United 93

aaharvel
aaharvel Posts: 4,489
edited April 2 in Clubhouse Archives
is anyone going to see this?
the trailer looks good, but of course that isn't the point.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/united93/
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,339
    edited April 2006
    Probably more drama and fiction than fact. I hate when Hollywood fat cats made money off of a human tragedy. Don't let the show biz kids make money, ignore this film and honor the brave souls who lost their lives to murderous terrorists.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2006
    Its not like it's NOT fresh in our minds, what happened simply 5 years ago. Why make a movie about it already? I, for one, will not see this.

    Besides, if they JUST released "Evidence from the Pentagon recording" this past month, what makes anyone think ANYONE truly knows what happened? Just doesn't make sense to already have a video out.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited April 2006
    don't put the cart before the horse.

    if you actually clicked on the link i provided you would have noticed a making of featurette, where the filmmakers not only interviewed the families of the 40 victims, but the families are also glad to see that this movie is being made and that it is overdue. Not only that, but the victims families were outside consultants in the making of.

    geesh people.. :rolleyes:
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited April 2006
    Im torn on this one.

    Part of me thinks it sucks that Hollywood is trying to capitalize on this story but then again part of me thinks people need to see this over and over to make sure we never forget what happened and the type of scum we're fighting here.

    AA is right tho, the film maker was very respectful in regards to the families and got the apporval of all the families involved before he would release it. Thats very stand up and my hats off to the guy.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,649
    edited April 2006
    I hate when Hollywood fat cats made money off of a human tragedy. Don't let the show biz kids make money, ignore this film


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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited April 2006
    too early, plain and simple. 10 yrs down the road, it would have more impact. we all remember it, its still fresh, at least in my mind. A movie will do absoluty nothing for m. just my opinion. this movie was made now because there is no good ideas in Hollywood.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2006
    With the attention span this country has....it's not even close to being too soon. I'm with Andrew.
  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited April 2006
    I agree, it's all about money. SAD, Very SAD.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2006
    It's a fictional story based on little to no actual fact....plain and simple. I could care less if he was Mr. Sensitive.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited April 2006
    It is my understanding that it is as factual as was possible going off the families versions and from flight recorders and so on. I realize its impossible to get everything right but its supposed to be pretty close.

    And Demi is right. You look at most polls today and the #1 thing most people are worried about is health care or gas prices. Some muslim scum detonating a nuculear (sic) bomb in New York is way down the list. Which is kind of ironic. $3/gas wont be too much of a concern if youre dead!
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  • hydrobud
    hydrobud Posts: 155
    edited April 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    With the attention span this country has....it's not even close to being too soon. I'm with Andrew.

    no kidding! rarely see any flags on cars anymore.
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited April 2006
    i don't have a flag on my car, nor do i have any "ribbons"- and I still think about 9/11 for at least 10seconds of every day.

    But, like MacLeod said, the war on terror is not the #1 on many people's list of issues. And it isn't on mine either. Sorry.
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  • POLKOHOLIC
    POLKOHOLIC Posts: 407
    edited April 2006
    MacLeod wrote:
    Some muslim scum detonating a nuculear (sic) bomb in New York is way down the list.

    I am very much offended by this statement because you are clearly stereotyping all muslims as being terrorists. I myself am muslim and hope you choose better words next time. Try replacing 'muslim scum' from your vocabulary with something more civilized. Im sure you can handle that.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited April 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    But, like MacLeod said, the war on terror is not the #1 on many people's list of issues. And it isn't on mine either. Sorry.

    Yup, and thats a damn shame.

    We're dealing with an entire group of people, supported by several countries, that want nothing but to destroy us. Like I said, all these other issues arent going to mean very much when a nuclear bomb is detonated in the middle of New York.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited April 2006
    POLKOHOLIC wrote:
    I am very much offended by this statement because you are clearly stereotyping all muslims as being terrorists. I myself am muslim and hope you choose better words next time. Try replacing 'muslim scum' from your vocabulary with something more civilized. Im sure you can handle that.

    I dont care that youre offended. I never said all muslims are terrorist, but all terrorists are muslims. And Im offended that there are millions of muslims out there, supported by muslim countries that are trying to kill us and whenever some travesty is commited by these muslim scum, I see no condemnation from the muslim community at large.

    They can fly planes into our buildings killing thousands of innocent people in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They can saw off the heads of innocent people and video tape it in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They can kidnap 3 school girls on their way to school and kill them in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They can take a school hostage and kill most of the children in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They can car bomb hospitals in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They throw bombs into hotels in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    Somebody draws a cartoon of muhamed or actually refers to terrorists as muslim and then all hell break loose. Theyre marching in the streets demonstrating their outrage. Not very civilized to me.

    This is one subject I refuse to be politically correct on. These terrorists ARE muslims and are supported by the vast majority of muslims so I have no problem identifying them as such.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited April 2006
    MacLeod wrote:
    I see no condemnation from the muslim community at large.

    They can fly planes into our buildings killing thousands of innocent people in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They can saw off the heads of innocent people and video tape it in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They can kidnap 3 school girls on their way to school and kill them in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They can take a school hostage and kill most of the children in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They can car bomb hospitals in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    They throw bombs into hotels in the name of islam and we see no muslim outrage.

    Somebody draws a cartoon of muhamed or actually refers to terrorists as muslim and then all hell break loose. Theyre marching in the streets demonstrating their outrage. Not very civilized to me.

    This is one subject I refuse to be politically correct on. These terrorists ARE muslims and are supported by the vast majority of muslims so I have no problem identifying them as such.


    pc or not, I've thought the same thing. the reaction to the mohamad pics was the worst (beside crashing planes into stuff, and most of the stuff Macleod allready mentioned.
    I might be considerred non PC or insensitive if I say this, but I still chuckle when I hear Islam is the religion of Love. I guess nothin says love like popping a gasket and blowin **** up.

    We Christians (Roman Catholics) caught heat for the whole pedophile thing (not that I'm the most religious guy mind you). I didnt get offended, I clearly stated that I thought it was disgusting. I didnt say, "how dare you generalize about all roman catholics being kid touchers, I'm offended". Stop being offended, get pissed off that these loons are destroying your religion, plain and simple. is your religion and tru faith in god important to you? the STEP THE EFF UP! or shut the yap



    fact is, non fundamentalist/normal minded/non frikkin lunatic muslims (which are the vast majority by the way) seem to be too afraid to speak out.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited April 2006
    aaharvel wrote:

    But, like MacLeod said, the war on terror is not the #1 on many people's list of issues. And it isn't on mine either. Sorry.


    if you lived 25 from port Newark, or NYC. its possible you might think differently. I dont think a terrorist attack is going to sashay to North Carolina any time soon
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited April 2006
    POLKOHOLIC wrote:
    I am very much offended by this statement because you are clearly stereotyping all muslims as being terrorists. I myself am muslim and hope you choose better words next time. Try replacing 'muslim scum' from your vocabulary with something more civilized. Im sure you can handle that.

    this offends me

    http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49865
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2006
    It's gonna be too fictional to even be associated with United 93. We all know how it ends. No point seeing this movie at all.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited April 2006
    ohskigod wrote:

    Un-f**king-believable.
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  • hydrobud
    hydrobud Posts: 155
    edited April 2006
    anyone anxious to see this one?

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited April 2006
    I'm happy to see films about this stuff. I think the event is very important to the US and the world and do not like the idea of being too PC to bring up the subject, make movies etc. Given the ways of the world these days it seems to me everyone would have rather ignored the whole tragidy. Next time I don't even expect the press to cover anything. Maybe a mention after the sportscast.
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  • hydrobud
    hydrobud Posts: 155
    edited April 2006
    i just hope oliver stone does this horrific event justice with his movie.
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited April 2006
    madmax wrote:
    Maybe a mention after the sportscast.

    No they will come interview that jerk pastor from Topeka to get his confirmation that we were afterall wrong again about our fights for freedom.:rolleyes:
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited April 2006
    hydrobud wrote:
    anyone anxious to see this one?

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    Looks like a movie about SDA-SRS speakers to me. Too Cool.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2006
    If you don't want people to forget about it, or want to teach your kids about it, buy them a newspaper and show them what Americans are doing in Iraq rather than stuff cash in some Hollywood clowns pocket.

    Then buy them a gallon of gas.
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited April 2006
    Why would anyone want to TEACH their children anything? That's the school's/TV's job. Clearly, you can't expect parents to do that sort of thing.

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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited April 2006
    My take, it is time to reaffirm to people why we are at war and the extremism that we are fighting.

    I would say this, see it this weekend or wait for DVD. 10% of the weekends take goes to the families.

    Mac and Lou, right there 100%. They seem to not get pissed about people being beheaded in public, blowing themselves up, trying to nuke US and Isreal, Rioting in France, burning down embassies, etc.. No outrage from that, but then you say something combining muslim and terrorist and your an insensitive racist and deserve to be beheaded, blown up, nuked, stoned, etc...

    But we're a PEACEFUL religion...

    Not saying all muslims are terrorists. Just it seems if it is so peaceful, why can't you control your own? If the muslim community as a whole became as outraged as everyone else is, the support for the terrorists in manpower and money would dry up and everyone would go home in peace. Think about it.
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited April 2006
    ohskigod wrote:


    It is amazing how this country works.
    We let people like this hold protests. In public.
    It seems to me that everyone in attendance was a terrorist and should have been treated as such.
    When I saw the videos of the sh!tbags in their sh!thole countries cheering about 9/11 all I wanted to see was napalm.
    I am so pissed after reading this.
    Why couldnt' we have a buss waiting at the end of their little march to take them to a boat for deportation. A cheap leaky boat with enough feul to get out to international water.


    As for the movie, I'll wait for the video.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2006
    "United 93" is the most intense motion picture I have seen. Ever.

    It's depiction of the events of 9/11 were straight forward to the point that you felt the fear and terror those aboard--and the confusion and chaos those on the ground--must have felt. You don't stand up and cheer at the end, rather you leave with more of an understanding of what we're up against. And the steely resolve it's going to take to deal with it.

    Every American, especially those that vacillate and waiver in the face of this threat, should see "United 93".