SVS entry sub

krabby5
krabby5 Posts: 923
edited February 2006 in Speakers
I have been checking out reviews of the SVS PB-10 ISD and from everything I've read...it would be ludicrous to spend $450 and change on anything else...

Is it really that good? I've been using a Velodyne CH-8 for about 3 years and have been less than impressed now that my room is larger...

I kept thinking I was gonna have to spend $600-$1000 to upgrade...

I think I want!!
Pioneer Elite VSX-53, Polk RT800i fronts, Polk CS400i center, FX500i surround, Velodyne sub
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited February 2006
    Krabby, I've not heard one bad thing about SVS subs at their price. I have heard only one other SVS sub, and it was well worth the money. I am sure you would not regret it one bit. They aren't the most musical sub out there, but for HT they are excellent.

    How large is your room? If its really big, you might want to consider at least a 12" sub or a dual driver sub.
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  • adam2434
    adam2434 Posts: 995
    edited February 2006
    Yep, that SVS and the Hsu STF-2 would be very solid choices in the $400-450 range.
    5.1 and 2.0 ch Basement Media Room: Outlaw 975/Emotiva DC-1/Rotel RB-1582 MKII/Rotel RB-1552/Audiosource Amp 3/Polk LS90, CS400i, FX500i/Outlaw X-12, LFM-1/JVD DLA-HD250/Da-Lite 100" HCCV/Sony ES BDP/Sonos Connect. DC-1/RB-1582 MKII/Sonos Connect also feed Polk 7C in garage or Dayton IO655 on patio.
    2.1 ch Basement Gym: Denon AVR-2807/Klipsch Forte I or NHT SB2/JBL SUB 550P x 2/Chromecast Audio.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2006
    I have one, and I can tell you you won't get a better sub for the money....Of course, you can do better if you pay a bit more, for a bigger SVS :)

    I am in fact changing mine for one of the cylinders.
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  • krabby5
    krabby5 Posts: 923
    edited February 2006
    Shizelbs wrote:
    Krabby, I've not heard one bad thing about SVS subs at their price. I have heard only one other SVS sub, and it was well worth the money. I am sure you would not regret it one bit. They aren't the most musical sub out there, but for HT they are excellent.

    How large is your room? If its really big, you might want to consider at least a 12" sub or a dual driver sub.

    the room is about 20 x 10..but there is an 8 foot opening that goes into another room.. the ceilings are about 8 feet high as well..
    Pioneer Elite VSX-53, Polk RT800i fronts, Polk CS400i center, FX500i surround, Velodyne sub
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited February 2006
    get the biggest sub you think you will need. that way you wont worry about upgrading later.
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  • gregure
    gregure Posts: 871
    edited February 2006
    Honestly, that is not that big of a room, and if you're only looking to spend $450 and still get better than you have, you will have achieved your goal with the PB-10. I got a PB-10 just to tide me over for a year until I got the Depth from Martin Logan. For $450 it's easy to justify it not being the last sub you ever buy. I say go for it. However, if you listen to music a great deal, and have a real finicky ear, or really sit down to enjoy it from time to time, the PB 10 is a bit boomy, and you can certainly do better as far as musical subs. But for the money, you still can't beat the performance.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited February 2006
    Yeah, that room is certainly not too large. I really think you'd like SVS' offerings. Heck, if you don't, they have a decent return policy and they seem to have a relatively high resell value / high demand on the used market.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited February 2006
    You're in for a treat, the CHT-8 can't produce really low bass. After you get the PB10, have fun watching your movies all over again to enjoy what you were missing.
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  • tbPAF
    tbPAF Posts: 5
    edited February 2006
    Yep PB10-ISD is nice with very low extension. Mine also measured very flat in my family room with eqwizard. Flight of the phx 2004 dvd during the plane descent and rolls is a good example of low bass that this sub can produce. Rent it just for that scene alone, the rest of the dvd is mediocre compared to the original 1965 movie.
    Equipment: RTi6, CSi5, SVS PB10-ISD sub, speakercraft 6.5crs ceiling surrounds, Onkyo NR801 receiver
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  • EricBurg
    EricBurg Posts: 64
    edited February 2006
    I am currently running 1 svs pb10 with 2 polk RTi10's, CSi5 and 4 RTi6's and I love the sound from the sub. My room is 13'x25' with 8' ceilings. This sub really shines when watching movies. The low extension is amazing for a sub in this price range. While it may not be the most "musical" sub, it still does a really nice job. It took some room treatments and a little tweaking/positioning to really get the most out of the sub, but it was well worth it. Also, SVS has great customer support and a liberal trial period, so don't be afraid to email them with questions and check it out.

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  • G-force
    G-force Posts: 82
    edited February 2006
    My problem is my room has 20 ft vauled ceilings and my viewing area is in a cubby hole to the room. I really only have room for the PB10 ISD, and that's going to be a tight fit. I hope it's output is enough to fill my viewing area.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited February 2006
    G-force wrote:
    My problem is my room has 20 ft vauled ceilings and my viewing area is in a cubby hole to the room. I really only have room for the PB10 ISD, and that's going to be a tight fit. I hope it's output is enough to fill my viewing area.

    If one isn't enough, you can stack another one.
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  • krabby5
    krabby5 Posts: 923
    edited February 2006
    I ended up ordering the 25-31 PCi...the wife liked the cylinder better...fine with me!!

    I also noted on the order, in the comments section, that I would like it tuned to 22hz...

    Is that how you guys asked?
    Pioneer Elite VSX-53, Polk RT800i fronts, Polk CS400i center, FX500i surround, Velodyne sub
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited February 2006
    krabby5 wrote:
    I ended up ordering the 25-31 PCi...the wife liked the cylinder better...fine with me!!

    I also noted on the order, in the comments section, that I would like it tuned to 22hz...

    Is that how you guys asked?

    I'd call and verify with Erik at the sales number. You're probably fine, but it never hurts to verify.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • G-force
    G-force Posts: 82
    edited February 2006
    PolkThug wrote:
    If one isn't enough, you can stack another one.

    That's what I like to hear.

    If only my wife had that same thought process :D
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited February 2006
    G-force wrote:
    If only my wife had that same thought process :D

    Are we still talking about subs?

    Nice pickup Krabman. You'll like it a lot.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited February 2006
    krabby5 wrote:
    I ended up ordering the 25-31 PCi...the wife liked the cylinder better...fine with me!!
    Did you ask for a port plug? My wife liked the cylinder better also. Welcome to the club! ;)
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,779
    edited February 2006
    Why would you plug a ported subwoofer...that only has one port?

    The 22hz tune is great, nice low extention overall with room gain.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited February 2006
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Why would you plug a ported subwoofer...that only has one port?

    The 22hz tune is great, nice low extention overall with room gain.
    Deeper bass extension Trey. Sealed vs. Ported - sort of...
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,779
    edited February 2006
    I dont think so...

    If Im not mistaken, when you plug a port in a ported design, the f3 goes WAY up...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited February 2006
    Multi-port/variable tune subs need the plugs...

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited February 2006
    Ron S. at SVS sent me a port plug to experiment with on my new 20-39 PCi Trey & Ron. I don't think he'd do that if he thought it was a bad thing to do ;) FWIW I haven't felt the need to use it :)
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited February 2006
    Shouldve gone with the 20-39pci but the 22-31pci will do (this is your model # since you have the 22hz custom tune). I had the 22-31pci before and it served me well. However, if you had my hindsight, you wouldve gone with the 20-39pci.

    If it's not too late, change the order. If it is, the 22-31 will still satisfy.

    I know I sound a little harsh, but I guess I'm trying to get my opinion out before it's too late.

    Enjoy your new sub, regardless of which it is. :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,779
    edited February 2006
    Plugging the port wont hurt it....

    But it will significantly raise the F3 --
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited February 2006
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Plugging the port wont hurt it....

    But it will significantly raise the F3 --
    ok Trey - what's F3?
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • bms
    bms Posts: 182
    edited February 2006
    I recently got a pb10 & I love it, but I did consider the 25-31, as well as the HSU VTF-2 MK 2. I'm curious to see if any of you know how the pb10 compares to both & what the differences are.
    bms
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    Onkyo TX-RZ920
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    Polk LSiM 705’s
    Polk LSiM 706
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    Polk RTi4's
    Dual SVS PB13-Ultra’s
    PC13-Ultra

    Bonus Room:
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    Polk RTi10's
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited February 2006
    I briefly heard the VTF2.2 and later the PB10. Very similar for music, clean and tight, don't add more than is on the source. For HT the PB10 easily impressed more. I have a friend who had both, liked them both, but sold the Hsu.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2006
    G-force wrote:
    My problem is my room has 20 ft vauled ceilings and my viewing area is in a cubby hole to the room. I really only have room for the PB10 ISD, and that's going to be a tight fit. I hope it's output is enough to fill my viewing area.


    get the cylider sub...it takes up less room

    my PC-Ultra would rock that room...as it does mine... :D

    I also bought gregure`s PB-10...I really like it, but it`s not, as everybody has already stated, not the most musical sub out there...but it doesn`t suck either...!
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited February 2006
    beardog03 wrote:
    get the cylider sub...it takes up less room

    my PC-Ultra would rock that room...as it does mine... :D

    I also bought gregure`s PB-10...I really like it, but it`s not, as everybody has already stated, not the most musical sub out there...but it doesn`t suck either...!

    Waves hand in front of beardog... "You want to sell me your PB-10... You have no nead for all those subs... YOU WILL sell me your PB-10..."
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    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited February 2006
    MrNightly wrote:
    Waves hand in front of beardog... "You want to sell me your PB-10... You have no nead for all those subs... YOU WILL sell me your PB-10..."

    "Beardog, You WILL respond to this message and donate your equipment to me..."

    Hmmm, maybe I should have eaten more fiber or something. Doesn't seem to be working... or else the force is strong with this one.
    Honoured to be, an original SOPA founding member
    Stuff...

    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

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