God I love Super Audio Compact Disc

aaharvel
aaharvel Posts: 4,489
edited November 2010 in Music & Movies
that's all..
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited September 2006
    I loved Beta also. Ha Ha.
    Venom
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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited September 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    that's all..

    What??? No touching yourself in strange ways while listening?

    Can't be that good if you didn't! :D
    No excuses!
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited September 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    that's all..

    that's nice. .. thanks for sharing that. :rolleyes:
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited September 2006
    my 2 cents, I have found, with a decent (high quality, high resolution, modded or otherwise) CDP, and tight amplifier, the resolution gap between Red Book/HDCD and SACD is greatly diminished. Not to dismiss SACD of course, part of it is due to the magic of recording engineers, whom, at the end still control the outcome of the resolution quality of the album.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    that's all..

    So what's your latest find?

    I just did the math, based upon sa-cd.net's listings.....for 2006, an average of 61 SACD titles released each month vs. 67 SACD titles released each month for 2005.

    From the Special Editorial for September 2006 on Audiophile Audition....
    Odd that many publications have continually promulgated the view that there have been only a few releases in the audio-only SACD format so they consider it a failure. The fact is that there are many thousands of SACDs available - though many may have to be ordered from Europe or Asia because they are not distributed in North America. And certainly not in brick & mortar stores. In fact, we are currently struggling at Audiophile Audition to get the stacks of recent multichannel SACDs reviewed which have been provided to us!
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2006
    It will never beat 8 track... :)
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2006
    sorry, spur of the moment post. I was listening to some new Telarc discs last night and was very impressed. They belonged to a friend, not mine unfortunately. Seems like the sound quality is improving as time goes by, maybe because Sony/Phillips have found a cheaper yet more authentic way of preserving the original DSD sound.
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    Rega P1 Turntable

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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2006
    Andrew,

    I think you're right about lower production cost of SACD. Have you seen this article?

    http://www.sa-cd.net/shownews/41

    Recently, Chesky Records announced it will go single-inventory hybrid SACD in 2007. No more regular CDs from Chesky next year. Chesky also just started releasing a new series of jazz SACD recorded in New York and they are supposedly to be priced "aggressively". I also noticed Telarc just released a new SACD (Randy Brecker) as a single-inventory hybrid SACD and its MSRP is about 25% less than Telarc's other SACD titles.

    I also think SACD is picking up some steam....Universal Music has decided to distribute all 5 SACD titles by the Moody Blues as domestic releases. I think Universal noticed a lot of people here in the States were ordering the SACDs from overseas.

    And for those who thinks Sony has abandoned SACD....less than a month ago, US Sony released a single-inventory hybrid SACD from a 14 year old classical composer. And in early October, Sony will release a new soundtrack album on SACD by Danny Elfman. While the intro of the SACD-capable Sony PlayStation 3 may be delayed, Sony has announced a new audio-only SACD/CD player to be introduced in November....

    sony02.jpg

    Marantz also just released a US$6,200 "statement" SACD player.

    And even single-layer SACD is making a return....Top Music just announced a new "break-in" disc on single-layer SACD. On the front, it has a logo saying it's part of the "Pure SACD Series", which may mean more single-layer titles may be coming.

    Did you get the Mo-Fi Little Richard SACD?
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2006
    XA1200.. damn that thing looks nice!

    Yeah, i read that article not too long ago.. that's what caused my 2nd wind with SACD so to speak.. and started to listen to more and more discs from genres I usually don't associate with too often.. yesterday my enthusiasm came to a head and I was so impressed i just wanted to post, too bad it wasn't a very useful post. :o
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2006
    NAD also just announced its second universal player, the T585

    060601103841-430-T585_3_4.jpg
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  • Mick88
    Mick88 Posts: 26
    edited September 2006
    .........and the Depeche Mode series continues in October with three more releases. I love SACD. I have 100 titles now. Wish more mainstream non jazz and classical were available.

    MW
    http://remasters.depechemode.com/
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  • Meeks32
    Meeks32 Posts: 330
    edited September 2006
    Will SACD ever make its way into car audio? I used to see DVD-audio players a year or so ago & even those seem to be disapearing now.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited September 2006
    I'm glad you started this thread, Andrew. SACD still needs to be "talked up" as there are far too many folks whom remain clueless as to the superior sound quality.

    My only beef is the selection, hopefully some record company executives will read this. We need more rock and blues!!!
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2006
    Possible SACD of new Elton John album "Captain & The Kid".....new 5.1 surround sound mix being prepared as I type....

    http://www.eltonjohn.com/catk/msinterview.asp
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2006
    Within the routine mundane background sounds need to multi-task pepsi generation music push towards whole house servers SACD seems to have found its niche. I would not mind some more rock, I just think SACD needs really good music to shine. Unlike most I am just willing to pay more for superior software when combined with superior recording. I am also willing to sit down and just listen to music for hours without feeling like I should be doing something else around the house. Dont get me wrong I will one day have a server of some sort but after all the Kinks get worked out, speaking of the Kinks their SACD's are quite nice, a great chord crutching band with great lyrics.

    I did just purchase the Janos Starkos cello SACD with the LSO and it is excellent. I believe I have all of the current EJ's and there is not a dog in the bunch. Tumbleweed is one of my favorites.

    RT1
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited January 2007
    SACD of Moody Blues' "Seventh Sojourn" and "Every Good Boy Deserves Favour" coming early April. Don't forget Genesis SACD reissues come out at end of March.

    SACD of Rickie Lee Jones' new album is coming as well, plus SACD of Enigma's current album.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2007
    I would really like to check it out, but not until the inventory gets way bigger.
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  • ninerbj
    ninerbj Posts: 870
    edited January 2007
    I too love the SACD format! I do however have a couple questions...
    1. Does anyone else have bass issues with SACD's? What did you do to curb this issue?
    2. Last year about this time (could have been in late 2005 as well) there were rumors of Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here. Anyone heard anything lately?
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  • Lsi9
    Lsi9 Posts: 616
    edited January 2007
    I am wondering what format do you guys mainly listen with SACD, Multichannel or 2 channel?
    I am not interested in multichannel... isn't this really the point with SACD, when two channel SACD isn't really an improvement over redbook?

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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,341
    edited January 2007
    Lsi9 wrote:
    ... isn't this really the point with SACD, when two channel SACD isn't really an improvement over redbook?

    IMO SACD two channel is a nice improvement over redbook two channel. More detailed. I listen to mostly two channel, but there are some disks that do a good job with multi channel. I like a little of the rear channel to add some "dimension" to the music. It makes you feel like your in a big auditorium. Multi-channel live music brings the audience into the rear channel so it's like your at a concert.
    Carl

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited January 2007
    I listen in multichannel.
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  • Refefer
    Refefer Posts: 1,280
    edited January 2007
    I don't really care about multichannel.

    But I can't wait until my oppo comes in so I can start rocking it with the SACDs. I've got my first couple already in sight.

    I love the fact that more people are using hybrids with regulars on one side and SACDs on the other. I think that's a brilliant standard to goto to give us what we want to hear, and the boombox generation what they want to hear.
    Lovin that music year after year.

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,083
    edited January 2007
    I would tend to agree with F1's assessment, however, there is a lot of good material out there that, frankly, was so poorly recorded in the first place that high resolution is a waste of time.

    Audiophilia, for better or worse, has predominantly resdided in classical and to a lesser extent, jazz. There are some outstanding SACD's in those genres. In fact, I think that many of the Mercury Living Presence SACD's are better than the LP's.

    BDT
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,083
    edited January 2007
    cfrizz wrote:
    I listen in multichannel.

    blasphemy ;)

    BDT
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2007
    I don't think 3/4 of the people in here would hear the difference between Steely Dan - Gaucho on DVD-A or SACD....I know I don't. I guess I just need to sit and think more, as I'm bound to hear something eventually.

    Selection does indeed suck but Sony doomed that whole process from its inception. Every now and then we get a golden nugget of a SACD :)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    F1nut wrote:
    I'm glad you started this thread, Andrew. SACD still needs to be "talked up" as there are far too many folks whom remain clueless as to the superior sound quality.

    My only beef is the selection, hopefully some record company executives will read this. We need more rock and blues!!!

    I need to hear yours!!!
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited January 2007
    I haven't found anything that I cared to listen to in multi channel. It feels unnatural to me to be sitting on the stage, facing the musicians, but with instruments coming from behind as well. Could just be the way the albums I've heard are mixed. My favorite so far is Bela Fleck- Drive. MFSL release, great musicians, material, recording.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2007
    ninerbj wrote:
    I too love the SACD format! I do however have a couple questions...
    1. Does anyone else have bass issues with SACD's? What did you do to curb this issue?

    I have Stings Brand New Day SACD, and the bass on the first track will rip up nearly any speaker if played at high volume. It is a very well recorded album minus the sub audio bass blast in the very beginning. The dynamics and clarity are very detailed. I also personally like to set my SACD player to 2 channel for most audio except concerts. If I have company I set it to DTS to show off the technology. There are times when you are playing a 5.1 SACD that you will hear something like voices or a "ding" that will make you look around to see who slipped in while you were listening. When you are ready to listen to music try setting it back to 2 Ch.

    Enjoy
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    Thanks
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2007
    Would the Denon DVD-2910 be fairly respectable at SACD reproduction?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    Okay now I am really confused. I thought SACD was always multichannel. I've read here
    that it can be switched to 2 ch???? Can someone clarify that for me please? I have an SACD player, it may not be the best but if it can be played in 2 ch, I would love to try it out.
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