The Most Incredible Sound Rig You Ever.....
George Grand
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or, "How The Boys from Vermont Got Burned for Carver Amazings In South Amboy, New Jersey"
Before you finish reading this, you will have heard about the most ambitious sound rig undertaking ever in the history of Polk Audio Forum, and maybe all mankind (including the Aztec AND Mayan audio pioneers).
I contracted to buy something from a guy in Vermont. No deal if I can't see it working in my house. No shipping. Hand deliveries only. No side of the road deals. It's a pricey item, and I don't know the guy from squat OR here.
"Not a problem, we're coming down to South Amboy to pick up a couple MORE sets of Carver Amazing Platinum Mk. IV's. Saturday night anyway. We'll swing by Superbowl Sunday morning"
I'm sure most of you saw the key word in the above paragraph. MORE.
This individual seems far too determined for me to want to try and deter him. OF COURSE he should "swing by" the 70 miles further south into the wilds of Jersey before he goes home on Superbowl Sunday, and hand deliver the mint item. He shows up as advertised on Sunday morning, 11ish. Terry and Don. Two of the nicest guys you'd want to meet. After exchanging pleasantries on my front lawn (I could see the lawn envy in their eyes), they told me how the guy in South Amboy answered the front door in his boxer shorts, and the house was a shithole. In and out. The Amazings had been misrepresented in the ad and were literally beat to ****. One deep gouge in the black lacquer that the guy magic markered, and it appreared someone tried to carry them using the handles on the crossover cover. Ripped the whole assembly right out and it was just hanging there. Those were just the MAJOR issues. They elected not to take them. I'm surprised they didn't turn around and go home right then and there.
Now we're inside at the kitchen table still doing the pleasantries thing when one looks at the other, the other looks at me and says...
"Just what's it going to take to get you to part with one pair of your Amazings?"
I felt really bad for these guys now. These men obviously thought they could "salvage" the trip to Jersey, obviously operating under the mistaken impression that I had TWO pair of Amazings. I think the look on my face explained it to them, but I did it orally anyway, and told them I only HAD one pair of them. Perfect stereo jaw drops as they turn to look at each other. Not my fault, I got a clean conscience you know? When they regained composure, you have to know the next question they asked, and that the look on my face was all they needed for that one. No orals this time baby, you are going home with zero Jersey Amazings.
Terry is a master electro-acoustician. The room is like 35' x 34', 10 foot ceilings. The plan is Pioneer Elite 7.1 with 7 pair of Carver Amazing Platinum Mk. IV's in that room. Seven pair. Couple of M & K 5,000 watt subwoofers or something like that too. Maybe not that much, but a lot.
One pair of Amazings flanks the monitor, and they are the center channel speaker. Then, in every other position, is a PAIR of Amazings. A LF pair, and a RF pair. A Lside pair and a Rside pair. A Lsurround pair, and a Rsurround pair. Each pair to be driven by a pair of Silver 7T's. Although they said they think each pair sounds better only being driven by one 7T. He already has 10 of the amps. You heard it here first. No question in my mind they were going to do this. Matter of time and speaker availability.
These boys were mad as hatters, but I was sitting across the table from greatness.
Gave them a handsome lunch, and sent them back to Vermont.
Before you finish reading this, you will have heard about the most ambitious sound rig undertaking ever in the history of Polk Audio Forum, and maybe all mankind (including the Aztec AND Mayan audio pioneers).
I contracted to buy something from a guy in Vermont. No deal if I can't see it working in my house. No shipping. Hand deliveries only. No side of the road deals. It's a pricey item, and I don't know the guy from squat OR here.
"Not a problem, we're coming down to South Amboy to pick up a couple MORE sets of Carver Amazing Platinum Mk. IV's. Saturday night anyway. We'll swing by Superbowl Sunday morning"
I'm sure most of you saw the key word in the above paragraph. MORE.
This individual seems far too determined for me to want to try and deter him. OF COURSE he should "swing by" the 70 miles further south into the wilds of Jersey before he goes home on Superbowl Sunday, and hand deliver the mint item. He shows up as advertised on Sunday morning, 11ish. Terry and Don. Two of the nicest guys you'd want to meet. After exchanging pleasantries on my front lawn (I could see the lawn envy in their eyes), they told me how the guy in South Amboy answered the front door in his boxer shorts, and the house was a shithole. In and out. The Amazings had been misrepresented in the ad and were literally beat to ****. One deep gouge in the black lacquer that the guy magic markered, and it appreared someone tried to carry them using the handles on the crossover cover. Ripped the whole assembly right out and it was just hanging there. Those were just the MAJOR issues. They elected not to take them. I'm surprised they didn't turn around and go home right then and there.
Now we're inside at the kitchen table still doing the pleasantries thing when one looks at the other, the other looks at me and says...
"Just what's it going to take to get you to part with one pair of your Amazings?"
I felt really bad for these guys now. These men obviously thought they could "salvage" the trip to Jersey, obviously operating under the mistaken impression that I had TWO pair of Amazings. I think the look on my face explained it to them, but I did it orally anyway, and told them I only HAD one pair of them. Perfect stereo jaw drops as they turn to look at each other. Not my fault, I got a clean conscience you know? When they regained composure, you have to know the next question they asked, and that the look on my face was all they needed for that one. No orals this time baby, you are going home with zero Jersey Amazings.
Terry is a master electro-acoustician. The room is like 35' x 34', 10 foot ceilings. The plan is Pioneer Elite 7.1 with 7 pair of Carver Amazing Platinum Mk. IV's in that room. Seven pair. Couple of M & K 5,000 watt subwoofers or something like that too. Maybe not that much, but a lot.
One pair of Amazings flanks the monitor, and they are the center channel speaker. Then, in every other position, is a PAIR of Amazings. A LF pair, and a RF pair. A Lside pair and a Rside pair. A Lsurround pair, and a Rsurround pair. Each pair to be driven by a pair of Silver 7T's. Although they said they think each pair sounds better only being driven by one 7T. He already has 10 of the amps. You heard it here first. No question in my mind they were going to do this. Matter of time and speaker availability.
These boys were mad as hatters, but I was sitting across the table from greatness.
Gave them a handsome lunch, and sent them back to Vermont.
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You gotta admire their ambitions, but I think I could find better uses for Amazings than using them as pairs in an ambiance role.HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable -
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A sight to behold, I'm sure - but agreed, a big waste of fine speakers.
Talk about a blast chamber, if that doesn't force you to move your bowels, nothing will. Insane.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
This goes against my nature to say, however sometimes more may not be better
I'm not sure I just said that! DKG999
HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED
Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC -
I'll call it a waste of fine speakers after I hear it. Significance is in the ear of the beholder. When you gonna learn? You get that jaded that fast? Please don't tell me some flea powered little amp and a pair of big horns has just got to sound better than this, without ever hearing it.
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George - sorry! I didn't mean to come off that serious!DKG999
HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED
Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC -
Wasn't talking to you.
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George, I love it "flea powered amp",,I gotta remember that one,,Outstanding
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Talk about a blast chamber, if that doesn't force you to move your bowels, nothing will. Insane.
Damn straight. And I LIKE it loud...
I have to agree, it is rather extravagant. -
amulford wrote:Damn straight. And I LIKE it loud...
What???
JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
And, General Patton(we all know his first name),,once said,"a waste of damn fine infantry"
JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
My good old friend, is losing his flair for the outlandish and outrageous. I strongly recommend some time with a couple gross of bottlerockets, and some time with four AR-3a or AR-5 loudspeakers, an AR Integrated or AR Receiver, cd player of your choice, turntable of your choice, and a Dynaco Quadaptor. Get a healthy helping of Ground Zero fun and great sound. Then go back to what you're doing.
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I would happily pay money to get my ears somewhere near that system. You can paint me suspicious, but nonetheless I would love to hear it.
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I hope Im not the only one that thinks this will sound horrible...
5 or 7, however many DIPOLAR speakers all in one room...
That is one out of phase signal for every in phase signal. I cant even begin to imagine the amount of pain on the nerves it is going to take to set those things all up effectively...
I will get flamed for that, but I dont care - my brain would go into overload trying to correct all the peaks and dips in that room.
Two dipolar speakers...sure...
But 5 or 7?...Ill pass. Sure itll look cool...- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
is it ok to post here now?
ambitious and I hope they complete their task. someone (GG) should keep in touch with them.. incase they achieve their goal.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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A Master electro-acoustician with the $$$ would do a custom built install to fit his room, not a retro-psuedo-Pioneer-Carver-surround rigged setup that you decribe.
I think someone is jerking our nads.............something smells like toasted almonds. HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable -
Oh Yeah...
M&k?
Should I tell them...or should you?- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Sometimes I like my nads jerked :rolleyes:DKG999
HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED
Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC -
George Grand wrote:I'll call it a waste of fine speakers after I hear it. Significance is in the ear of the beholder. When you gonna learn? You get that jaded that fast? Please don't tell me some flea powered little amp and a pair of big horns has just got to sound better than this, without ever hearing it.
Horns, not likely, ever. Flea amps, sure - I can hit 104+db at 15 feet with 12 watts, so what? Single ended class A too. Do I? No, I value the hobby, so I nurse my only two receptors, hoping to get as much mileage as possible out of them.
7 I could see, 7 PAIR, you gotta admit, even with the size of the room that's a lot of Amazings. FIFTY SIX twelve inch woofers in one room? Come on George. If Sid posted that, you'd be on him like stink on Troy.
That being said, I'd still like to sit right in the middle, and get my ears on it, at least once.
Cheers,
RussCheck your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
Thats because George dosnt like me... (and I like that fact BTW)...
The only thing Id put 7 of in one room that is large is what I own already and thats about it... atleast I know I wouldnt get cancelations out the rear-end.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
funny thing is, I bought those beat up amazings. yes, the house was a horror show (inside and out). yes, the panels were dinged, I see no big gouge though, he might have fixed it better by the time I saw them. yes, some jackass tried to pick it up by the little handles on the crossover. that was a fun look, but actualy, only a piece o fthe wood was broke, so it was floppy, but not hanging. simple glue repair, I just havent done it. they got new drivers now too. the panels may be a little dinged, but they sound just fine. of course, thats why it was only 900 clamsLiving Room 2 Channel -
Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites -
this story must have been a while ago, unless the guy was talking about a completly different set of amazings with a goofy crossover mountLiving Room 2 Channel -
Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites -
Maybe its 4-1-2006 in GGs world.HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable -
dkg999 wrote:Sometimes I like my nads jerked :rolleyes:
Well maybe not jerked, but fondled lovingly once in a while. -
Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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amulford wrote:Well maybe not jerked, but fondled lovingly once in a while.
a little cuppage will never hurt anybodyLiving Room 2 Channel -
Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites -
Saturday night special. Saturday just passed. 2006.
Sid, nothing nice to say? My daughter is still willing to go down there and slap you around a little. Mind your manners. -
Sid's got a pair of Amazings so now he's an expert......
So, Sir Sid.....if it's such BAD idea to have multiple di-poles in the room, why is the Magnepan HT setup so wildly popular??
George, if Stephie went within a city block of that lad, I'd slug you.
****, if I could get 7 pairs of Amazings in a room?? I'd do it, for NO other reason just to say I did.
BDTI plan for the future. - F1Nut -
Yeah, if you could lick your own privates you would too, so what.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
