Teacher Arrested for Sexy Video

BIZILL

i'd like to hear R Kelly chime in on the subject...:rolleyes:

cfrizz

What I'm saying is if he had been raised properly he would have been taught that it is wrong and illegal to have sex with an adult & he should be waiting for the special person & the right time & age to be doing such mature things that can have great consequences.

It's about teaching a child that just cause he has an urge to do something with someone else he shouldn't just go ahead & do it. I would rather you teach him how to **** by himself rather than tell him to go get someone to shag whether adult or another child!

It's all about parents being parents & actually keeping track of their children & what they are doing & with whom!

BIZILL

cfrizz wrote:

I would rather you teach him how to **** by himself

now son, be sure not to neglect the 'berries'...;)

Demiurge

Have you ever given a foot massage?

Toxis

"And here's what your ol' man calls the stranger."

"See... feels like someone else is doing it!"

Not exactly what I call Bonding Time but I guess if it works for you.

BTW, a 14 year old (unless raised super religious) is thinking about touching boobies if not having sex all the time. Hell, I know I was. But I guess I wasn't raised right because I started at the tender age of 13... with two different ladies that summer (17 and 14). Damn you mom and dad!!!!!

thehaens@cox.net

cfrizz wrote:

This statement is basically telling me that you condone his behavior when what you should be doing is calling the police to report the pedophile & kicking you son's **** for not having the slightest bit of self control!

He is certainly old enough to know better & should have been taught that this is wrong at such a young age.

This is precisely why society is so messed up today. There is supposed to be a major difference between us & lower life animals. It only happens if parents are truly parents & take their kids in hand & teach them the difference between right & wrong, & discipline & self control. Not, do it just don't get caught & don't forget to use a condom!

I am not condoning it. What would bother me is if he F'd up his childhood w/ getting someone pregnant. Could be an older woman, or it could be a young gal. Doesn't matter how old she is. I am in the belief that anyone that hasn't at least finished his/her education, without some form of income, be it career or otherwise shouldn't be out trying to raise/have children. It isn't fair to the child. Now think about the situation I was talking about. It was between my wife and I having a discussion. The damage (in this case the sex) was already done. She asked me if it were our son, and was the same situation how would I feel about it. Well I can't take back what was done. The more important statement in my comment was "did you use a condom" I can't take back what was done.........

TroyD

Frank Z wrote:

When you grow up, move out of the basement, get married, have kids of your own...come back and spout the same ****. :rolleyes:

Thank you Frank. The 14 year old that DID have the maturity would be the one who would have stayed away and reported her.

BDT

thehaens@cox.net

BIZILL wrote:

now son, be sure not to neglect the 'berries'...;)

That is some funny shite.........

BIZILL

Toxis wrote:

"And here's what your ol' man calls the stranger."

"See... feels like someone else is doing it!"

Not exactly what I call Bonding Time but I guess if it works for you.

BTW, a 14 year old (unless raised super religious) is thinking about touching boobies if not having sex all the time. Hell, I know I was. But I guess I wasn't raised right because I started at the tender age of 13... with two different ladies that summer (17 and 14). Damn you mom and dad!!!!!

i have you beat...

BIZILL

...consentually, mind you.

cfrizz

WAAA! Ok let's rephrase this! LOL!

I would rather you TELL him that it is perfectly ok to **** to relieve those urges of his until the right time, woman, maturity has come along to experience it with someone.:D

cfrizz

I didn't realize you had personalized it, I thought you were still talking about the kid & teacher. Sorry if I offended.

The more important aspect for me is that it should be self control first. Especially at 14 yrs of age! If you utilize that, you won't have to worry about getting some girl's life f'd up with an unwanted pregnancy as well as your own.

If that fails then yeah use a condom & make sure you ask her if she is on BCP's.

But nowadays most boys/men head for the hills & take 0 responsibility for what they have done.

thehaens@cox.ne wrote:

I am not condoning it. What would bother me is if he F'd up his childhood w/ getting someone pregnant. Could be an older woman, or it could be a young gal. Doesn't matter how old she is. I am in the belief that anyone that hasn't at least finished his/her education, without some form of income, be it career or otherwise shouldn't be out trying to raise/have children. It isn't fair to the child. Now think about the situation I was talking about. It was between my wife and I having a discussion. The damage (in this case the sex) was already done. She asked me if it were our son, and was the same situation how would I feel about it. Well I can't take back what was done. The more important statement in my comment was "did you use a condom" I can't take back what was done.........

thehaens@cox.net

cfrizz wrote:

The more important aspect for me is that it should be self control first. Especially at 14 yrs of age! If you utilize that, you won't have to worry about getting some girl's life f'd up with an unwanted pregnancy as well as your own.

If that fails then yeah use a condom & make sure you ask her if she is on BCP's.

But nowadays most boys/men head for the hills & take 0 responsibility for what they have done.

What 14 year old boy has self control? When the time comes, (again my son is 8), I can only hope that we have given him enough information for him to make the responsibile choice/decision.

scott

cfrizz

How about when he comes home talking about some girl he likes, taking him into his room grabbing him by his jewels & tell him that if he wants to keep them then his little friend stays zipped into his pants! Cause if some girl comes knocking on the door saying she's preggers w/ your son's kid you are going to cut his jewels off right in front of her!:D

Fear is a wonderful inspiration for self control. It's all about being a parent not a friend! They are not going to have it, so it is up to you to have it for them & be willing to enforce it!

That is the largest failure of parents today.

thehaens@cox.ne wrote:

What 14 year old boy has self control? When the time comes, (again my son is 8), I can only hope that we have given him enough information for him to make the responsibile choice/decision.

scott

danger boy

I hate to do this.. but.. with a show of hands.. how many people think:

1. the 14 yr old boy is lucky to have had sex with his teacher at that age?

2. who thinks the boy should have told another adult? ie: principal/parent/school admin

3. who thinks the teacher did the right thing by enticing the boy into sex?

4. who thinks it's wrong for ANY minor to have sex with any adult?

5. who thinks that if this happen to their son at the age of 14 they would not be upset?

6. who thinks that if this happen to their son at the age of 14 they would be extremely upset?

7. who thinks the boy should take things into his own hand(s) next time?

Demiurge

Like almost all poll questions with complex answers, they're extremely flawed.

steveinaz

What's a grown woman want with a "hung like a hamster" 14 yr old anyway?

This chicks got issues....

danger boy

steveinaz wrote:

What's a grown woman want with a "hung like a hamster" 14 yr old anyway?

This chicks got issues....

I don't know either. but in the Mary Kay Latournau case here is a quote about the 13 yr old boy in that case.. "He was renowned for his -- let's just say maturity -- and charm." use your imagination where the -- is. And i think you get your answer.

Don't hate me, I'm just the messsenger.

sucks2beme

Her and others like her are sick. The problem is, it's not just a one time fling for them. They appear to keep coming back, regardless of legal problems and jail time. They become obsessed with these boys. As an adult, I might be able to deal with these psycho women(yes, I ran into a couple!), but a boy can't. I think the boy Latournau seduced is completely messed up now and will never get his life straight.
As in FATAL ATTRACTION, they will NOT BE IGNORED. Sounds funny until it's your rabbit they're boiling.

DarqueKnight

It is interesting to note that these female pedophiles, like their male counterparts who prey on young girls, typically choose teenage boys who come from troubled family backgrounds. As others have mentioned, it is not about sex, it is about exercising control over an emotionally immature child.

In every high school there are always more than a few guys who consider themselves "cool" and who revel in bragging of their (real or imagined) sexual conquests. Sure, some of these guys would be thrilled to screw their "hot" history teacher until she lapses into a coma. Strangely enough, it seems that these female statutory rapists prefer the sweet, quiet type of boy who is emotionally needy and comes from an unstable, unhappy home environment. You know, the type of boy who will fall in love with them...the type of boy who will build their world around them and always be at their beck and call. Adult males usually cannot be so accommodating.

Male pedophiles use the same tactics. Have you noticed that male pedophiles typically DO NOT choose the promiscuous teenage girl who is physically mature for her age? Nah...they usually go for sweet, innocent little girls who haven't physically developed into anything even remotely resembling a mature woman. If a grown woman walked up and offered them some ****, they would probably piss in their pants and faint.

Whether the perpetrator is male or female, I think pedophilia is a horribly revolting crime. I find the hypocracy and double standards in the criminal justice system equally revolting. Just because the perpetrator in this case is an attractive female, it somehow makes it "o.k" and the teenage "beneficiary" is now elligible for bragging rights. If the perpetrator were some putrid, grey haired old lady, I assume there would be more sympathy for the victim(s) and more outrage for this crime. I won't even address the outrage that would ensue if the genders were reversed.

It is quite easy for an adult male to project fantasies of sex with an attactive female teacher onto a teenage boy. I ask you to consider the power dynamic between a high school student and a teacher. If any of you had been sexually propositioned by a very attactive teacher while you were in high school, would you have felt flattered by the attention or would you have felt aprehensive? What about the implied coercive element of being propositioned by an authority figure? Would you have been worried about the repercussions if things went wrong? What if you said no? What if you said yes but later displeased her in some way? If you received a bad grade for the work you did in bed, would this have some influence on your grades for legitimate school work? Usually, if you piss off one teacher you usually are on the outs with one or more other teachers by default. They do talk to each other...a lot.

Since we like to fantasize about having sex with a "hot" teacher, let us move to a non-pedophilliac environment. Say, for example, you are an unattached heterosexual male college senior 21 years of age. On the first day of one of your major classes, in walks the most gorgeous female you have ever laid eyes on. It turns out that this gorgeous female is 26 years old, just received her Ph.D. a month ago, and is your major department's newest faculty member. All the males in the class (and perhaps some of the females) are driven to mad distraction by fantasies of having wild, hot, kinky sex with this HOT NEW PROFESSOR. After a couple of weeks of school, the hot new professor expresses some "special" interest in you. She makes it clear that she would be pleased if you would stop by her home so that she can help you with your "homework" (you lucky ****). She's not harassing you. There are no explicit threats that your grades will suffer if you don't "play ball". Wow, now you have the chance to make all your fantasies COME true. Would you GO FOR IT or would you worry about the possible complications of becoming involved with an authority figure who has some power and influence over your academic success? I presume your answer would depend on which head you do most of your thinking with. Good luck. Maybe you'll even go to the HEAD of the class.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that most of you guys reading this are neither in high school nor in college. Likewise, I will assume that most of you have a job of some kind. Let's say you are an adult, unattached, heterosexual male and your boss or even another manager at work is an extremely gorgeous female. She makes it known (but not in an aggressive, harassing way) that she is interested in having a sexual relationship with you. Are you going to jump at the opportunity (because she is soooooo fuggin' hot) or are you going to think twice about the complications and possible repercussions of engaging in a sexual relationship with an authority figure at work? What if you start something up and then things go sour? She does have power and she can hurt you professionally and economically, BUT, I assume that most of you would throw caution to the winds and JUST GO FOR IT. Just think of the bragging rights at the office water cooler.

mrbigbluelight

cfrizz wrote:

I would rather you teach him how to **** by himself rather than tell him to go get someone to shag whether adult or another child!

It's all about parents being parents & actually keeping track of their children & what they are doing & with whom!

that's where I headed south at a young age. I had to learn how to **** by myself (with a few visual aids, to be quite honest).

And......just a second please...

"Where you going ? Oh, okay. Hey ! Remember to take the Canon EOS 30D with you this time, you lucky SOB !!!"

....okay, where was I ? Oh, yeah. I agree that it is very important for parents to keep track of their children and what they are doing and with whom. It's also important for them to remember the importance of proper lighting and focal length, too.

Signed model releases is an issue that should not be ignored, either.

Polk65

Something I hope to see in my lifetime is equal punishment in every state for sex crimes against children.

The way it is now, judges hand down different judgements which don't come close to punishment for the crime. They must pay time for their crime, not a couple month sentence with parole.

Our society must send the unmistakable message that what these adults are doing to our children is wrong. Predator is a word to contemplate on when judging these people.

cfrizz

Outstanding Post!!!! Well Done!

All right Mr. BBL! Hopefully you saw where I revised my statement!:D

The fact is nowadays, men aren't teaching their boys to respect women & women aren't teaching their girls to respect themselves. This lack of respect on all sides leads to trouble & to future generations of disrespectful people.

Leaving predatory jerks like this woman to take advantage & do even more damage.

Polk65 I totally agree!

bikezappa

CFRIZZ

Men and women are different with regard to sex at any age. Lenny Bruce put it best to me with this short story.

Man gets hit by a bus and has broken his arm and leg. He gets loaded into the ambulance and notices that the medic is a pretty women. He makes a play at the women.

To most women this is disgusting and unthinkable but it is how testosterone works on a persons brain.

Peter

HiPerf360

Shizelbs wrote:

I wish I had known that 14 years are irresistable to grown women. I would have worked that angle hard back then.

No shi...

All thoes wasted years....

cfrizz

This might be true Peter. However, with proper training from parents at home this behavior can be self controlled.

I watched my father teach my 2 brothers to treat women with respect. I remember him telling them that it was not proper to hit a woman. He showed his sons how to treat women by his own example of how he treated our mother.

My brother will stand up if sitting when introduced to a woman, he will open a door & let us out first. Etc. etc.

My brother's fiancee practically had to hit him over the head to get him to finally realize that SHE was ready to take their relationship to the next level! Because it was drilled into him by our father that putting the moves on a woman before she was ready was wrong! They were/are each others best friends long before they became lovers! But she really appreciates that fact. She was sick & tired of dealing with dogs disguised as men!

I'm tired of men using the tired excuse that they are wired different. The only thing that is different is that these boys and men have not been taught any manners!

Both sexes have hormones! When I'm in the right mood you probably wouldn't survive the attack. However, I'm not going to throw myself & you or any other man just cause my hormones are acting up!

Stop using your hormones as an excuse to act like a dog & start acting like a thinking intelligent respectful men!

bikezappa wrote:

CFRIZZ

Men and women are different with regard to sex at any age. Lenny Bruce put it best to me with this short story.

Man gets hit by a bus and has broken his arm and leg. He gets loaded into the ambulance and notices that the medic is a pretty women. He makes a play at the women.

To most women this is disgusting and unthinkable but it is how testosterone works on a persons brain.

Peter

cfrizz

This conversation has been all over the map! To bring it back to the main point, This 14 yr old boy was stalked & molested by a pedophile. Trying to make it seem that he was very fortunate to have this happen is crazy!

People will probably see how fortunate he was sometime in the future like the Letourneau kid.

bikezappa

cfrizz

If a man rapes a women or girl, the female doesn't need to cooperate for the act to be completed. Force can be used by the man to rape. Yes, this is disgusting and must be punished.

If a women rapes a man or boy, the male needs an erection for the act to be completed. For a male to have an erection he must want to cooperate. I don't think I would be damaged by a women that wanted to have sex with me at age 14. That is if I was attracted to an older women at age 14 I think i would enjoy the sex, but that's just me.

Now I'm not talking about anal rape here just straight sex.

With regard to testosterone, a woman can become a man with many of the male charateristics by just injecting testosterone, men with damaged balls need testosterone to keep their face hair and sex drive. Unfortunatly these chemicals determine many of our male/female behaviors. I agree with cfrizz that men should and can control these behaviors with women. I think a man that rapes and is convicted 2 times should have his balls/testosterone removed...

Peter

Paul in Canada

bikezappa wrote:

cfrizz

If a man rapes a women or girl, the female doesn't need to cooperate for the act to be completed. Force can be used by the man to rape. Yes, this is disgusting and must be punished.

If a women rapes a man or boy, the male needs an erection for the act to be completed. For a male to have an erection he must want to cooperate. I don't think I would be damaged by a women that wanted to have sex with me at age 14. That is if I was attracted to an older women at age 14 I think i would enjoy the sex, but that's just me.

Now I'm not talking about anal rape here just straight sex.

With regard to testosterone, a woman can become a man with many of the male charateristics by just injecting testosterone, men with damaged balls need testosterone to keep their face hair and sex drive. Unfortunatly these chemicals determine many of our male/female behaviors. I agree with cfrizz that men should and can control these behaviors with women. I think a man that rapes and is convicted 2 times should have his balls/testosterone removed...

Peter

You make some good points. Peter should run for Prez.

bikezappa

If I run for prez then I would become a liar.