the 1x2 as the support for the cover. Stapled velcro to the 1x2, and the back of the cover to hold it in place.

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    Cover installed.

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    That's it for the trunk folks! Tomorrow I will be laying the foundation glass for the kick pods, and yanking the dash pad out to mount the tweeters. Found that the tweets sound and image the best up near the windshield on the top of either side of the dash.

    Played around with angling the mids, time alignment, eq, and x-over on the 701, and OH MY GOD is that thing the BOMB. I am in love. I got the imaging about three inches above the dash, and flat all the way across.

    :D
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2007
    Looks great!!

    Yeah, there aint much you cant do with the 701!
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2007
    looks great, love the license plate
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Ok, I am at a crossroads here. I cut the rings as small as I could for the 5.25" I.D. mids because the clutch just gets SOO close to where I want to put the kick pods.

    I am afraid I don't even have room to glass them in. I need suggestions from you guys on how to go about this. Here is a picture of the ring pressed up tightly against the corner where I can get away with leaving them.

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    Now here is how close it is when I depress the clutch. Sorry i am wearing my painted up work shoes. ;)

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    It's TIGHT. Ideas?
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2007
    Yikes! That is pretty tight.

    You could cut into the sheet metal and mount them off axis (firing across at each other).
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2007
    go up higher in the kick, most of the time theres a hole there. You might not get as good as imaging, but youre not going to get great imaging with only one speaker when you smash your foot into that one
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    This blows. I have to figure something out.
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2007
    Ya got a better shot of the interior? And a shot of the kick panel area pulled back a bit would be good too. Maybe we can figure out a good place to stick those.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    I will take a bunch of pictures. Thing is, these 5.25's have HUGE magnets, and I want to get a set of the SR5250's anyway. Looks like I am going to have to sell some stuff, and get some money together for the Polks. It will give me more options because the mounting depth is more shallow.

    Gram
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Ok, I went in there and pulled the kick panel. The vent I was talking about comes out with four screws...here it is.

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    Once out, it leaves a HUGE 8" hole.

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    This would be a dream if I had a pair of 8's for subs up front. Line the back with fiberglass, dynomat it, replace the kick panels and you would never even know it was there...BUT for mids, it's awful high up under the dash...check it out.

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    I can cut away some metal, and lower it, but I hate hacking into the car like that. Thoughts? Should I just toss the speakers in there and see how they sound? Yes I should.

    Gram
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Sounds like crap. I am just going to make the darned things fit where I had them originally, and toss a pair of 6.5 or even 8" midbass in that hole. Should bring the front stage to life.
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2007
    or try a pair of 4" and put your midbasses in the door
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    because of the window regulator, and crank handle, I can fit nothing in the doors save for the stock ULTRA thin speakers.

    I think I have it to where I am going to be able to get those mids in low, and I now want to do the midbass!!
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Screw it. I am making pods for the 5" mids. Here we go.

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    Got it masked.

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    Two layers drying as we speak.

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    It's going to be tight, but I have to at least try. Really there are no options, cause the mids in that big hole under the dash sound like crap. No room in the doors, none in the dash, or a pillars...this is it.

    Wish me luck.

    Gram
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2007
    if you dont like em, you can always throw em away...
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    That was my thinking. Worth a shot.
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2007
    I say you could put them in the kicks. The hole isnt that far up and besides youd only need half of it anyway. Youre not going to put the entire speaker in there, just enough of it to clear some legroom.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Mac- I really hated the way those mids sounded off axis. They instantly became muddy and just not good.
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Trimed up the base mold...four layers total. Glued in the ring too.

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    Wrapped it, and set it in the car to make sure it still held its shape.

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    Resined it. Funny thing, I applied the resin hours ago, and it is STILL really wet. I added the same amount of hardener I have always been adding.

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    I put a light on it to try and get it to set up.

    Gram

    P.S. Found a dude selling a brand new set of I.D. 2 ohm 6.5" midbass. Guess where I will be hiding those? :D
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    The light is working...starting to set up now.
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited February 2007
    In the future, mix up more really hot and apply over the stuff that's not drying.
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Josh, can I still do that...because there are a couple places that aren't drying still. I was going to just tear the felt off and start over.

    Screws arrived yesterday, thank you so much!
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited February 2007
    Yeah, no problem. Just make sure you mix it up pretty hot.
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Thank you.
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2007
    Just like he said, everyone has that problem every now and then...I usually dont, but then again my resin has about 5 minutes until its totally hard...needless to say, I have to buy at least a couple more tubes of the catalyst.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • dolfan87
    dolfan87 Posts: 114
    edited February 2007
    Camera was with the wife again today...so the glass portion of the build got skipped. But here is the kick in primer.

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    That's it...took me all afternoon to get it glassed, raged, and in primer.
    1970 Mach 1: ///ALPINE DVA 9860 H.U and H701 processor. Image Dynamics CSX 52 components, and IDQ D4 Sub. Polk/Momo 400.4 and 500.1 amps.