NEW SVS Plus Driver ' Plus 12.3'
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Top off, plug in, set switch to 20hz. Oh my! Daughter came running in, "turn the sound down!". Mission accomplished. Hmmm, I do have one more plug to go to 16hz...
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Sure am glad I stopped by.......you guys are up on the latest and greatest. A new driver for my cylinder?
I've recently been thinking about trading my sub for a nice tube preamp or something/anything else.Denon #2900, Denon stereo receiver, Conrad Johnson Sonographe 120 amp, Blue Jeans cables, and Klipsch RF-7's -
Pre-orders are being taken. http://www.svsound.com/news-news.cfm
Robmains: rt16
center: csi40
surrounds:fx 1000
sub: SVS 20-39pc+ -
Yep... NSD driver on the way...!Terps Swimming!
HT Setup
TV: Vizio VX32L
Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
Fronts: Polk R50s
Surounds: Polk R30s
Center: Polk R20's
Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi
2CH Setup
Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC
Headphones
Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3
Other Stuff in Use
Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060 -
Oh yea... probably gonna have my old ISD driver up for sale if anyone is interested.Terps Swimming!
HT Setup
TV: Vizio VX32L
Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
Fronts: Polk R50s
Surounds: Polk R30s
Center: Polk R20's
Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi
2CH Setup
Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC
Headphones
Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3
Other Stuff in Use
Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060 -
dipiazza wrote:Oh yea... probably gonna have my old ISD driver up for sale if anyone is interested.Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
I will probaly get rolled for this question but I have to ask? What exactly will one gain from upgrading to the new plus drivers? I have money in hand and I'm ready to pull the order but I want to get as much info as I can before I pull the trigger. Would I be better off putting the money towards something else or would it be money well spent for the upgrade? To me and hopefully someone else will explain a little better but I just don't see that much of a gain going from dual 12" subs to dual 12.3" subs. Could someone please elaborate a little more on this subject. Thanks.Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
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From testing and messages with SVS, basically you gain about half (or more) of the performance gap between the Ultra and the Plus. On the NSD, it is equivelent (if not better) to the old + driver.
I went ahead and did it so that I'd have 2 DIY 12'2 or $100/each after upgradeThere is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin -
am i not delving deep enough into this to reveal any comparison graphs/charts? i wouldn't mind getting THAT much closer to having an ULTRA.
POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
ONKYO TX-SR805
CENTER: CSI5
MAINS: RTI8'S
SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
XBOX 360WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd
http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.phpbobman1235 wrote:I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments. -
Grimster74 wrote:I will probaly get rolled for this question but I have to ask? What exactly will one gain from upgrading to the new plus drivers? I have money in hand and I'm ready to pull the order but I want to get as much info as I can before I pull the trigger. Would I be better off putting the money towards something else or would it be money well spent for the upgrade? To me and hopefully someone else will explain a little better but I just don't see that much of a gain going from dual 12" subs to dual 12.3" subs. Could someone please elaborate a little more on this subject. Thanks.
Grim,
Here is the only spot I have seen a decent review of the two speakers:
http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/791718/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/2
The reasoning to make this purchase is that SVS claims that the new speakers have a 1 to 2db increase, better musically, and also have a 3 year warranty on them. So basically, if nothing else, you are extending the warranty of your system by 3 years for $99 as well.
http://www.svsound.com/news-news.cfm
Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
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Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote -
Halo wrote:I think there will be plenty available in the CPFM when the upgrades start to ship - mine included!
Can't argue with that. I am not a DIY person so I will definitely not be needing the old plus speaker.Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
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Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote -
I will buy an old driver from somebody for 50 + Shipping.
May buy more than one - so let me know.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Placed my order for the updated drivers this morning. Now, with my woodworking abilities, looking to do a DIY sub for upstairs with the old drivers.Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
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My maggies could use a sub to play with so I'll be going the DIY route as well.There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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DIY route myself. Now to start looking for a plate amp. Might try to pickup a second and do stereo subs.
Robmains: rt16
center: csi40
surrounds:fx 1000
sub: SVS 20-39pc+ -
I, myself, am thinking about an end table design. Where would I find the specs. on this sub so I know what type of amp to use, box design, etc.?Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
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How would these "old" (4 months in my case) SVS ISD drivers fare in an infinite baffle design?Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
got my two new plus drivers on order, yo!!! $241.17 total shipped. not too shabby.:)
POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
ONKYO TX-SR805
CENTER: CSI5
MAINS: RTI8'S
SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
XBOX 360WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd
http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.phpbobman1235 wrote:I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments. -
Halo wrote:How would these "old" (4 months in my case) SVS ISD drivers fare in an infinite baffle design?
1 by itself won't do a whole lot. With IB, you need a lot of displacement since you do not gain volume/effiency from ports or a passive radiator. Figure volume (loudness) to be similar to a sealed sub of the same size. It would work, but it won't reult in the "OMG" upgrade most get going IB.There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin -
jdhdiggs wrote:1 by itself won't do a whole lot. With IB, you need a lot of displacement since you do not gain volume/effiency from ports or a passive radiator. Figure volume (loudness) to be similar to a sealed sub of the same size. It would work, but it won't reult in the "OMG" upgrade most get going IB.Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
Halo wrote:I was thinking that since quite a few would be for sale in the near future someone could get 2-4 ISD or Plus drivers and have a killer IB sub, no?
Gotcha, I was being a bit dumb. Thought you were implying that you'd use yours alone. 4 should acquit themselves quite nicely.There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin -
Anyone want to comment on any improvements they noticed when switching from a ISD to the NSD? I bought a 20-39 PCi at the very beginning of April, but I believe mine shipped with the 12" ISD woofer instead of the latest and greatest
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dunno about the isd or nsd, but the new plus subs aren't slated to be shipped until july sometime. reviews are to follow...
POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
ONKYO TX-SR805
CENTER: CSI5
MAINS: RTI8'S
SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
XBOX 360WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd
http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.phpbobman1235 wrote:I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments. -
Ordered my two 12.3 replacements as well. Better musical performance would be a big plus.
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I checked with Ron & Erik at SVS and Erik confirmed that my PCi was actually built with the NSD woofer. Mine was shipped about the first week of April 06 FYI.
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Should be easy to check, if its a PCi and the woffer is Black its ISD... if the woofer is gray its NSD.Terps Swimming!
HT Setup
TV: Vizio VX32L
Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
Fronts: Polk R50s
Surounds: Polk R30s
Center: Polk R20's
Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi
2CH Setup
Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC
Headphones
Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3
Other Stuff in Use
Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060 -
dipiazza wrote:Should be easy to check, if its a PCi and the woffer is Black its ISD... if the woofer is gray its NSD.
That is what I thought according to their website pics, but mine appears to have a black cone... -
dipiazza wrote:Should be easy to check, if its a PCi and the woffer is Black its ISD... if the woofer is gray its NSD.
Ok, here is the respone I received from Ron for verifying which driver you have.
"Matt,
The better way to know is to pop off the grill and shine a light down the port.
If you see a black steel basket then its an NSD. If its a silver cast aluminum basket its the ISD.
Ron
SVS" -
If you see a black steel basket then it’s an NSD. If it’s a silver cast aluminum basket it’s the ISD.
Huh, i guess well see what the others look like when they ship out...?Terps Swimming!
HT Setup
TV: Vizio VX32L
Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
Fronts: Polk R50s
Surounds: Polk R30s
Center: Polk R20's
Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi
2CH Setup
Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC
Headphones
Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3
Other Stuff in Use
Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060