Week #12 in the NFL....

Frank Z
Frank Z Posts: 5,860
edited November 2006 in The Clubhouse
And the Broncos were a major disappointment today. No special teams, the defense seems to need a peewee league coach to teach them the fundamentals of a proper tackling technique, The offense....simply wasn't there. And then there's Jake the Mistake.....see ya.

Props to KC, they came to play, plain and simple.

Romo had a great game against the Buc's...or are the Bucs just that bad.

Detroit vs. Miami....Can't the NFL find another team willing to actually play on Thanksgiving Day. Watching the Lions will put you to sleep faster than a belly full of turkey.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited November 2006
    A sweet victory for KC. I wasn't sure how well they would play, but kudo's for their effort. When LJ's on track, watch out. That man is one heck of a back. He needs 789 more yards (or so) in 6 more games to break 2K. (131.5 yrs /game.) It could happen if he breaks off a couple big games.

    I feel sorry for Jake the flake. He more than likely will be pulled. I hope Cutler isn't the next Elway!

    Fin's looked good, as did the 'Boys.

    Overall, a great day of football!
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited November 2006
    I'm not a Cowboy fan, but it's hard not to feel like we're watching a star in the making...

    The passion and the instinct instantly take me back to when Brady first emerged in the playoffs.

    Bledsoe sure knows how to (not) be in the right place at right/wrong time.
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited November 2006
    Broncos didn't have a third down conversion until just before the half, that's pathetic. The special teams play scared, once again the defensive tackles wore down early due to lack of size, and the tackling was piss-poor. Five games to go, and in football the last third of the season separates the men from the boys.

    The Chiefs possibly can ride Johnson into the playoffs, but if he gets hurt, they're done. The passing offensive is only a shadow of it's former self, which is too bad as it was fun to watch.
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  • ND13
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    edited November 2006
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited November 2006
    markmarc wrote:
    The Chiefs possibly can ride Johnson into the playoffs, but if he gets hurt, they're done. The passing offensive is only a shadow of it's former self, which is too bad as it was fun to watch.

    Heaven forbid he get hurt, but say he did for a few games, have you ever seen our pro-bowl backup run? Bennett was on fire yesterday as well! I believe our ground game would suffer, but we would still be competitive and able to win.

    And it's a silly argument anyways, because if Manning gets hurt, the Colts are done, if Brady goes down, the Pats are done. It's a team sport, but there are always superstars.

    It will be a fun last few games of the season!
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  • RayChuang
    RayChuang Posts: 16
    edited November 2006
    Frank Z wrote:
    Romo had a great game against the Buc's...or are the Bucs just that bad.

    The Bucs are really bad this year--they've lost most of their best players. Small wonder why the Cowboys almost scored at will during the game (which I saw on 1080i hi-def at my cousin's place! :D ).
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,200
    edited November 2006
    Hey Frank,

    Whats the word around town with Jake??? Is he going to be replaced by that hot Rookie QB??? I forget his name. I heard he is really good and Mike S wants to bring him in.
    Dude I feel yeah man, I'm a Bronco fan and it pains me to watch them lose to themselves. Jake can make you or Break you at anytime. It depends on which Jake shows up. I know he can play and he's got alot of talent but so off the wall when or if he will show up with it.

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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited November 2006
    mantis wrote:
    Dude I feel yeah man, I'm a Bronco fan and it pains me to watch them lose to themselves.

    Lose to themselves?!? The Chief's dominated every aspect of the game on Thursday. 225 yards rushing to Denver's 38 yards? Do you honestly feel that Denver is a better team than KC right now?

    Despite what everyone around the league is saying about the Chargers, the Chiefs have beaten all three teams in the AFC West in the past 4 weeks. It seems to me that the Chiefs are the team to beat in the West. :D:D:D
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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited November 2006
    The Ravens performed a total thumpin on the lowly Steelers! WOW, 9 sacks, 2int and a fumble recovery for a TD. The Offense came out and did a nice job to finish off the pounding! We had it all today.

    9-2 boys! We are now fighting for homefield throughout the playoffs!

    BRING IT!

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,200
    edited November 2006
    MrNightly wrote:
    Lose to themselves?!? The Chief's dominated every aspect of the game on Thursday. 225 yards rushing to Denver's 38 yards? Do you honestly feel that Denver is a better team than KC right now?

    Despite what everyone around the league is saying about the Chargers, the Chiefs have beaten all three teams in the AFC West in the past 4 weeks. It seems to me that the Chiefs are the team to beat in the West. :D:D:D

    Just watch Jake Plummer week in and week out and you'll see what I mean. He's got mad skills but they come and go...

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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2006
    Pats looked pretty damned good this week. Turnovers were mostly just amazing plays by the Bears more than mistakes by the Pats. Favorite play of the game had to be Brady bootlegging a run, and rather than slide when Urlacher came after him, juking and going 6 more yards for the first down. So bad-****.
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,784
    edited November 2006
    Well, I'd like to express my personal thanks to Eli Manning and the NY Giants.

    21 point lead, 10 minutes to play and, in honor of Thanksgiving, did their best impression of a gaggle of gobblers.

    All in all, still wasn't that bad of a week.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited November 2006
    I almost lost my lunch wathing Seau tonight. That was just disgusting. **** ending to a fabulous career.
  • MrNightly
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    edited November 2006
    Heck of a week in the Pool :D:D:D
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited November 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    I almost lost my lunch wathing Seau tonight. That was just disgusting. **** ending to a fabulous career.

    I'll tell you though he got up and walked right off the field after they put his arm in a splint. I remember when I broke my elbow end of 2005, the pain is beyond words to describe it.

    Anyway, in the pats game there were a few not so great calls against the pats, mainly pass interference.

    And Samuel, 3 interceptions......wow....just wow is what i'd use to describe that.
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2006
    Not a great game for the Bears, oh well, they are still 9-2 after a fairly tough three game road trip and on there way home to Soldier Field. On the bright side they played poorly yet were in the game and could have won it. The way they turned the Pats over was awesome, the way they got turned over was miserable.

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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    I almost lost my lunch wathing Seau tonight. That was just disgusting. **** ending to a fabulous career.

    Yeah that was nasty. I'll tell ya though, there are like 3 other Pats players right now playing with broken arm bones, I wouldn't be surprised to see Seau in pads again in a couple weeks with a cast on.
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  • ahorvitz
    ahorvitz Posts: 235
    edited November 2006
    bobman1235 wrote:
    Yeah that was nasty. I'll tell ya though, there are like 3 other Pats players right now playing with broken arm bones, I wouldn't be surprised to see Seau in pads again in a couple weeks with a cast on.

    Neither would I... Even if it's a 4-6 week thing, he could make an appearance by the AFC Championship game (when the Pats beat the Bolts in SD, Seau's triumphant return).

    I wish we hadn't turned it over so much. That's been the problem for the Pats against the better teams- Denver (last year's playoffs), Indy, and now Chicago. But without a couple of suspect interference calls, that's probably a 10 point Pats win.

    The AFC playoff picture is interesting- Chiefs, Jags, and Jets fighting for that last spot.

    NFC- only 2 good teams, and I don't think Dallas can go to Chicago in January and beat the Bears.

    So we watched a Superbowl preview at Gillette on Sunday, and I expect the outcome will be the same in February's rematch in Miami.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited November 2006
    Uggghhh, Hate to admit it but the Pats are now the team to beat in the AFC with the outside possibility of Baltimore...

    Indy: No run D, if they have to go outside they'll lose. Both SD, Balt, and NE match up really well
    SD: No pass D and their run D is average, WR's lacking
    Cincinatti: Heckl and Hide Defense, no real toughness on either side of the ball
    Cheifs: 1 Dimensional O, not sold on the D
    Donks: D-line blows, who's the QB and how well will he play?
    Jags: Inconsistancy-Can't put 2-3 good games together.
    Jets: OK O, OK D = Not long for the playoffs....

    I think Dallas is the best team in the NFC now. The difference between their O and Chicago's is greater than the difference in the D's. Seattle might be a dark horse now that their healthy.

    Anyway, it doesn't matter as NE, Balt, Indy, or SD would beat any of the NFC teams
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited November 2006
    J --

    I have to agree with your midseason assessments. It's fairly spot-on.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited November 2006
    jdhdiggs wrote:
    Anyway, it doesn't matter as NE, Balt, Indy, or SD would beat any of the NFC teams

    Hmmm....I believe The Boys already took out Indy. They'd be 9-2 or 10-1 if they'd put Romo in the starting position earlier.

    The team to beat in the AFC is the Ravens, even though the Colts are my AFC team. I still don't have much faith in Indy's "just let Peyton run the show" attitude. They've been doing that for several years now, and it turns out just like his Tennessee days...he can't win the big game(Florida). Why do the Colt's even have an offensive coordinator, when it's obvious that Peyton doesn't ever listem to him????

    The NFC just has a more evenly matched conference this year. Don't be surprised when a NFC team wins the SB.
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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited November 2006
    The Ravens can clinch the division title on Thursday if they take out Cincy. From there on out would be for a high playoff seed.

    In our Superbowl year, our D carried us most of the way. This year, we have it on both sides of the ball.

    Bring them all on! I still have a boner from yesterdays performance. Ya almost had to feel sorry for the Steelers...almost.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited November 2006
    ahorvitz wrote:

    The AFC playoff picture is interesting- Chiefs, Jags, and Jets fighting for that last spot.

    You should really know what you are saying before you post my man. If the playoffs were today, Chiefs would be the first wildcard, and the Donkey's the second. We own a better division record (3-1 to DEN's 2-2) after the tie 7-4. That's the next comparison they look at.

    The Chiefs still have a shot at wining the division.. though I highly doubt that will happen. We always manage to lose a game we should win at the end of the year.

    But regardless, the Jags and Jets and Cincy (All 6-5) are on the outside looking in right now in the AFC. As we all know, the final 5 games could easily change that picture!

    And jdhdiggs, every team in the NFL has weaknesses, it's just a matter of matchups and who can exploit them. That's why we play the games... Ha.

    Just FYI ;)
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2006
    ahorvitz wrote:
    Neither would I... Even if it's a 4-6 week thing, he could make an appearance by the AFC Championship game (when the Pats beat the Bolts in SD, Seau's triumphant return).

    So much for that - ESPN reporting the Pats put him on the IR.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited November 2006
    Yeah, any team can win on any given sunday, BUT if both teams play to the level their capable of, I think NE and Balt. are the teams to beat by being fairly consistant and effective on both sides of the ball.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited November 2006
    bobman1235 wrote:
    Yeah that was nasty. I'll tell ya though, there are like 3 other Pats players right now playing with broken arm bones, I wouldn't be surprised to see Seau in pads again in a couple weeks with a cast on.

    Maybe, but I think he's done for good. That looked like a big break that will keep him out. I didn't hear the full details. What bone/bones broke?

    BTW -- NE has improved a lot over what they were early on. I know I came down hard on them and Denver, and of the two only one still holds true, and that is that Denver isn't very good. I'd be surprised if NE is the team that goes to the SB, but they have experience in their favor, which counts for a lot. I still think Indy goes, and their defense has definitely improved if yesterday had anything to say about it.
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2006
    As I posted above, I was wrong about Seau - he's on the IR. Done for the year.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2006
    jdhdiggs wrote:
    Yeah, any team can win on any given sunday, BUT if both teams play to the level their capable of, I think NE and Balt. are the teams to beat by being fairly consistant and effective on both sides of the ball.

    I'll roll with you on Baltimore, but the defence is shakey. I saw the Jets score on them ALOT live at giants stadium. Peyton in the clutch won that game by marching down the field and scoring everytime the jets did. they almost lost that game (I might have cried a bit....so effin close).

    NE is still great, and a division 2 college team would be a threat with Bill Bellichick at the helm, but they've been plagued with inconsistent play that wasnt the case in the past (hence there absolute sominance in the last 5 years.)


    saying both would beat the Cowboys? dude, I just dont know. the Boys have been playin good. I think Noel called it, had Romo been in from jump, street, they'd be 9-2 right now.

    if I had to pick who would go all the way right now, and my life depended on it, I'd go with the Boys. in the beginning of the year, it was the Bears (I'm a sucker for a solid defence)
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited November 2006
    Yeah, the Boys look damn good and in the regular season I'd take them and the Colts over anyone, but once the pressure is on, I don't like Romo's chances over Brady's or McNair's. Manning and Grossman have already proven that they will choke under pressure. I doubt Romo could handle it his first year starting either.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited November 2006
    I had to listen to "The Bill Polian Show" on Q95(Indy's Classic Rock Station) last Monday evening and thought I was going to puke. He acted like the Cowboys weren't even on the field and the Colt's beat themselves. He just couldn't admit that the Cowboys BEAT them. He never gave credit where credit's due, period. It almost made me want to take my Colt's license plate back to the DMV and exchange it for a regular plate.

    It's hard to root for two contenders, I know, but I'll at least admit when one of my teams gets beat. And the Colts just plain got beat.

    Bill Polian has completely lost any respect I had for him. For the, at least 30 minutes I listened to the show, he never once said the Cowboys did anything right, just that the Colts did everything wrong. If I was a Colt's player, I'd be pissed if my GM couldn't even admit defeat and only blamed it on his own team's inability. Maybe Polian should get off his high horse and check out the statistics, which the Cowboys are near the top in just about every category on both sides of the ball.
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