The time is rapidly approaching........Sub options please....

1996blackmax

MacLeod wrote:

Well it depends. If you take a single 8 with 150 watts, yeah that aint gonna be enough. But a single 12 with 500 watts will be plenty for SQ. Bass isnt supposed to be any louder than the midrange and you dont need as much as you think.

My good friend has an 8" Soundsplinter RL-i8 and that thing can get pretty loud in his car. It's funny to see the look on peoples faces when he shows him his sub. He is throwing about 350 watts to it from an Alpine amp.

I agree with Mac on the bass thing. My 4ch. amp pushes around 100 watts RMS per channel at 4 ohms. My sub amp is putting out 400 watts RMS. I think my system blends in pretty well. The little 10" monster of a sub that I have can keep up with my system pretty good. I had it pretty loud today playing around with the system, and weak bass output is not something my system has.

On a side note, I am pretty darn happy with my new 4ch. amp, more power sure helps my Rainbows shine . This thing has some defenite oooomph.

brettw22

OK.....so I'm going to get 2 SR12 DVC's and a pair of 500.1's.

Now as far as wiring goes, what all am I going to be needing to add to the mix?

I believe I need the following:
- Distrobution block
- Sub cable from deck(what type of cable since I'm runningfrom the deck to 2 amps/subs?) Also, I want to match to the Streetwires ZN3 that I currently have as my interconnects to my 400.4
- Power cable (from where to where though?)

Am I missing anything else?

98thumpin

one question i know we are fashion matching here, why spen the money on the srs when the db212-2 sub is awesome and very comforting to the wallet

brettw22

If you've actually seen/felt the SR sub, then you wouldn't be questioning it........

deepinya

The lug nuts are gonna fall off your car.

PoweredByDodge

if someone actually made a subwoofer that had the potential to cause sonic vibrations intense enough to shake loose nuts torqued down to 105 foot pounds, then I would probably let them rape me in the pooper.


and no i'm not ****...

neomagus00

PoweredByDodge wrote:

if someone actually made a subwoofer that had the potential to cause sonic vibrations intense enough to shake loose nuts torqued down to 105 foot pounds, then I would probably let them rape me in the pooper.


and no i'm not ****...

clearly, you are... and you torque your lugs to more than 2.5x what i do, that's pretty intense...

brett - if your current power cable is smaller than 4 gauge, you'll want to replace that (you may want to go up to 2-gauge anyways).

as far as interconnects go, you have two options - you can run one cable and stick a y-splitter on the end, OR you can run one cable directly into one 500.1, and a short cable from the preouts there to the second 500.1.

brettw22

My power cable is a 4 gauge..........where do I put the distrobution block? in the trunk with my existing amp? under the hood? what size wire do I need to get off of the block to the new amps?

neomagus00

i'd find a d-block with 4 4-gauge holes in it. then you run a 4-gauge from the hood to the trunk, mount the dblock there, and run a 4-gauge from the dblock to each amp.

MacLeod

If youre going to be running dual 500.1's Id seriously consider upgrading to 1/0 guage power wire from the battery and then 4 guage from the dist block to the amps.

brettw22

If I don't have to upgrade the wire to 1/0 I don't want to because then I'm going to have to buy a replacement ANL fuse holder as well. I know I'm going to have to up my fuse level I have (currently 60) to accomodate the additional amps.

MacLeod

You should really consider upgrading your power wire. Youre moving up from 400 watts RMS to 1600 watts RMS and thats definitely in the 1/0 guage range. 4 guage wire is going to be the MINUMUM at best.

1996blackmax

I never understand how people want to get nice gear and then skimp out on a crucial part of the system. Mac is on point about the wiring, if you are not willing to power the equipment properly, why get it in the first place?

exalted512

Instead of replacing all your 4 awg with 1/0, it would be easier and more economical to run another strand of 4 awg right next to your current one.
-Cody

neomagus00

in which case, of course, you'd need a 5-hole d-block... but i like the dual-4 idea, that'd give you, what, about 2-gauge equivalent?

MacLeod

Brett isnt trying to skimp out, I mean, he's already spent $1500 on speakers alone!! He's a home audio guru and they dont have to worry about power wires the size of a fire hose.

As for running a second run of 4 AWG, while that would work, I would rather keep things nice neat and simple and go with a single strand of 1/0. You can always go to Knukonceptz.com for your wire. You could get 20' for $37. That aint too bad. You wouldnt need to get ground wire, you could keep your 4 AWG for that.

1996blackmax

I know people who have spent good coin on their gear, only to skimp on the wiring. This means that their gear wont perform to the level that it was intended to, and that the person paid for. Spending a good amount of coin for gear does not equate doing the right thing all the way through. To me it had seemed that this was where he was going towards. I thought you guys gave good advice and maybe it was not being taken in as being correct. Good luck with the system and upgrade that wire, or run another 4ga .

By the way Mac just because someone is a "Polk something" it does not mean that they don't need to learn a thing here and there. Now back to getting ready to go out .

exalted512

MacLeod wrote:

As for running a second run of 4 AWG, while that would work, I would rather keep things nice neat and simple and go with a single strand of 1/0.

says the guy with his power wire taped together?;)
-Cody

1996blackmax

Exactly what I was thinking......

brettw22

Simmer down drama queens ........I'm just asking questions.......not trying to shortcut. That's why I (semi-willingly) paid someone else to do the job so it was done right.

I am looking at the wiring stuff now and will be ordering the supplies this weekend.

With the biggest wire, is it better for me to have the AFS or ANL fuses? Does it matter?

How do I wire the power wire with the multiple amps? Is it the 1.0 wire from the battery back to the trunk into a distro block, then 4 gauge to each of the amps?

audiobliss

Your distro block is in the trunk? I just assumed that'd be under the hood close to your battery.

brettw22

The distro block is to split the power cable to all the different amps. Why would I put it under the hood and then have to run 3 different long power cables to the 3 amps in the trunk?

Also, I just looked what type of hole my 4gauge wire is running through and it's tight. How the hell am I supposed to be getting a 1awg wire through there or am I supposed to be running this underneath the car?

1996blackmax

Never under the car. Make a bigger hole, use a grommet, and run that larger gauge to your trunk.

I also recommend Knukoncept wiring.

exalted512

you def. want the distribution block in the trunk. Or under the back seat. I still say go withe dual 4awg. Easier, cheaper, just as good...why not?
-Cody

MacLeod

You can always drill out the hole to make room for the 1/0 guage.

You would run the 1/0 guage from the battery to the distrobution block and then run 3 runs of 4 guage from the dist block to the amps.

exalted512 wrote:

says the guy with his power wire taped together?

1996blackmax wrote:

Exactly what I was thinking

For you, I give you The Double Deuce!

1996blackmax

MacLeod wrote:

For you, I give you The Double Deuce!

Man............

brettw22

What about the AFS vs. ANL fuses when going with wire as big as 1/0?

MacLeod

I prefer ANL.

exalted512

MacLeod wrote:

I prefer ANAL.

thats a little too much info there...
-Cody

MacLeod

exalted512 wrote:

thats a little too much info there...
-Cody

That doesnt suprise me. Most Aggies cant spell.