Oppo with Power Cord Anyone?

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited January 2007 in Electronics
Has anyone with an Oppo replaced the flimsy stock power cord? If so, what differences did it make, if any?

Thanks.
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

"God grooves with tubes."
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited December 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Has anyone with an Oppo replaced the flimsy stock power cord? If so, what differences did it make, if any?

    Thanks.
    i read a review where the reviewer said he replaced it with a $200.00 cord from somewhere and he claimed everything pq/sq were better if that helps. But in my mind i would have a hard time paying $200.00 for a cord that will go on a $150.00 player.:eek: HAPPY NEW YEARS. SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited December 2006
    snow wrote:
    i read a review where the reviewer said he replaced it with a $200.00 cord from somewhere and he claimed everything pq/sq were better if that helps. But in my mind i would have a hard time paying $200.00 for a cord that will go on a $150.00 player.:eek: HAPPY NEW YEARS. SNOW

    Yeah, me, too.

    FWIW, I ordered a brand new PS Audio Power Punch power cord with C7 connector off Audio Advisor today for $49 shipped. I'll report back and let y'all know if it makes a difference.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited December 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    FWIW, I ordered a brand new PS Audio Power Punch power cord with C7 connector off Audio Advisor today for $49 shipped. I'll report back and let y'all know if it makes a difference.

    Audioquest also make a power cord with the C7 connector for about the same price. Audio Advisor has it as well.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    My PS Audio C7 power cable arrived today. It's 10x more substantial looking than the super cheap cord supplied with the Oppo. Gonna try it out and report back.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    Early B. wrote:
    Yeah, me, too.

    FWIW, I ordered a brand new PS Audio Power Punch power cord with C7 connector off Audio Advisor today for $49 shipped. I'll report back and let y'all know if it makes a difference.


    I've been using the Marigo tweak I told you about on my Oppo for listening to CDs and it is amazing how much better the music is. I don't mind paying for a $200 tweak that really works and makes a dramatic difference even if it being used on a $150 piece of gear.

    Edit: BTW the power cord on my Oppo is a two prong . . . can I get a good power cord with that configuration?
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    What Marigo tweak ?

    This one!:D
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    Edit: BTW the power cord on my Oppo is a two prong . . . can I get a good power cord with that configuration?

    Yeah, that's what I got. It's a C7 connector and they sell 'em at audioadvisor.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited January 2007
    This one!:D

    You tweak thief you!!!!! I'm not showing you nothing ever again. Trying to take all the credit. I got a bunch more but I ain't telling you!!! Nan a nan a boo-boo.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    You tweak thief you!!!!! I'm not showing you nothing ever again. Trying to take all the credit. I got a bunch more but I ain't telling you!!! Nan a nan a boo-boo.

    There's a full moon out tonight . . . uhhhhh no it's me bending over with my pants down!!!:D
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited January 2007
    There's a full moon out tonight . . . uhhhhh no it's me bending over with my pants down!!!:D

    Where'd I put the KY????
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited January 2007
    Early B. wrote:
    My PS Audio C7 power cable arrived today. It's 10x more substantial looking than the super cheap cord supplied with the Oppo. Gonna try it out and report back.

    I have an OPPO too. Let us know how the PC works out. I know you'll give it a good work out before you post back with your findings. Hopefully it's worth it. If it is, I'm next to get one.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    I have an OPPO too. Let us know how the PC works out. I know you'll give it a good work out before you post back with your findings. Hopefully it's worth it. If it is, I'm next to get one.

    Me too!!!

    It's amazing how all the tweaks are costing more than the player but still less than the expensive CDPs. I know I'm commiting blasphamy when I say that but what the heck my rig sounds great and I haven't even tweak it or the room up yet and I hate digital!
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2007
    This one!:D
    That thing works?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    That thing works?


    I swear by it. I first heard it at Phil's (pearsall001) and I couldn't believe my ears. I wrote about it on this post.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    OK, the power cord made a big difference so far. The HT system is definitely louder. In fact, I had to decrease the volume three notches, and I had to go into the receiver and decrease the volume on my center channel by 2 dB.

    The other distinct difference is that the sound is a bit brighter and the voices sound different (can't really describe it). It's like the DVD player is trying hard to sound clearer, but it ain't necessarily clearer. The bass is also not quite as pronounced.

    Picture Quality? Couldn't tell the difference.

    Does it sound better? Well, I dunno, but I can certainly say it's louder and different. Of course, I gotta say that I expect the cord needs to break in, yadda, yadda...

    It still amazes me the difference a freakin' power cord can make.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited January 2007
    Thanks Early. I have the 970 coming that I am just going to use exclusively as a DVD player so I think I could use a little brighter in my HT. Bass, I have plenty of in my hard surfaced room. Something I may have to look into.

    Mike
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    Louder ??? Checked with an SPL meter ?

    No, checked with my ears. I know what "loud" sounds like in my room and I know what reference settings I've been using on the receiver for the past two years.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    Early B. wrote:
    OK, the power cord made a big difference so far. The HT system is definitely louder. In fact, I had to decrease the volume three notches, and I had to go into the receiver and decrease the volume on my center channel by 2 dB.

    The other distinct difference is that the sound is a bit brighter and the voices sound different (can't really describe it). It's like the DVD player is trying hard to sound clearer, but it ain't necessarily clearer. The bass is also not quite as pronounced.

    Picture Quality? Couldn't tell the difference.

    Does it sound better? Well, I dunno, but I can certainly say it's louder and different. Of course, I gotta say that I expect the cord needs to break in, yadda, yadda...

    It still amazes me the difference a freakin' power cord can make.

    I'm one step away from buying it but I have one question for you, is it worth the money?
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    I'm one step away from buying it but I have one question for you, is it worth the money?

    I would buy it again without hesitation. I think over time it will sound better than the stock cord. That's been my experience in the past.

    I don't like weak links (i.e., cables and cords) in my system and I've always been fond of PS Audio power cords. So for $49 and free shipping, buy it.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,782
    edited January 2007
    Why would a power cord make it louder? It's not like the stock cord couldn't deliver enough amperage, the Oppo draws only 14 watts max.
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited January 2007
    Those green mats? Bought ten of them about 15 years ago and the price with shipping from Hawaii was about $15 for the bunch. Looks like the price got tweaked. Gave 8 away and kept 2.
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2007
    WilliamM2 wrote:
    Why would a power cord make it louder? It's not like the stock cord couldn't deliver enough amperage, the Oppo draws only 14 watts max.


    I'm wondering the same thing? My 981 is due tomorrow. Is the guage of the cord not big enough? Does the power cord get hot like on a Fry Daddy or something?

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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited January 2007
    WilliamM2 wrote:
    Why would a power cord make it louder? It's not like the stock cord couldn't deliver enough amperage, the Oppo draws only 14 watts max.
    While I would agree that many aspects of sound are tangible only to the ears, loudness should be able to be easily measured ... Ergo the reason why I asked if it was an objective measurement from an SPL meter ...
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    WilliamM2 wrote:
    Why would a power cord make it louder?

    I dunno. It's certainly not unusual. I've had the same thing happen before when changing out interconnects, speaker cables, and tubes.

    Hell, I'm on another forum where some guys are talking about the differences in sound from various types of wood in amp stands. Apparently, maple sounds different from mahogany. Go figure.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited January 2007
    The power of suggestion is just scary. :(
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  • louthewiz
    louthewiz Posts: 581
    edited January 2007
    :D Do those fancy power cords have the same functions as this neat gadget:

    http://www.dvdrewinder.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1


    http://www.i4u.com/article2620.html :eek:
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    Early B. wrote:
    I dunno. It's certainly not unusual. I've had the same thing happen before when changing out interconnects, speaker cables, and tubes.

    Hell, I'm on another forum where some guys are talking about the differences in sound from various types of wood in amp stands. Apparently, maple sounds different from mahogany. Go figure.

    I've seen the maple thing in other places especially Mapleshade Records. . . it all has to do with resonance. As far as cables are concerned I think if you lower the resistance a bit like by adding silver into the mix it will change what could be the upper frequencies but I'm sure the volume would increase also.

    I am for any tweak that dramatically or even decently improves the sound of my rig. A $200 tweak better improve the sound by making the component sound like the next level up or I'm sending it back. Although George may have purchased the same tweak 15 years ago for $15, that same tweak, $200 today caused me to hear a dramatically better difference in a $1500 CDP it makes the OPPO sound outstanding. If a $49 tweak makes a $149 component sound better then I have no problem buying it.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    Well, even though I use wood platforms for my CDP and pre, I don't understand why they work. Wood is used for lots of instruments. If wood sounds so good, why aren't more chassis of amps, CDPs, DACS, etc. made out of wood? Hell, why aren't more high end speakers made from real hardwood?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."