New Cables On The Way

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,643
edited May 2006 in 2 Channel Audio
Im taking full advantage of my "discount" at my new job.

I ordered $400 bucks worth of cables. I wont tell you how much I paid though.

Regardless - Ive gone to the dark side.

Monster Cable Powerline 300 (2) - $200.00 A Pair
http://www.monstercable.com/power/productPagePower.asp?pin=1072&LastPage=Power%20Cords

Monster Cable Powerline 100 (1) - $30.00
http://www.monstercable.com/productPage.asp?pin=1075

Monster Cable Studio Pro 1000 Microphone Cable (XLR) (2) - $160.00 A Pair
http://www.monstercable.com/productPage.asp?pin=2312

Im ordering them tommorow except for the 100, we had them in the store. Cant wait to see how these things are, they should be effing STOUT.
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2006
    That job is contaminating your better judgment.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    Man...

    If you only knew the mark up on Monster products.

    You remove the mark up, and you would have to be retarded NOT to buy them if you were looking for cables.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited May 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    That job is contaminating your better judgment.

    LMFAO!!!:D:D First Sid goes for studio monitors and now Monster. The Audioquest knights are gonna go after your ****! j/k;)

    Sid,
    I think I have a pretty good idea how much you paid:). That's awesome. Take advantage of the discount you're given. That's what I do at my workplace and I get to eat 5 steaks a week for very cheap:cool:.

    I'm sure your rig is going to sound great. Let us know how the Monster sounds.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    The Studio Monitors - have not failed to amaze me yet. Something about the way they voice the singer+drums and the center image that draws me to listen to them man. I love* that strong center image, the "body" given to it. Mezmorizing (sp). They do the side staging good as well, but the center imaging sold me on them. That and their price.

    I would like to mod them - but they use active crossovers, I dont have a clue where to start.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2006
    Loser.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited May 2006
    Funny you mentioned the center image thing. I was working on that same exact thing last night. Did more experimentation on toe-in and tilting and got a very strong and focused center sound. The drums have more body and transients now. I might give those monitors a try one day.

    As to mods, have you opened up the speakers yet? If the circuit board is easy to work with, you can start by upgrading the caps.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    Oddly enough, I have not opened them up yet.

    I know at $340 a pair, regardless of how good they sound - they could use some upgrading - SOME WHERE. Ill open them up one day, Im kind of more cautious due to the amps within, last thing I want to find is a nice ol cap full of juice. hehe...

    These Monitors, even if you dont want them at regular range due to volume restrictions - they would make an EXCELLENT computer/gaming system and beyond or in a 6-8 foot listening setup.

    We sell some Tapco monitors which are absolutely kick@$$, but cost a bit more, I want to give them a shot - but they cost a bit much.

    PS: Those that are coming to the Gathering - I will be hauling around a Behringer Truth Setup (Subwoofer + The monitors I have)...

    They will also be for sale at the gathering, but their main purpose is for demo.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited May 2006
    lol true. If you decide to upgrade the caps, make sure you discharge them first. I just hope they didn't cramp everything in a tiny area, that way it's easier to work on them.

    The limited volume is not a problem. I like to use monitors for low volume and soft music. That's what my RT15i do once in a while.

    Are those Tapco better than your Behringer?

    So when are you getting a tube pre?;)
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    The Tapcos, all Ive heard them on are reproducing some expensive Keyboards. But they use a soft dome tweeter and an AMAZING midbass/woofer. Tapco is a Mackie company (from what Ive read/seen) - they have like a 1"+ thick enclosure, with absolutely thunderous bass...

    But from what Ive heard, they have alot of detail and such, but like I said - just heard them on Keyboards. Id like to hear them in a Home setting - but the Behringers aside from sound were attractive to me due to their price, even at full retail. The Tapcos cost about 2-300 more (retail).

    Tube pre is far far away for me.

    There is a long list of tools to go through before I reach down into the audio list again. Im just getting mains/stereo back together after unloading everything ya know? The cables were just part of the path.

    Were you tweaking the center image of your Klipsch? When you're tweaking them, are you sacrificing any side imaging?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited May 2006
    I'm sure you paid what they are worth, nothing more.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2006
    I'm waiting on bended knee for a cable shootout....that will be so interesting, I might just drop my pants.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    Bended Knee?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2006
    knee pads
    :p
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
    Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2006
    enjoy your new cables Sid :rolleyes:

    I hope i make it to PF06. i'll bring some cables too. That's about all i can haul that far. ;)
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
    Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited May 2006
    let me guess, you got 60% off retail. If you get any better, I'm getting a new job :)
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
    game hardware: 360 and gcn.
    Gamertag: kovster27
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited May 2006
    Too bad your store doesn't sell bose. You would be totally hooked up then... :eek:
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    I couldnt work at a store that sold Bose. I could get a 99% discount off Bose and I most likely wouldnt buy them.

    I take that back, Id buy them and sell them on EBay.

    I view Monster as a good quality product - just over-priced. But Im not paying full retail - so its all good.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited May 2006
    Hey Sid,

    Shoot me an email when you get a chance. There are a couple things I'd like to pass on to you that might be interested in for the future: www.holcombavt.com

    Edit: Guess I should have put the acutal email address instead of just my website(note to self-get more sleep)
    Tschüss
    Zach
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    Email Shot.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    I received my XLRs today - the power cables havnt arrived yet...

    The XLRs are TWICE as thick as the Signal Cable XLRs - and they should be, they cost 100 more as far as retail goes. But I am very impressed with their build quality - it is 2 or 3 steps above Signal in every aspect. But like I said, I wont be able to hear them until my power cables arrive.

    Will return.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    My power cables are backordered, so I called and tried to get them to get something to me called the Powerline 300 and they said they should have two out to me by Thursday (next week). Cool.

    Meanwhile I plug my new XLRs up with the original power cables - radio problem still not gone, I move power cables around and problem decreases - talk about some POS stock cables. Some of the worst Ive ever seen. I am interested in seeing if the problem goes away when I get these new power cables. If they dont, Im gonna have to give them a ring and raise some hell - buy 400 bucks worth of cables and their effing radio problem isnt solved, thatd be some BS.

    Anyways - the XLRs are insane - removed all traces of steril and harsh sound in the tweeter that was apparent before. The bass is far supperrior it seems, much more detail from the sub with that new power cable.

    These speakers sound so large and dynamic, its rediculous...

    Id love to hear a pair of speakers that cost the same/less that even came close to these.

    This hobby is fun!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,335
    edited May 2006
    Glad to hear you're happy Sid. I've been wanting to try XLR's, but my pre/pro has RCA only. So does my CDP. When I eventually replace these pieces, they will have XLR's.
    Carl

  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited May 2006
    I worked for 2 companies that I had the ability to buy Monster, After testing and trying other cables, I got all of the monster I owned out of my system.

    But your right about the price, a good deal is a good deal but if your current cables sound better then the deal isn't so good. I purchased alot of Kimber Kable when I had the ability to own top of the line Monster for less money. I still liked the Kimber cables alot better so spending the extra money was well worth it.

    Your system , you decide whats right and whats wrong for it. Not the people in here.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited May 2006
    Meanwhile I plug my new XLRs up with the original power cables - radio problem still not gone, I move power cables around and problem decreases - talk about some POS stock cables. Some of the worst Ive ever seen. I am interested in seeing if the problem goes away when I get these new power cables. If they dont, Im gonna have to give them a ring and raise some hell - buy 400 bucks worth of cables and their effing radio problem isnt solved, thatd be some BS.

    Is the cable causing the radio interference? It's more likey the amps inside the speaker isn't it? I guess you will find out.

    If it were me, 1 out of 10 pair have this problem, I would return them and get another pair.

    Russ
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited May 2006
    Even though cables can receive RF signals it doesn't mean they are. You could plug in a particular cable and start receiving RF because it impedence matches some unprotected line in a piece of equipment. I wouldn't raise too much hell if it still exists.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    Here is why I think its the cable...

    When I move the cable (like if I loop it over the cabinet) - the problem goes away/is decreased.

    However, if the problem is not gone when I get this Monsterous power cable in the loop, I will be giving Behringer a call. And I will not be paying for it either. There is no excuse to know this happens 1 out of 10 times and not fix it. LAME.

    The Monsters cost a lil more than my Signal XLRs did (but are also 7 feet longer - which makes them the same price in reality) - but regardless, the Monsters are 2-3 times the cable the Signals were. So to me it is well worth it...

    The Behringers could indeed be causing the interference - which is very likely, as someone has said - but I figure if my cable upgrade dosnt solve it - that will eliminate theory B from the equation.

    Also, I had another pair in here before this (the floor model) and they did the same thing... so... I think its more so my ROOM (Location) than the actual speaker.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    Well my power cables arrived today! FINALLY!

    The cable is well built, I miss my tech flex sleave though - but its ok. Its not quite as thick as my Zebra power cable (maybe 1/16" off), but is a tad thicker than the Signal Magic Power Cable thats made its way through here from what I remember.

    From what I can tell from initial comparisons, they are well worth the money - the power cables made a nice change - more listening!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited May 2006
    Better then a Signal Magic Cable in sound?????????





    Boy have you step'd over on dark side.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,643
    edited May 2006
    You can trounce these cables all you want...

    But this Power Cable (and the XLR) is no slouch.

    The power cable has 760 strands of copper, THREE different types of shielding...

    Just a monsterous cable. The XLR is as thick as Signals 13 awg (2 runs of pos negative in the sleave) cable...

    Excellent built cables and they sound darn good.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.