Flag burning...

machineman

PolkThug wrote:

My favorite holiday is the 4th of July. At my party we had a cake with the American Flag on it (purchased from the grocery store) and the napkins had the flag on them. Am I being patriotic, or should I have my **** kicked for cutting the flag cake and wiping my mouth with my flag napkins?

Afterwords, the flag tablecloth was pretty messy so I threw it away.

Shizelbs

ohskigod wrote:

what did I miss?

Senate missed the votes necessary to amend the Constitution to ban flag burning by one vote.

steveinaz

Here you go flag burners:

unc2701

Didn't pass the senate. Thank god... those a--holes have a lot of better stuff to be doing than messing with the constitution. 'course they've also been doing other things like giving themselves raises, so maybe the flag debate kept them out of trouble for a few days.

mrbigbluelight

unc2701 wrote:

Didn't pass the senate. Thank god... those a--holes have a lot of better stuff to be doing than messing with the constitution. 'course they've also been doing other things like giving themselves raises, so maybe the flag debate kept them out of trouble for a few days.

Magicians call it "misdirection".

In the Senate and House of Representatives, it should be called "BS".


I see a flag burner, I think to myself, "What a great country this is".

cfrizz

It's a very minor issue! Focus on getting our troops home, closing our borders to illegal aliens, The mess our health care system is in, The shortfall in SS benefits for those of us who have yet to retire, etc. etc! The list is endless!

Wasting time trying to change a document that gives these morons the freedom to burn the flag is simply a stupid political stunt! Get back to work on the real important issues that face this country!

unc2701

I've been trying to find the exact stats, but as far as I can tell the number of recorded flag burning incidents down for 2006 by 33% from this time last year. There were 6 through July in 2005 and 4 this year.

Now. Please fix the freakin' budget.

Demiurge

cfrizz wrote:

It's a very minor issue! Focus on getting our troops home, closing our borders to illegal aliens, The mess our health care system is in, The shortfall in SS benefits for those of us who have yet to retire, etc. etc! The list is endless!

Wasting time trying to change a document that gives these morons the freedom to burn the flag is simply a stupid political stunt! Get back to work on the real important issues that face this country!

Great argument for or against a constitutional amendment for burning the flag. :rolleyes:

Skynut

Don't know if this has been posted yet.

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W WALDECKER

machineman wrote:

Shame, shame, shame...Just shows the state our great nation is in. I just don't get what burning our flag and free speech have to do with each other.

its not freedom of speech its freedom of expression and should not require my, yours or anyone elses approval. the so called Patriot act bothers me alot more than flag burning.i dont agree with flag burning but i can agree to disagree and leave it at that.i love my rights, my flag and my country.

PolkThug

cfrizz wrote:

It's a very minor issue! Focus on getting our troops home, closing our borders to illegal aliens, The mess our health care system is in, The shortfall in SS benefits for those of us who have yet to retire, etc. etc! The list is endless!

Wasting time trying to change a document that gives these morons the freedom to burn the flag is simply a stupid political stunt! Get back to work on the real important issues that face this country!

Amen!

Frank Z

The door at the border swings both ways.

If you are too stupid to articulate your displeasure and have to inflame/incite by burning my flag...your message will never be heard.

steveinaz

Skynut wrote:

Don't know if this has been posted yet.

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Excellent video Sky.

PolkThug

This is my favorite flag story:

From a speech made by Capt. John S. McCain, US, (Rep) who represents Arizona in the U.S. Senate:
As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room. This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home.

One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian. Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old.

At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School. Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967.

Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country, and our military, provide for people who want to work and want to succeed. As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing. Mike got himself a bamboo needle.

Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American flag and sewed it on the inside of his shirt. Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance. I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell, it was indeed the most important and meaningful event.

One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it. That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of all us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours.

Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could. The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we slept. Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room. As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag.

zombie boy 2000

Unbelievable story....
incredibly moving no matter what side of the fence you're on

steveinaz

Talk about "courage of your convictions." Hell of a man. How's that country song go...

"You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything"

100% true. Flag burners are limped dick whiners who lack the courage to leave this place that they so hate, so they burn a flag.