What is wrong with this forum?

dorokusai

Thanks to everyone that has posted, everyone.

I am an sarcastic **** most of the time, period...its a fact and I'm ok with it. That being said, it's not the best attitude to have when trying to help folks. Some get the "humor", some don't but I don't really care in the end. If there is diversity here, I'm on the sliding end of it

I guess what bothers me the most, and this was alluded to earlier, is the rhetoric. Fortunately, I have have been able to be here for awhile but it becomes tedious at some point, in regards to posting help and opinion.

It started to feel like CP was a job or responsibility, more than it was a casual hangout. I've become jaded here and even lashed out at friends that I've made here, regardless of whether it was a valid reason, that genuinely makes me feel bad. I have strong opinions about certain subjects that I simply don't voice anymore but I read the counter to my opinion posted all the time....and its hard not to jump off the top ropes.

I do think that some kind of intellectual "ownership" of your home forum is important because it helps you take care of it, much like this place. CP is a GREAT forum, please don't mistake my original rant for anything but real love for this place.

TroyD

I don't care if you are jaded. I still want to hump your leg.

BDT

reeltrouble1

amulford wrote:

Get a life you nerds...

And what member can name the audio nerd who has purchased more gear this year than allowed in the HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)

Just yesterday on the phone with a member, we are just bs'ing about gear and speakers we have owned, in the end it was very clear we are at heart Polkies, and will stay that way.

Hell, we got JohnK.

We got a babe thread!!!!

We even got a guy thread &*@%!!!!!!!

We just had a great Fest and the next one is well on its way and the one after that one as well.

I have seen many new members join this past year or so who really contribute with knowledge and humor. I wont name anyone cause I dont want to leave anyone out, their is a good bunch you though.

This forum just sent a loud message to a vendor who mistreated a newer member on a purchase.

If all we have to argue about is some arbitrary amount of wpc rating then do it, its a little thing, the big stuff seems to be rolling along just fine.

Cables Matter.

Tubes Rule.

I'm Staying.

RT1

SCompRacer

…..nothing that can't be fixed by the people involved in it.

You get what you accept. Merry Christmas.

Ricardo

There's only one thing wrong with this forum.

SPAM!!!!

What's up with all those **** growth threads? Xbox for $100, etc????

I don't see anything else wrong.

Merry Christmas!!!

wallstreet

Pffffft

RuSsMaN

As long as I'm here, there is no problem with the forum.

Cheers,
Russ

tommyboy

Screw you guys, the only reason I'm here is for the chance of seeing another Polk-audio-lsi. I think people like him make this forum great!;)

ohskigod wrote:

whenever I give advice or guidance, its allways with the concept of getting the most for one's money. If the budget is tiny, then one should get the best sound that wee budget can buy, hell, I still love the hell out my Rogers LS6's (200.00) hooked up to a sonic impact T amp (whopping 25.00 bucks)

Imo, this quote is the reason why people come here. A person has a budget. they know if they had more money to blow they would (usually) get a better quality product. What can they get the most out of with how much they have to spend... Thats where you guys come in.

hearingimpared

TroyD wrote:

I don't care if you are jaded. I still want to hump your leg.

BDT

I'll take the leftovers:eek:

beardog03

I have been around the forum for a while now, and have made some great friends, learned more than I thought possible, and still continue to learn.
I`m a grumpy old biker that started with a Yammie reciecer and some crapy speaks, and thought I had it goin on..!!
I found this forum by accident, never knew what a forum was, and was "taught" how to acheive nervana...(which is always just out of reach).

I only post when I know what I`m talking about because of experience, or If I have a smart a$$ comment to make...as do alot of members.
I understand how this could be more like a job than a place to hang out and discuss audio, as myself and others have dicovered that most of the "old dog`s" have been there/done that, and can give useful help and information.
It is because of the old farts that I can enjoy what I`m doing with my rig(s), and know who to turn to if I need help.
There are a few newbies that ask the same old questions, and there are some that have enough experience to give solid advise.
This forum rock`s...and my wife calls it Polk Porno because I get spend all my time here and get excited over stuff I see and read, and what little knowledge my tiny brain can absorb, I run with it..
I should spend more time with wife and family, and sometimes take a break to do so, but always find myself with the tubes warming up and polkin around the forum...
I`m a dick head...I mean addicted..:rolleyes:

I will try to step up alittle more as my experience grows, but don`t want those of you that know they can contribute to back up and just watch me shove foot to mouth...

everything goes in cycles and the forum is no exception..
Don`t let it get ya down, let it bring you up.
I should be a place to hang out and relax, and get your learn on, or just hang out and BS./.laugh

enjoy it for what it is....
I SURE AS HELL DO...:D


MERRY F`N CHRISTMAS

AND A PLASTERED NEW YEAR (AT HOME)

:cool:

polrbehr

Halo wrote:

Makes sense to me DB.

When I showed up I thought I knew what I was doing. I got put in my place fast but I didn't run away. I realized I didn't know ****. I also realized that I wanted to learn so I apologized for my behavior and I started to get my learn on (heck I'm still learning) and I think I've come a long way (in a short time) since then.

I usually don't post unless I have something to contribute. I don't read any hi-fi magazines and I don't frequent local hi-fi shops. I can only give advice if its something I've had personal hands on experience with. Otherwise I don't feel I have any business typing a response. I don't try to act PC but I try to be real and straight forward. I've been accused of being blunt but I honestly am trying to be polite and respectful because I remember what it was like to be a newb (I still am in a lot of respects). I value and respect a lot of people on this, as well as other, forum(s). And then there are some that I don't care for at all. Such is life. It doesn't mean I'm not able to contribute or learn from either group. I try to check my ego @ the door. I'm not perfect and sometimes I slip (just the way it goes).

If it weren't for the time and effort put out in one way or another by almost everyone on this forum - a few in particular - I wouldn't be where I am today in regards to this hobby (which is pretty happy ).

Am I done? No. Got a long way to go and a lot left to learn.

Whenever I step away from this forum its because I'm diggin' my stuff and I'm spending time with it instead of the computer. Plain & Simple.

Wow.
Talk about someone echoing your sentiments.
I can't add anything to this, Halo. Well said.

hearingimpared

reeltrouble1 wrote:

Cables Matter.

Tubes Rule.

I'm Staying.

RT1

Dear Mr. Tubes Rule,

Okay then let's get down to brass tacks then. I have 1.2 TLs and have been advised to go with no less than 200 wpc. I went with 300 wpc. with the adcom 565s. Now "Mr. Tubes Rule" (and you are not the first I've asked this question) how does a 60 wpc tube amp match up to a 300wpc solid state amp. I know the technical differences between tubes and SS i.e. high voltage trigger valve vs. high current continuous but again I don't see how 200wpc and above will make the SRSs sing but 60 to 80 wpc is really all one can get out of a tube amp atleast without mortgaging their home.

Your opinion please. Or would you rather me start a new thread :eek: LOL

hearingimpared

HTrookie wrote:

There's only one thing wrong with this forum.

SPAM!!!!

What's up with all those **** growth threads? Xbox for $100, etc????

I don't see anything else wrong.

Merry Christmas!!!

That's to keep the real aggresion pointed in right direction!

beardog03

hey !you mean it don`t work ?
I been taking this stuff for weeks..!!

Maurice

I think if we can keep our attitudes in check, and help people where they are, everything is cool. For instance, when I first joined I had bargain basement sony gear, and when I started considering an ES reciever, Doro and Grim (who both owned ES recievers at the time) chimed in and were very helpful in my decision. They didn't tell me how much sony sucked or that the power rating were all bs, they just helped me where I was. More of that would be cool IMO. By the way, Doro & Grim, much thanks as I have enjoyed my DA4 from day 1 til now.

starchaser

Excellent comments.

I just realized i have 200 posts. All for Karma's, prayers sent and posts re: what i'm listening to!!! Well at least the prayers count.

As my experience and knowledge is limited i have little to offer on the technical side of the house.
I've come far in a year yet only scratched the surface. Members have done much for me and most of my gear is from this forum.

Recently i gave a little back... took my spl meter to a friends house and made a few adjustments. His mouth dropped open then words of praise flowed like a river.

I smiled and said, don't thank me.. thank club polk! This is what CP is about.

The only real problems with CP are very serious.

We don't have enough tubed preamps for sale and we're overdue on vinyl offerings!!!

Merry Christmas

hearingimpared

beardog03 wrote:

hey !you mean it don`t work ?
I been taking this stuff for weeks..!!

I think you better check your hat size because this stuff come from down under!!!:D

reeltrouble1

HI,

You might want to start a thread, but the fact that someone thinks about the strengths/weakness of different designs, and is informed about a purchase, is what in the end I think really matters.

RT1 waaaaaaaaa AKA--Mr. Tubes Rule, you hearing me Frizz.

You all do realize I use sand amps??????????

beardog03

hearingimpared wrote:

I think you better check your hat size because this stuff come from down under!!!:D

Hat size=small to midlan
My bad...I thought it was supposed to work down under

The belly that is...:D

Sand amps ?!!

I have a tube rig and a sand rig..
I love them both...it`s all good

Dennis Gardner

I think that the "200 wpc separate amp" banner has come from newbies with the latest 700 watt receiver and RTi12s wants to know why it goes into thermal shutdown. This isn't new, as the RTi150s did it 5 years ago and the answer was the same.

I'm just glad "tubes rule" has slid aside for awhile as the answer to all things audio.

Hearingimpaired, your SDAs deserve a tube preamp with solid state amp to flavor the sound and deliver enough power.

Personally, I do miss the "Hall of Shame" and a wide open "For Sale" forum controlled by the vultures with unwritten rules.............

dkg999

Absolutely nothing wrong with this forum! Good people, good advice, a lot of caring that this forum doesn't suffer the ills of many other forums, and a kick-**** manufacturer that supports it all. Every family (and that's the way this place feels like) has its squabbles and slightly off-course members, but ya love'em all anyway!

Here's to this place rock'in through the new year and well beyond!

Doug.

cfrizz

You keep telling yourself that Ted, you may even convince a few people of that, though I won't be one of them.:p BTW what is a sand amp?

BBL...who me? Wwhaat did I do?:eek: Besides you should know better than to drink anything while reading this board. It's an occupational hazard!:D

Mark, I'm sorry if you don't agree with the 200wpc baseline for amp power. I guess my question would be why not? Or more to the point why single out just for HT? Is it alright to have it just for 2 channel? The main question is...Does more power help ANY system sound better or not?

I know that I have certainly found that it does, as has Early & a few others who went up to 200wpc.

I don't make a separation between 2 channel & HT because I only have 1 system, that is all I will ever have & I think a good many on this forum are in the same boat. But I firmly believe on getting the best components that one can the first time around that can be used for all applications.

Is it simply a matter of the amp costing more? That is why I recommend people exercising a bit of patience & saving more money so that they can afford to purchase a more powerful amp.

I'm not one of those who want to constantly tweak, swap, upgrade etc. to find the best synergy between equipment, cables, tubes & whatnot. I don't have that kind of patience or money.

I want to buy the best basic down to earth system that I can afford that will last for years & sit back & enjoy. Doing so will help stave off upgraditis!:D

Now I know a good many on this club are the polar opposite of this way of thinking & that's fine. I think that there is more than enough room on this forum for both schools of thought, & so long as everyone respects everyone else's right to have their opinion & voice it everything is cool.

I also think that it is important to stay consistant, & speak plain english in terms that hopefully everyone can understand, which is what I try to do.

I think the forum is just fine as well, but I do miss your sense of humor as well as George Grands.

Merry Christmas to you & yours Mark. I hope you & all Polkies have a good one!:)

Sami

cfrizz wrote:

Mark, I'm sorry if you don't agree with the 200wpc baseline for amp power. I guess my question would be why not? Or more to the point why single out just for HT? Is it alright to have it just for 2 channel? The main question is...Does more power help ANY system sound better or not?

Haha, not again... As I see/hear it, it's a question of quality versus quantity. Does a 700W Sony AV receiver sound better than 50W NAD? Does a 200W Rotel sound better than 50W McIntosh? Maybe yes, maybe no, your ears will tell you, not the power rating. There is so much quality gear out there in the used market that is (well) below the "magic" 200WPC mark and it shouldn't be ignored as it may sound much better. Besides, look at the current rating (power supply) of the amp, not the watt rating.

That's the problem with this forum, you get suckered into these never-ending debates, and then some of us take it tooo seriously. I think every internet forum debate should be accompanied with a huge grin and remember that what seems like a hostile comment a lot of the times isn't.

Happy Holidays!

cfrizz

Sami, this all comes down to speaking plain english. I just looked at my Denon manual. It talks about wpc, it doesn't say 1 word about current! I would bet that most have NO idea what current has to do with wpc.

Most of us are not engineers, nor are we interested in becoming ones just to understand all the gobblety **** spouted on the back of a manual.

What will cost more, the 200wpc Rotel or the 50wpc McIntosh? Why?

My ears did tell me that my 200wpc Parasound sounded much better than my 50wpc Rotel amplifier or my 110wpc receiver.

That is precisely why I recommend it so strongly. I don't make recommendations on equipment I don't know or haven't heard.

reeltrouble1

see, nothing wrong with the forum, a bunch of folks who want to talk about audio, on Christmas Eve no less!!!!!!!

Cat--sand amp is slang for solid state from silicon, if the manufacturer does not list the ampre rating it may, as in not always, indicate a weakness with the piece. One can always call and ask or if you don't care don't worry about it, ever wonder why two amps with equal wpc ratings may have significant differences in their overall weight??

I could not agree more with D.Gardner's comments about the RT lines.

RT1

cfrizz

AHHH. Thanks for the clarification Ted! As for your first comment...

I think we ALL need to get lives.:eek: :eek: :eek: WAAAAAAAAAAA!

Sami

cfrizz wrote:

Sami, this all comes down to speaking plain english. I just looked at my Denon manual. It talks about wpc, it doesn't say 1 word about current! I would bet that most have NO idea what current has to do with wpc.

Those who don't know what current is most likely don't have an idea what watt is either.

Frank Z

The only problem with this forum are the few people I've added to my ignore list.

hearingimpared

reeltrouble1 wrote:

HI,

You might want to start a thread, but the fact that someone thinks about the strengths/weakness of different designs, and is informed about a purchase, is what in the end I think really matters.

RT1 waaaaaaaaa AKA--Mr. Tubes Rule, you hearing me Frizz.

You all do realize I use sand amps??????????

You mean to tell me that they make amps from sand now!!!!


Dang it I'm caught . . .mERRY ?CHRISTMAS eVERYONE . . .GOTTA GO.

joe

disneyjoe7

I don't believe there's anything wrong with this forum, other then it may be a drug as I can't find myself away from it too long.

SS rules
Tubes are ok
Mosfet Suck

Ok just my $.02 I know ****.

Merry Christmas everyone.