World War III

MacLeod

mrbigbluelight wrote:

As to Bush saying, "****", well.......he was just saying what was in his mind, I'll grant you that. :rolleyes:

Maybe youd feel more confident with his leadership if he were, say, banging 20 year old interns with a cigar in the Oval Office. Now THATS statesmanship.

George Grand

Maybe a brown paper bag would work for that girl. That whole "Unknown Comic" thing.

mrbigbluelight

Nancy Grace, and George Bush, and I've determined:

1. I'm right.
2. See 1


No fan of Bill Clinton, but he at least showed some creativety for uses for a cigar.


Meanwhile.......

We'll be watching !!

.....we're pretending like we're in the NSA/CIA/FBI/Homeland Security, watching US citizens.
George seems to have fun with it, so we're giving it a try.

....not referring to George Grand, btw. Although.......I know Hezboolah doesn't care for Nancy Grace, and neither does George Grand. Maybe he should be watched, too.

mrbigbluelight

after Israel is finished as the pincushion for Hezboolah rockets, and we've determined that their supply is minimal, we'll attack Syria.

brettw22

aside from the initial quirkiness, is there much of a point in putting cat pics everywhere you post? Just seems.......dumb?

ohskigod

cute and fuzzy KITTIES!!!!


4 cats in my house make me a little nuts.

wingnut4772

brettw22 wrote:

aside from the initial quirkiness, is there much of a point in putting cat pics everywhere you post? Just seems.......dumb?

Ssshhhh...Brett. [SIZE="-5"]we don't want to make him angry...[/SIZE]

We LOVE the cat pictures! Yes ..please post more........?

(runs away)

TroyD

Please, make it stop.

BDT

MacLeod

CONDIE '08!!!!


Woohoo!!!

MrNightly

MacLeod wrote:

CONDIE '08!!!!


Woohoo!!!

I'd second that

Demiurge

MacLeod wrote:

CONDIE '08!!!!


Woohoo!!!

Asshat, I thought that was for real!!!! :mad:

unc2701

MacLeod wrote:

CONDIE '08!!!!


Woohoo!!!

The only way she'd win is if she was up against Hillary. The only way Hillary would win is if she's up against Cheney.

TroyD

MacLeod wrote:

CONDIE '08!!!!


Woohoo!!!

I'd hit it.

BDT

unc2701

TroyD wrote:

I'd hit it.

BDT

I really, really hope you mean that you'd vote for her... [skin crawling]

I'm just going to go to my happy place... with Jenna and Barb.

cfrizz

I'm not sure I want to know what this is about!

unc2701 wrote:

I really, really hope you mean that you'd vote for her... [skin crawling]

I'm just going to go to my happy place... with Jenna and Barb.

mrbigbluelight

just ONE per week !

But Condie ? Well ..... you know, she's actually quite nice looking, too. She's no Nancy Grace, mind you, but she's musically gifted on the piano.

cfrizz

And has more brains in her little finger than most of us have in our heads! Very smart woman!

MacLeod

Im not kidding. Im dead serious.

I think Condoleeza Rice would be a great President and Id vote for her in a heartbeat.

She is my favorite politician right now.

She is also the smartest politician right now, probably the smartest person in D.C. and is in the top 1% of intellectuals world wide. Just listen to her talk compared to other talking heads on the news, you can tell she is just brilliant and way out of their league. Everytime she testifies in front of Congress she slaps them around like little beeyotches. They cant even keep up with her!

Shes done an excellent, albeit short, job as Secretary of State and has cleaned it up quite a bit.

She speaks 4 languages, is a concert pianist, very well spoken, conservative, brilliant, good leader and is rather attractive to boot and best of all, her dream is to own an NFL team!! Is she the perfect chick or what?!

I would be damn proud to call her my President and hope and pray she runs in '08.

Hoorah! Go Condie go!

AsSiMiLaTeD

There's not a politician alive that I can think of that I'd even put in the top 5% of the intellectuals, much less the top 1%.

MacLeod

She wasnt always a politican. She was a professor at Stanford for several years.

She was a fellow at the American Academy of Arts, the Hoover Institute and the Institute for International Studies, she's been on the board of directors for the University of Notre Dame and the San Fransisco Symophony something or other and she's written several books all before politics.

Thats not too shabby.

wingnut4772

MacLeod wrote:

Im not kidding. Im dead serious.

I think Condoleeza Rice would be a great President and Id vote for her in a heartbeat.

She is my favorite politician right now.

She is also the smartest politician right now, probably the smartest person in D.C. and is in the top 1% of intellectuals world wide. Just listen to her talk compared to other talking heads on the news, you can tell she is just brilliant and way out of their league. Everytime she testifies in front of Congress she slaps them around like little beeyotches. They cant even keep up with her!

Shes done an excellent, albeit short, job as Secretary of State and has cleaned it up quite a bit.

She speaks 4 languages, is a concert pianist, very well spoken, conservative, brilliant, good leader and is rather attractive to boot and best of all, her dream is to own an NFL team!! Is she the perfect chick or what?!

I would be damn proud to call her my President and hope and pray she runs in '08.

Hoorah! Go Condie go!

I like her too.

brettw22

I have a problem with her teeth.....

However, I do not have a problem with David Letterman's teeth......

Why you ask? David's job is to make me laugh

unc2701

MacLeod wrote:

Im not kidding. Im dead serious.

I think Condoleeza Rice would be a great President and Id vote for her in a heartbeat.

She is my favorite politician right now.

I think she'd be great, too. Hell, I feel sorry for her seeing as how she could run mental circles around Bush any day of the week and she's gotta put up with him as a boss. Thing is, she's republican, female and black and not a politician (apart from the litteral, "person experienced in government" ).

The politician point I can conceed, she's been a national figure long enough to have what it takes to get elected, but you gotta recognize that being a department secretary/ appointed advisor is very different form participating in the election process and the personality needed for that.

The real problem is for her to get elected. You gotta pull basically everyone from your party and more of the independents than the other guy. Being black and female, there's a chunk of the population (from both parties and independents) that WILL NOT vote for her no matter what. It's sad, and nothing like it might have been 50 or even 10 years ago, but true. Now, this might be slightly be offset by pulling the black vote, but these days, the republican party isn't too popular with them. I think the president has something like a 4% approval rating among blacks... throw in the demographic spread and it gets you nothing.

Now, if it was her and Hillary, rice would win, no problem. 'cause if the ballot was,say, Hillary vs Satan, you'd have to do a runoff in about 20 states. I can't believe that Hillary is actually thinking about running and that democrats are actually thinking about voting for her. Personally, I've got my money on Edwards, assuming that his wife's cancer doesn't enter in to it.

MacLeod

I disagree.

Granted, its a loooong way til election day and a ton can happen but just guessing from the hip here, I think she would win pretty easy. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans have anybody worthwhile to put up. Pretty much all their potential candidates are a joke (i.e. Al Gore, John Kerry, John McCain, Bill Frist). Condie would stand head and shoulders above them and the Republican base would rally behind her. Hell they already are! There are quite a few "Draft Condie" groups getting fired up and in most recent straw pull polls held at conventions, her name is always near the top.

As far as the neanderthols that wouldnt vote for her because she's black and female, well I think those would be offset. I agree with you that theyre spread across party lines and the ones on the left wouldnt vote for anybody on the right regardless who, what or what color they were so they dont count anyway. The rednecks on the right may not vote for her but she would more than make up for them by getting the black and female votes that would normally go to the left.

Demiurge

She'd have a rough time if she was pro-choice or didn't clarify her stance.

MacLeod

That would hurt her with the Bible thumpers but I still say that the racist, sexist and Bible thumper votes she may lose would be more than made up by her getting votes from Democrats that a Republican normally wouldnt get.

Again, judging by the grass roots swell of support she's getting over here on the right, I dont think she'd lose many votes from the right.

unc2701

There have been five black senators in the history of the US. The biggest shift hasn't been in people's willingness to vote for a black or female canidate, but rather their reluctance to admit they wouldn't in a poll. The first black female senator wasn't until 1993. I just don't think that the US is there yet... kinda sad.

Anyhow, the Republican party is such a weird coalition that the real problem would be getting past a primary. I mean, look at Utah. Can a mildly pro choice black female really carry the most republican state in the US? She'd get destroyed by anyone else running.

cheddar

It would get really ugly for her. I think she would make a fine president, but she would be under attack at first from the right on issues. Then from the left as they try to make her a cartoon caricature of herself. They'll make comments about her looks, being uncle tom, throw oreos at her during speeches, dig up whatever irrelevant dirt they can... The left has a mud slinging machine that pulls no punches towards republican blacks in part because they can get prominent blacks to sling mud at one of their own.

She has the strength to survive it. But would she want to? :rolleyes:

tommyboy

unc2701 wrote:

I just don't think that the US is there yet... kinda sad.

and we won't for a long time. I feel that racism against blacks is almost as bad as it was in the 1960s. Yes I know there are no white only drinking fountains and restarants, but thats because they (some, definitly not all) aren't aloud too anymore. I think she can be a good candidate for president, but if she makes a mistake, some whites would blame her color more than her decision. Some you might think thats a little extreme, but I have a couple racists friends that a soon as they see a black person, they think of them as stupid, waste of life, etc... I always say to them, well if they are really that stupid, didn't you make them that way?

it makes me sick how segregated whites are from blacks. Why is there BET (black entertainment television), black history month, i know there is a lot more that I just can't think of... These are just here to seperate our two races even more.

Alright, this thread has seen it all, hasn't it:)

Skynut

Condie would be the only choice if she were up against Hillary.
Put another man up against Hillary and she may stand a chance just because of the female thing.

Just because Condie is not political is no reason to think she won't have a chance. The way I see it, this country is tired of politicians and is primed to have a non-politician win an election.
Remember Ross Perot? I think his real appeal was that he was a regular guy with regular guy views on how to manage the country.

Condie has that same appeal, her feet seem firmly planted on the earth as opposed to Hillary who is firmly imbedded in politics.