NEW SVS Plus Driver ' Plus 12.3'

plattq45
plattq45 Posts: 50
edited June 2006 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
got it from some other forum, new Plus driver :D



the link
http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-test.cfm#driver
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  • gyusher
    gyusher Posts: 77
    edited April 2006
    WOW!!

    from a former +2 owner. . .Now I have the isd2 and love it too. . .

    I bought my isd2 the last of Feb/early March this year and wanted another +2 but they were back ordered. At the time I was told they were experiencing a few issues with the old driver. I do not know if those issues were availability, function or service. My understanding was (rightly or not) that there were warrenty issues from a bad run of drivers. However in typical SVS style it looks like they came through just fine. . .Now I got the hots for another +2 if for no other reason than to check it out. . .

    I have had their passive 2039, the Pb12+2, the isd10 and now the isd2. . . I was absolutly thrilled with every one of them. . . I am finding the isd2 to be just right for my room. . .
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  • plattq45
    plattq45 Posts: 50
    edited April 2006
    how did the plus/2 sound comparing to your isd/2 now? any major different?
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  • gyusher
    gyusher Posts: 77
    edited April 2006
    plattq45 wrote:
    how did the plus/2 sound comparing to your isd/2 now? any major different?

    The +2 has more energy, punchier (in a good way) very clean and detailed for a subwoofer, no shortage of volume while the isd2 (mine anyway) is my soft spoken friend who is always there when I need him. The isd2 just does what it's supposed to do without fanfare. Sometimes I find myself wondering if she's there until a good bass note comes along and that thought leaves quickly.

    The isd2 just sounds different, not bad, actually in some ways I like it more. I hate what I am fixing to say but it is more musical to me that the +2. . . I also had the 2039 with the same driver only a single, also a good sub but in my mind the isd2 sounds different than the 2039 too. . . better. . .

    If I could have any sub that SVS built it would be hard to choose between the +2 and the isd2, forget about the Ultra. . we all know it is the king. . .
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited April 2006
    Drifting a little bit off subject, SVS will be allowing plus owners a chance to upgrade their 12 inch speakers to the new 12.3 version for $99 soon. They are also going to allow you to retain your old driver to use as you wish. SVS's offer can be read here:

    http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/790416/page/0/fpart/2/vc/1
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
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  • gyusher
    gyusher Posts: 77
    edited April 2006
    They never cease to amaze me. . .
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  • malikarshad
    malikarshad Posts: 527
    edited April 2006
    Its an awesome news and I'm thrilled by it. I have PB2+ and i would be glad to upgrade it rather than buying an Ultra:cool:

    Speakers=>Salk Soundscape 8, Soundscape Center,Surrounds-Dali Rubicon LCR, Lsi7
    PreAmp, Amp => Marantz AV8801, ATI 6007 amp, Oppo HA-1 DAC
    Source => Sonore MicroRendu, Oppo BDP-103, Mede8er 600XD, Dune HD Smart D1, Synology DS1813+(16TB)
    Sub - JTR Captivator S2 (Dual 18")
    Power - Furman IT-Ref20i on dedicated 30Amp circuit with Furutech GTX-R outlet
    Screen=> JVC RS-45 projector Da-Lite HP 133" 2.35
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited April 2006
    Holydoc wrote:
    Drifting a little bit off subject, SVS will be allowing plus owners a chance to upgrade their 12 inch speakers to the new 12.3 version for $99 soon. They are also going to allow you to retain your old driver to use as you wish. SVS's offer can be read here:

    http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/790416/page/0/fpart/2/vc/1

    Suweet!!! Saving pennies now....
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • krabby5
    krabby5 Posts: 923
    edited April 2006
    I wonder if us non-plus owners could upgrade?

    I have the PCI 25-31 (tuned to 22)
    Pioneer Elite VSX-53, Polk RT800i fronts, Polk CS400i center, FX500i surround, Velodyne sub
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited April 2006
    krabby5 wrote:
    I wonder if us non-plus owners could upgrade?

    I have the PCI 25-31 (tuned to 22)


    So far, non-plus owners are not going to be considered in the special upgrade deal. I am sure that you will be able to buy the speaker for $300+, but so far the $99 deal is for plus owners only.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2006
    RS is hinting at a new ISD driver shortly and there have been numerous questions about the viability of using the 12.2 drivers in the ISD tubes and boxes...no replies yet.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • gyusher
    gyusher Posts: 77
    edited April 2006
    It's called the "NSD" driver. . . Check it out. . .
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited April 2006
    As quoted directly from Tom Vodhanel of SVS Research and Development division:
    Don't hold me to this...but I believe we will offer the NSD for $79 for a limited time. You could very likely sell the ISD driver for about the same amount to a DIYer(maybe even more?)...it(the isd) is a very good driver with about 15-16mm of clean excursion. Both the $99 plus12.3 upgrade and the $79NSD upgrade will be for a limited time(probably 30 days---starting in 4-6 weeks). We are definitely losing money on each one of these. So while we want to "take care of" past customers...we cannot support these prices indefinitely..:)

    Tom V.
    SVS
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    Someone please post in this thread or start a new one if you notice the time has come for our $99 sub upgrade. I will definately purchase the upgraded sub (and post any improvements I do/don't hear).

    I was bummed when I heard that an ultra driver would not fit in my sub....

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2006
    Im going to be all over that NSD driver...lol

    Next thing I will need to do is build an ISD DIY Subwoofer... ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • gyusher
    gyusher Posts: 77
    edited April 2006
    Viola
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2006
    Anyone that replaces their ISD driver with the new one and want to sell it...

    I call absolute dibs.

    I want to build a PB2 ISD
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • criverajr
    criverajr Posts: 1,675
    edited April 2006
    Hey Sid,

    I will keep you posted when I update my isd-10, I will only charge what I get the new one for. Get your DIY building on!

    CRj
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2006
    No word yet on the 10" ISD driver. They have only brought the 12" in house, to my knowledge. The 10" ISD is so good it's hard to improve :D .

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2006
    Nah I dont need/want the 10 - but I do want a 12...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    criverajr wrote:
    Hey Sid,

    I will keep you posted when I update my isd-10, I will only charge what I get the new one for. Get your DIY building on!

    CRj
    Sid the Kid wrote:
    Nah I dont need/want the 10 - but I do want a 12...

    Ditto (on the 12") Its yours if you want it Sid. :)

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2006
    Well, assuming the one selling it is upgrading their current sub to the new driver, I am semi expecting a "good" price on the ISD driver I do buy...

    So keep that in mind. ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited April 2006
    Yep, I just had to order myself the mighty midget 25-31 to finish off the HT. :D I'm in the hopeless state of waiting for the damn thing to arrive.
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  • G-force
    G-force Posts: 82
    edited April 2006
    wallstreet wrote:
    Yep, I just had to order myself the mighty midget 25-31 to finish off the HT. :D I'm in the hopeless state of waiting for the damn thing to arrive.

    Same boat. Though I ordered mine with the optional 22hz port for a little more extension. Very excited!:D
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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,573
    edited May 2006
    Does anyone know if/when SVS will start the Plus upgrade option to the 12.3 for $99. Haven't really followed this but I'm always looking to urgrade something.
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited May 2006
    Near the end of the month is the predicted time for the upgrade option.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
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  • dipiazza
    dipiazza Posts: 363
    edited May 2006
    This is pretty F-in sweet. Id love to upgrade my 20-39PCi driver with that new NSD... for $79??? you cant go wrong!
    Terps Swimming!
    HT Setup
    TV: Vizio VX32L
    Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
    HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
    Fronts: Polk R50s
    Surounds: Polk R30s
    Center: Polk R20's
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi

    2CH Setup
    Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
    CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
    Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
    Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC

    Headphones
    Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3

    Other Stuff in Use
    Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited May 2006
    The Plus sub used to be the sweet spot of the SVS line, being (subjectively)far better than the ISD and almost as good as the Ultra. Now with the improved NSD driver that may change. ISD/NSD = greatly improved, Plus 12.2/12.3 = moderately improved. The current Ultra is a moderate improvement over the 12.3. I guess we'll need to stay tuned regarding the new Ultra.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • RSTERN
    RSTERN Posts: 287
    edited May 2006
    Updrade linkhttp://www.svsound.com/news-news.cfm Should be able to pre order before monday
    mains: rt16
    center: csi40
    surrounds:fx 1000
    sub: SVS 20-39pc+
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  • dipiazza
    dipiazza Posts: 363
    edited May 2006
    Good lookin out...
    Terps Swimming!
    HT Setup
    TV: Vizio VX32L
    Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
    HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
    Fronts: Polk R50s
    Surounds: Polk R30s
    Center: Polk R20's
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi

    2CH Setup
    Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
    CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
    Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
    Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC

    Headphones
    Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3

    Other Stuff in Use
    Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited May 2006
    Don't know what the old driver sounded like, but the one kicks butt. I've got blended seamlessly with the ls90's at a notch over 1/4. I can't imagine what would happen at 1/2 turn. I'm off to drop in the port plug to tune to 20hz. If I'm only running 1/4 volume on the sub and blending nicely with the mains, I'm not worried about any DB drop from adding the port.
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