Wow expensive! Blu-ray

Willow
Willow Posts: 11,065
edited April 2006 in Electronics
Checking our local Future shop, they are selling a Samsung Blu-ray DVD player, for one low price of $1299.99. Yikes, It's gonna take a lot more coming down in price before I even think to consider a possibility of purchasing this type of product.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,012
    edited April 2006
    They'll be $79.95 in 18 to 24 months... maybe less if that format is the non-winner in the HD-DVD wars.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,065
    edited April 2006
    True, but still 1300$ for something that may not take off or even work well......hmmmm sounds like Beta all over again
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,012
    edited April 2006
    Such are the costs of the early adopter :-)
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2006
    They will never move at that price. $499 should be the ceiling. Especially for the mass market players.
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited April 2006
    they will be expensive for around 6 months or so. When the ps3 come out in november most will be reduced to around $500 or so. if you wait a year or two they will come down to around $200. I am talking about averages here. There will still be expensive high end ones over $1000 and you might find some cheap piece of cr*p for $79.95.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited April 2006
    Yup! Between how buggy it will probably be + 2 different technologies competing against one another, this is a lost cause!

    They should have made one universal player & been done with it! TThey never learn!:rolleyes:

    Willow wrote:
    True, but still 1300$ for something that may not take off or even work well......hmmmm sounds like Beta all over again
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2006
    VHS or Beta?
    SACD or DVD-Audio?
    Blu Ray or HD-DVD?
    chicken or fish?
    paper or plastic?
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited April 2006
    a blu-ray disc about a paper fish who fights crime with sharpened sacd's and watches vhs at night to relax?
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited April 2006
    It's expensive....so? It's new, it's better than whats currently available with regards to picture quality. Format wars or not, as soon as I can scrape together enough spare change (:rolleyes:) I'll be all over it like a fat chick on a donut.

    The price doesn'r seem unreasonable to me when you look at some of the other pieces of equipment we spend money on. Individual components are often far more expensive. Yes there are low budget options for just about everything high end, but sometimes saving up and buying a premium piece makes more sense. Let's face facts, a $49 DVD player is never going to look or sound as a good as a $1000 player, even if you do add Bling-Bling resistors or wiz-bang fuel-injected 10 speed windsshield wipers.

    Video performance is critical to some, relatively unimportant to others. Kinda like 2 channel vs. multi-channel....SS vs. Tubes....lamp cord vs. the favorite cable flavor of the month.

    It's all relative.... audition before you buy, buy what pleases you, buy only what you can afford, or in some cases justify.

    If it matters to you and you feel that you are getting value for the amount spent, well that's what it's all about.
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited April 2006
    I have no idea how people forget so quickly about history. How much was DVD when it first entered the market? I don't know about your neck of the woods but in mine you were paying $499 for a barebones Toshiba sold at Costco with no component video output. A Sony was easily $1199.99.

    And perhaps people forget but there was a major battle dwelling as both DVD and DviX lanched. Fox and other studios who held rights to BIG tittles said they'd opt for DivX first. That all but eliminated the chance to own Star Wars, Indiana Jones, The GodFather Trilogy and several other high profile collections for early adopters.

    I remember this because I really rolled the dice on that "cheap" Toshiba player while still attending College and not making any real money. It will be interesting to see who wins. My bet is on Blu Ray, and if you were at CES this January I think you'd agree.
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  • *Seby*-Polk-
    *Seby*-Polk- Posts: 375
    edited April 2006
    ohh ****.... if in USA the blu ray player cost U$S 1199, Here...no less than U$S 1.699 :(:(:(
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2006
    Is it really out already? I am checking Bestbuy.com, but can't seem to find it. futureshop is owned by BB, no?
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited April 2006
    No, Blu-ray is not out yet, your looking a several months at least, they've got some issues to sort out yet, problems with the players reading the software.

    Now, HD-DVd will be out in about 2 weeks or less, I cannot wait, gonna pick me up one.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2006
    That's what I thought too, Ron...I guess our northern friends get an early peek of the player.

    I'll definitely will check out HD-DVD when it goes out, hopefully BB will have an elaborate demo setup to showcase it.
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  • iworkfortweeter
    iworkfortweeter Posts: 53
    edited April 2006
    there are HD-DVD's and there are Blu-Ray dvd's. both players are different, and have completely different formats. they are NOT inter-compatible. they use seperate decoding technology.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2006
    I'll probably go Blu-ray instead of HD-DVD.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2006
    dibs on the unit somebody gets rid off when the next gen comes out. Now if someone comes out with a better sounding musical device, count me in.

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  • kingkip
    kingkip Posts: 401
    edited April 2006
    Not to mention that you can still buy a dvd player for more than $1200.
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  • Kris Siegel
    Kris Siegel Posts: 309
    edited April 2006
    iworkfortweeter wrote:
    there are HD-DVD's and there are Blu-Ray dvd's. both players are different, and have completely different formats. they are NOT inter-compatible. they use seperate decoding technology.
    Not necessarily. There have been several manufacturers that have stated they will develop players that can play both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. The disc is pretty much the same, it's just a different laser and a slightly different encoding scheme.

    Though I'm sure those will cost even more.
    dorokusai wrote:
    I'll probably go Blu-ray instead of HD-DVD.
    Why? Because Blu-Ray has a higher capacity? They will both give you the same quality video and audio.

    Both formats have their ups and downs, but if Sony's recent failure with the UMD is any indication as to how Blu-Ray will do, and with the production of Blu-Ray players getting pushed back because they can't finalize a DRM scheme, I have my doubts about the format.

    Btw, HD-DVD Players are already out and I believe some movie studios are shipping HD-DVDs as well.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2006
    I could care less which one "wins" at this point. We currently have at least 5 DVD players with progressive scan and over 500 DVDs. My PQ is already better than any theater and is just fine as far as I'm concerned. I will be extremely slow to "adapt" to a new format. When I do, I don't care which one it is as long as it is backward compatable.
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  • Nelson57
    Nelson57 Posts: 190
    edited April 2006
    I do agree that like with most new technologies prices will come down overtime, not only for the players but the movies as well. The fact that the initial wave of HD/Blue Ray players are not able to play SACD's, at least thats what I've read, is a deal breaker for me.

    At least with current DVD players at the HD player price point they are more than likely universal players, and offer more functionality.

    And, I am still quite satisfied with the PQ I get from component video. I'm sure I'll upgrade at some point, but all the right pieces have to be in place.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited April 2006
    Btw, HD-DVD Players are already out and I believe some movie studios are shipping HD-DVDs as well.
    Yep, I've got Phantom of the Opera, Serenity and The Last Samurai. Tomorrow, Doom and Apollo 13.

    I'll buy a blu-ray machine but not until the prices drop below $500. I will not spend $1k on a dvd player.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited April 2006
    Blu Ray vs. HD-DVD = Microsoft vs. Macintosh - 1st one on the market wins?
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited April 2006
    I'm starting to think HD-DVD is going to win this. Unlike Divx vs DVD there's no real difference in performance to the end user. Blue Ray requires a complete retooling of production, so their costs are going to stay up for a little longer than HD-DVD. HD-DVD also is hitting the market earlier and the XBOX is getting a HD-DVD add-on soon, while the PS3 is a christmas release, best case. The studio support might be a little stronger for Blu-Ray, but the only hold out will be Sony if things start to look bad for BR.

    Remember- Beta was the superior format, but still lost the war.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited April 2006
    Any studio can switch support at any time, if either format starts to die off studios will jump over to the winning format.
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited April 2006
    Blue ray will win, or they will both survive and blue ray will dominate.

    This is simple because every single ps3 game will come on a blu ray disk. Zero xbox games will come on a hd-dvd disk.

    Fox studios will most likely never release to hd-dvd so you will have to get a blu-ray to watch a lot of the best selling movies like titanic or star wars. All the other studios plan on releasing to blu-ray or soon will. To me this is really a no brainer.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2006
    Kris Siegel wrote:
    Not necessarily. There have been several manufacturers that have stated they will develop players that can play both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. The disc is pretty much the same, it's just a different laser and a slightly different encoding scheme.

    Though I'm sure those will cost even more.

    Why? Because Blu-Ray has a higher capacity? They will both give you the same quality video and audio.

    Both formats have their ups and downs, but if Sony's recent failure with the UMD is any indication as to how Blu-Ray will do, and with the production of Blu-Ray players getting pushed back because they can't finalize a DRM scheme, I have my doubts about the format.

    Btw, HD-DVD Players are already out and I believe some movie studios are shipping HD-DVDs as well.

    Why? Because I can....it's my decision.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited April 2006
    sickicw wrote:
    This is simple because every single ps3 game will come on a blu ray disk. Zero xbox games will come on a hd-dvd disk.

    You assume that PS3 will succeed- which is getting uglier by the day. The latest reports are that the components won't go in the case without catching on fire, the november release looks shakey and if they miss Christmas 2006, all the xbox 360 holdouts will get that instead of a PS3. Oh and when it does come out the base PS3 will cost $900. So- they have an uphill battle on both BR vs HD-dvd and PS3 vs Xbox360. If they miss christmas, they're completely screwed.

    I do agree that the PS3 component of this format war tilts things to Sony's advantage, but HD-DVD has all the momentum right now and the studios will follow the sales. On the other hand, making the November release will jump start Blu-ray and buy them time before their exclusive studios consider releasing on HD.
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited April 2006
    - If ps3 does not succeed than sony is screwed. There is, however, no evidence to support this and if you think there is, please post the source.

    - The ps3 will not cost the consumer $900

    - The studios are not stupid. They understand the market and that blu-ray will take a little longer to get started. This temporary momentum will not last too long. The age of 1080p movies are just about to get started, and blu-ray will be in the lead.
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    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2006
    *haaa-choo*

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