The Da Vinci Code

wingnut4772

Neflixin this one.

shack

heiney9 wrote:

That's right........it's the churches mission to convert everyone to thier way of thinking and now it would be harder to turn the non-believers into believers :rolleyes: .

Actually...for a Christian...it is. Whether you care for it or not it is one of the basic tenets of Christianity. It is The Great Commission and was the last recorded personal instruction given by Jesus to his disciples and to all his followers to take specific action. You may or may not be familiar with it but it is as follows:

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20)

So this movie does make it more difficult for Christians to complete the task they believe they are charged with. They are not worried that "believers" will be influenced by the movie but that it will adversely influence the non believers.

You can take the information above any way you choose....but it is the basis for the Christian issues with the movie along with the way it portrays the the most important person to them to ever walk the face of the earth.

wingnut4772

Watched it today . Peeeeeew (holding my nose)

Shizelbs

Did you read the book?

wingnut4772

Shizelbs wrote:

Did you read the book?

Yep.

Shizelbs

You know what they say about someone that makes the same mistake twice.

Did you like the book?

wingnut4772

Shizelbs wrote:

You know what they say about someone that makes the same mistake twice.

Did you like the book?

Yep.

rskarvan

Just finished reading "Angels and Demons"... the prequil to D-code. Fabulous book about the Illuminati and the Vatican.

mrbigbluelight

wingnut4772 wrote:

Yep.

That's something you don't see everyday ......

..... a woman of few words.

wingnut4772

mrbigbluelight wrote:

That's something you don't see everyday ......

..... a woman of few words.

yep.:D

bobman1235

rskarvan wrote:

Just finished reading "Angels and Demons"... the prequil to D-code. Fabulous book about the Illuminati and the Vatican.

I enjoyed both books a lot, but seriously, they're almost the same book. They actually plan on making Angels and Demons into a movie soon, but witha slightly different plot to fit in better with the Da Vinci Code.

BottomFeeder

In any event, the language of the Bible is Aramaic.[/QUOTE]

Not true. The Old Testament is written in Hebrew and the New Testament is written almost entirely in Greek, with a small portion in Aramaic.

BottomFeeder

The problem that Christians have with Dan Brown's book is that in the introduction he claims that everything within is "fact." So when many, if not most, read the book or watch the movie, they believe what the author has stated - that it's "fact." I've talked with many people who read the book and believed just that. Much of Dan Brown's work is based on shoddy research and is no where near fact. Not one Bible scholar the world over - not one - endorses his book as accurate.
If Brown hadn't stated that his book was "fact," it'd be easy to dismiss it, even enjoy it, as pure entertainment. That's the rub

Lsi9

entertaining fictional book, terrible movie, life goes on,

bobman1235

BottomFeeder wrote:

The problem that Christians have with Dan Brown's book is that in the introduction he claims that everything within is "fact." So when many, if not most, read the book or watch the movie, they believe what the author has stated - that it's "fact." I've talked with many people who read the book and believed just that. Much of Dan Brown's work is based on shoddy research and is no where near fact. Not one Bible scholar the world over - not one - endorses his book as accurate.
If Brown hadn't stated that his book was "fact," it'd be easy to dismiss it, even enjoy it, as pure entertainment. That's the rub

That's an exaggeration - he says it's based on real research, he doesn't say it's fact. No one can claim to know any facts about the life of Jesus, because there's no one who was there. There's plenty of Biblical scholars who agree with some of his assertions - not all, but some. Most notably that he and Mary Magdalene were married.

BottomFeeder

bobman1235 wrote:

That's an exaggeration - he says it's based on real research, he doesn't say it's fact. No one can claim to know any facts about the life of Jesus, because there's no one who was there. There's plenty of Biblical scholars who agree with some of his assertions - not all, but some. Most notably that he and Mary Magdalene were married.

I wish I still had the book, but Brown does indeed state in his introduction that his work is "fact."
And while it may be true that a handful of scholars agree with some of Brown's assertions, none of them are considered to be conservative, mainstream and therefore trusted scholars.

bobman1235

I have the book right here. The three things he says are facts in the prologue :

1. The Priory of Sion is a real organization.
2. Opus Dei is a real sect.
3. QUOTE : All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals in this novel are accurate.

Nowhere does it say that his interpretations are "fact" or accurate. I'm sorry that someone's novel casts aspersions at your beliefs, but don't be one of the nutsos who condemns a guy for writing fiction, or even for interpreting 2000 year old documents differently than most. If you want, just disagree with him and move on.

BottomFeeder

The problem for many who've read the book is that Brown never states when his comments are "interpretations" and when they're "fact." He makes it extremely difficult - impossible - to discern between the two. That's where the danger lies. Brown weaves interpretation together with fact, but never clearly labels the two. That's what makes his book confusing when it comes to what's real and what's made up.

If someone writes a novel about World War 2, they're free to interpret and make things up, but when they write about things that really happened in the war, they'd better get those things right. When Brown writes about the Bible and about things that can be historically known with accuracy, he gets many things flat wrong.

I'm not a "nutso" and I don't condemn Brown for writing the book. If you're interested, you could learn a lot by reading the book "The DaVinci Code - Fact or Fiction," by scholars Hank Hanegraaff & Paul Maier.

Now I'll take your encouragement and "just disagree with him and move on."
Take care and good chatting with you.

hearingimpared

I'm a spiritual Bible-believing Christian and couldn't care less what Dan Brown writes.

Lsi9

he does blur the line between fact and fiction...as far as architecture, that in itself is false because there is no second smaller pyramid in the louvre especially one containing the holy grail
but at the end of the day he has a right to write whatever he wants and we have a right to read it or not.

bobman1235

Lsi9 wrote:

he does blur the line between fact and fiction...as far as architecture, that in itself is false because there is no second smaller pyramid in the louvre especially one containing the holy grail

Sigh

Pics.



Of course it doesn't contain the Holy Grail, if one exists. That's the thing about fiction. It's not true.

Roy Munson

Originally posted by BottomFeeder:
The problem for many who've read the book is that Brown never states when his comments are "interpretations" and when they're "fact." He makes it extremely difficult - impossible - to discern between the two. That's where the danger lies. Brown weaves interpretation together with fact, but never clearly labels the two. That's what makes his book confusing when it comes to what's real and what's made up.

The problem for many that have read the book is that they don't seem to get the fact that it's a novel and the author doesn't need to discern fact from fiction! It's presented as a novel and nothing more! If you go to the non-fiction section of the book store you won't find The Davinci Code.

Do you have a problem separating fact from fiction in a Steven King novel? Does King need to draw a road map for his readers so that they won't get upset about something he writes?

The whole controversy over the book and the movie imo is just a knee-jerk reaction and is much ado about nothing!

MLZ

MacLeod wrote:

Its not shaking peoples faith, its upsetting a bunch of namby pamby judgemental a-holes and unfortunately, those are usually religious people. I have a feeling the vast majority of Christians see this as nothing more than another worthless offering from Hollywood.

I myself am looking forward to seeing it. I love stuff like this. Not the religious part but the idea that a big to-do has been hidden in artifacts thruout history. Thats why I thought National Treasure couldve been so good.....it wasnt but it couldve been.

If this was about Islam instead of the Catholic's, everyone connected to the book and movie would be in fear for their lives ala Salmon Rushdie

PolkThug

BottomFeeder wrote:

That's what makes his book confusing when it comes to what's real and what's made up.

Just like the Bible.

cfrizz

I just picked this up a couple of days ago. Looking forward to seeing it.

MacLeod

That is what is causing all the controversy. Too many people trying to discern fact from fiction. The answer is real simple - ITS ALL FICTION!

Its a story written by a dude. Nothing more nothing less. Its not an attack on or affirmation of anything. Its just a story that was turned into a pretty good movie. I enjoyed it and will eventually buy it once it hits the $9.99 rack at Blockbuster.

hearingimpared

PolkThug wrote:

Just like the Bible.

Ya heathen you!:D