World War III

unc2701

Yeah, or more directly to the point, look at the 2000 SC primary with McCain's fictional illegitimate black child.

And it's not just white racism- Hispanics are a rapidly growing voting block, but historically do not think very highly of african americans. Throw in the male-dominated society and that's a whole mess of voters that might go republican based on the conservative social values, but you'd lose with Rice.

George Grand

All this political talk is one of the things we're not supposed to talk about.

Troy WOULD hit it. He'd hit the chair she was sitting in.


Stop talking about politics.

Skynut

George Grand wrote:

Stop talking about politics.

Yes sir.

Lot of weather weve been having lately.

unc2701

George Grand wrote:

All this political talk is one of the things we're not supposed to talk about.

Troy WOULD hit it. He'd hit the chair she was sitting in.


Stop talking about politics.

yeah, that visual just might be what it takes to kill this thread.

cfrizz

Sorry to disobey George but this is important to me.

While I think very highly of Dr. Rice, I agree with all the statements that she wouldn't have a hope in H*ll!

1. Racism is alive & well in the USA, so the bigots wouldn't vote for her.

2. She is a black REPUBLICAN woman, so a good many blacks wouldn't vote for her for being a republican, and another good chunk wouldn't because they would be thinking that she's associating too much with white people & not remembering her own.

3. A good many women wouldn't vote for her simply because she is a woman & they think it's not her place. (especially the older generations)

4. The media would go on a tear trying to find dirt on her.

While she is strong enough to take the heat, I'm not sure it is worth it to her. Colin Powell made the same decision that it wasn't worth the stress it would put on his family. I agree, it's not! At least not yet.

George Grand

I didn't make the rules, Polk did.

MacLeod

unc2701 wrote:

There have been five black senators in the history of the US. The biggest shift hasn't been in people's willingness to vote for a black or female canidate, but rather their reluctance to admit they wouldn't in a poll. The first black female senator wasn't until 1993. I just don't think that the US is there yet... kinda sad.

Anyhow, the Republican party is such a weird coalition that the real problem would be getting past a primary. I mean, look at Utah. Can a mildly pro choice black female really carry the most republican state in the US? She'd get destroyed by anyone else running.

I think the US is there and has been for a while. Is America 100% racist free? No. There are still plenty of whites that hate blacks, blacks that hate whites, hispanics that hate whites and so on. But there have been way way WAY too many succesful black people in this country for the US to be a "racist" country. There are countelss teachers, professors, judges, captains of industry, CEO's of big companies and so on. All of which have succeeded thru hard work and would not have been possible in the 1960's. Both Condie Rice and Oprah Winfrey (2 extremes of the spectrum) would still be sharecroppers if that were so but instead, they are 2 of the most successful human beings ever.

Just because there hasnt been many black people voted into office doesnt mean America wouldnt vote for them, it just means there hasnt been a lot of black people running for office. For instance, Chattanooga, TN is almost 50/50 black/white yet about 90% of the people running in our local elections this year are white! Why is that? I dont have the answer. But I can say that the front runner for the Senate is a black man.

And these straw polls that keep showing Condie near the top of the list are taken by ballot and they dont have your names on them. Same with all the grass roots swell that is building for Condie to run. I know its popular to label conservatives as racist, but the highest ranking black peopel in history were conservatives (Condie and Colin) while the senior Democrat Senator is a former member of the KKK.

Demiurge

Be a white man or woman walking in a black inner city neighborhood at night and then tell me where the racism comes from these days. You'd be lucky to get out alive. Turn that one around, and at most someone would call the cops.

Whites aren't supposed to talk about race unless they're blaming themselves for the worlds problems. It's time to stop playing victim -- slavery has been over for a long time.

BIZILL

reparations my eye. the day i ever pay that, i'd better see someone tending to my chores around the house. affirmative action? don't get me started. those who feel we're all on the same plane, i tend to get along with, in equality.

jderdock

1) WWIII? I'm on my knees nightly, PRAYING for nuclear holocaust. I tried to be a nice guy and escorted a lady friend to the beach this weekend. Being on the boardwalk finally drove home my desire for the extermination of mankind. We need to start over. Humanity has become a writhing, collective entity....and that entity is a brainwashed redneck with bad taste in music.

2) Condaleeza Rice is a lizard.

jderdock

3) I'm a bit jealous of the Iraqis. How come THEY get a civil war?

PolkThug

This thread rules! Keep in goin'!!

unc2701

Yep, this thread has just about everything... except for a ghetto big mac:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO6Bq4lQRZ4&mode=related&search=


You're welcome.

zombie boy 2000

Ghetto Big Mac:D

WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!


I haven't been to the Golden Arches in over three years, but I might just go there tonight.

Thanks UNC:)

wingnut4772

jderdock wrote:

1) WWIII? I'm on my knees nightly, PRAYING for nuclear holocaust. I tried to be a nice guy and escorted a lady friend to the beach this weekend. Being on the boardwalk finally drove home my desire for the extermination of mankind. We need to start over. Humanity has become a writhing, collective entity....and that entity is a brainwashed redneck with bad taste in music.

2) Condaleeza Rice is a lizard.

OOOOOOooooooookaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy.

jderdock

you don't really know what to say to such a post, do you?

Late Friday afternoon's at the desk make my lips a bit more loose.

PolkThug

Israeli aim sucks.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14100258/?GT1=8307

MacLeod

War is hell.

aaharvel

both of you are right.

MacLeod

Well when you have these cowardly muslim terrorists using civillians as shields, theyre going to get caught in the crossfire but its not Israel's fault, its the scumbag, cowardly muslim terrorists.

This has gone on long enoug! They've had cease fire after cease fire after cease fire and they always come about the time hellabazoo is on the ropes then Israel gives up some concessions and then within 2-3 years, these animals are lobbing rockets back over at Israel again and we're back to sqare one.

These animal have to be killed and surrounding themselves with civillians shouldnt be a reason to not do just that.

When youre at war with pure evil, bad things are going to happen.

jderdock

MacLeod wrote:

These animal have to be killed and surrounding themselves with civillians shouldnt be a reason to not do just that.

When youre at war with pure evil, bad things are going to happen.

While it's nothing new, reducing your enemy to "animals" and "pure evil" via clever propaganda is a historically successful strategy. Karl Rove and friends are masters of this sort of spin. I think future societies will look back on this administration in awe of it's ability to cleverly market ideologies and sell political strategies to the masses, almost like we look back on **** Germany (no one get their panties in a bunch...I'm speaking only of their marketing/spin abilities...nothing more).

Unfortunately, while it gains you flag-waving support in the short term, it does nothing to address the real issues of why there is a conflict in the first place.

Call Hezbollah animals all you want, but remember that they also provide free health care and education to impoverished Lebanese citizens...not a typical practice of animals. If China deployed it's army to Texas, toppled the government and installed a government more favorable to it's policies, killed tens of thousands of people in the process and established it's hold on the supply of Texas oil, you'd probably call the Chinese animals. It's not hard to see how these extremist regimes form. Unfortunately, they may always be a byproduct of a global economy and corporate dominated capitalism.

Demiurge

Ah, I love when a liberal shows his true colors.

Why do you lefties even reference WW2? The pussies you are today you wouldn't have fought that war either. It's a disgrace listening to a liberal talking about past wars that they didn't support back then as if they would support them under any circumstance.

If you treated Hitler like you wanted us to treat Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, and the like you'd all be speaking German and you wouldn't be able to call your leader a moron like you so casually do now. If you idiots (it's descriptive, trust me) can't see a difference between our government and the government of **** Germany you're clearly a lost cause.

The very fact you can't differentiate between the terrorist states of Syria and Iran and that of the United States shows just how screwed up your world view really is.

I'm willing to bet most of you that have that view have never seen the horror first hand, or even had a friend or family member that could share it with you second hand.

jderdock

Demiurge wrote:

Ah, I love when a liberal shows his true colors.

Why do you lefties even reference WW2?

I couldn't make it past this. Sorry.

Demiurge

jderdock wrote:

I couldn't make it past this. Sorry.

I know, I'm not surprised. The last time one got called out he went on a hysterical fit.

jderdock

"one"...haha

PolkThug

Demiurge wrote:

The pussies you are today you wouldn't have fought that war either.

Calling mrbigbluelight to page 12!

F1nut

You're wrong Demi, he's not a liberal, he's a crackpot. Pffft!!!

jderdock

good replies

Demiurge

jderdock wrote:

good replies

Was something I said untrue?

You call America as it exists today a parallel to **** Germany. It shows either you're a complete pinhead, or you have no concept of world history. This would really be no surprise given the amount of revisionist history taught in our public schools today.

You're not even willing to call the enemy savages, in fact you're equating Israel and the United States to our mutual enemy. You're the 2nd guy to blame America for the woes in the Middle East.

Calling an enemy who hides among women and children savages is now decried by the lefties in this thread as wrong. Hezbollah cheers and brags when they kill civilians and Israel apologizes. I can't imagine where some of your viewpoints must come from. If you don't like Israel, fine, but they have every right to live in a world without constant fear of an enemy that wants each and every last one of them dead.

The annoying thing about you liberals referencing WW2, is that you guys wouldn't have made it past the first hour of D-Day before throwing up the white flag. So please stop acting like you supported our actions then. You've got absolutely no frame of reference about what was at stake then, and the amount of death and destruction that was felt around the globe. We're in a similar war today.

This country is in a sad state of affairs if we can't even stomach killing the enemy, and the idea that civilians are going to die. We wouldn't have made it off of Omaha Beach in WW2 with the foriegn policy you guys support. You're total pussies, and you'll be the demise of this country. When this war escalates, and it is inevitable, it'll be you guys that will be the bane of our existence.

I'm not even convinced another 9/11 would be a big enough wake up call.

MacLeod

jderdock wrote:

While it's nothing new, reducing your enemy to "animals" and "pure evil" via clever propaganda is a historically successful strategy. Karl Rove and friends are masters of this sort of spin. I think future societies will look back on this administration in awe of it's ability to cleverly market ideologies and sell political strategies to the masses, almost like we look back on **** Germany (no one get their panties in a bunch...I'm speaking only of their marketing/spin abilities...nothing more).

Unfortunately, while it gains you flag-waving support in the short term, it does nothing to address the real issues of why there is a conflict in the first place.

Call Hezbollah animals all you want, but remember that they also provide free health care and education to impoverished Lebanese citizens...not a typical practice of animals. If China deployed it's army to Texas, toppled the government and installed a government more favorable to it's policies, killed tens of thousands of people in the process and established it's hold on the supply of Texas oil, you'd probably call the Chinese animals.

Yeah, they provide free health care in their utopian society.

They also dont allow women to appear in public without looking like a walking tent. They also behead innocent civillians on video tape. They also strap bombs onto their wives and children and then blow up restaurants and hospitals. And then let us not forget the whole "planes into buildings" thing.

So while you may think the hellabazoos are the perfect society, I will continue to think of them as barbaric scum and cowards that hide behind their womens skirts.

It's not hard to see how these extremist regimes form. Unfortunately, they may always be a byproduct of a global economy and corporate dominated capitalism.

And this is so stupid Im not sure how to even respond to it. Its because of this global economy that the global quality of life is many times better than its ever been in history.