aftermarket powercords

heiney9

Early B. wrote:

Does anyone know if there could be reasons for the perceived differences among power cords due to geographic considerations? Urban vs. rural vs. suburban? In other words, I would imagine that some areas or even some homes in the same area have "cleaner" power than others, thus minimizing the value of power cords and power conditioners. Just wondering if there are other factors at play here than simply our individual ability for audible perception.

Oh I believe that.....absolutely. I live near a radio station and the transmitting tower soemtimes gives me all kinds of RF interference. I may have just hit on the perfect excuse to upgrade cables . No, really I'm going to evaulate my system over the next week to see how much dirty AC and RF interference I have and then make a determination. I'll take notes so when I get the cables from the cable swap program maybe there'll be a difference right there.

H9

PolkThug

What is the point in upgrading the power cord if you're not using Z-Sleeves!!??? Carry on with your weak-**** equipment.


http://www.zcable.com/product.asp?pf_id=ZSleeveUltra

jdhdiggs

Early, once again you missed the point. If stereophile and secrets said that the chord made a startling difference in sound and people with $100,000+ tied up in their 2-channel equipment say that this one cable is by far the best, then comparing it alone against a grap bag of generic cables is valid for testing for any difference. Now if they added 10 cables to the mix and the same results, you would claim that they were comparing too many cables...

It is fun to watch both sides argue about this. The pro cable side blatently ignoring hundreds of years of psycholgy and decades of physics and materials research in addition to the only valid test being the least valid (scientificalyl) as possible. Then you have anti cable side arguing on completely mis-interpreted engieering info. Bahh..

My thoughts: Cables can, and do, make a difference. That said, a prperly designed and built cable will sound identicle to another properly designed and built (Properly shielded/grounded, wire of sufficient gage with minimal capacitance and inductance) However, not all cables are properly constructed, hence the difference.

Skynut

Z-sleeves..... I have a Z-rack.

Yea that's it.... a Z-rack.
My whole rack isolates EMI/RFI signals....yea that's what it does and right now as we speak I am having the Z-roof and insulation put on my house.

Yea that's what is happening right now.... a Z-roof. No noisey interference here.
When I am done I will be surrounded with Z-everything.
My system is sooooo pimp it is almost painful.

madmax

PolkThug wrote:

What is the point in upgrading the power cord if you're not using Z-Sleeves!!??? [/url]

I just don't have Z-money...
madmax

PolkThug

I used Z-insulation througout my house. My soundstage is very wide and deep now. I pity those with regular pink cottoncandy fibercrap insulation, they have no idea what good bass is.

mhardy6647

Yea that's it.... a Z-rack.
My whole rack isolates EMI/RFI signals....yea that's what it does and right now as we speak I am having the Z-roof and insulation put on my house.

Actually, that's quite straightforward to do: build a Farady shield (cage). This can quite literally be a cage. I am sitting in one in my office, effectively (as anyone who tries to use a radio inside this steel-framed building can attest)! Tesla used one to shield himself from the more adventitious aspects of his high power, high-frequency transmitted power experiments :-)

Skynut

That sound you hear is them putting up Z-fence now to protect the sound in my yard.

Oh that's right you can not hear it....but it is happening....right now...as we speak....or type.

heiney9

Skynut wrote:

Z-sleeves..... I have a Z-rack.

Yea that's it.... a Z-rack.
My whole rack isolates EMI/RFI signals....yea that's what it does and right now as we speak I am having the Z-roof and insulation put on my house.

Yea that's what is happening right now.... a Z-roof. No noisey interference here.
When I am done I will be surrounded with Z-everything.
My system is sooooo pimp it is almost painful.

I Z, I Z, so Zat iZ what ZhiZ iZ all about. Zank youZ Zery much for the inZformationZ,,,,, ZkynutZ

ZH9

heiney9

PolkThug wrote:

I used Z-insulation througout my house. My soundstage is very wide and deep now. I pity those with regular pink cottoncandy fibercrap insulation, they have no idea what good bass is.

PT don't you mean ZoundZtage :eek:

PolkThug

heiney9 wrote:

PT don't you mean ZoundZtage :eek:

For Shizzle!

Skynut

Zis iz not vat I vaz thinkinz it vould b

W WALDECKER

i would like to zank everyone for zere input!

dragon1952

W WALDECKER wrote:

i would like to zank everyone for zere input!

LOL! very funny guys.

Zo have you come to a dezizion zhen?

RuSsMaN

PolkThug wrote:

What is the point in upgrading the power cord if you're not using Z-Sleeves!!??? Carry on with your weak-**** equipment.


http://www.zcable.com/product.asp?pf_id=ZSleeveUltra

http://st12.flashecom.com/zcable/showpages.asp?pid=1007 30 day money back if not satisfied.

george daniel

Just sign Z papers,,old man,,,but I cannot sign Z papers(sobbing)

W WALDECKER

does anyone on this forum use any of the vh audio powercords? i am considering the flavor 1 cryroed for my cd player and the flavor 2 cryroed for my preamp and both monoblocks. all of these cords come with wattgate male and iec connectors. does this sound like a good choice? does anyone know of a better alternative?

shack

W WALDECKER wrote:

does anyone on this forum use any of the vh audio powercords?

Does anyone know of a better alternative?

Never used VH Audio. I use these and like them.

http://www.signalcable.com/

Plus you get a Club Polk discount.

dragon1952

W WALDECKER wrote:

does anyone on this forum use any of the vh audio powercords? i am considering the flavor 1 cryroed for my cd player and the flavor 2 cryroed for my preamp and both monoblocks. all of these cords come with wattgate male and iec connectors. does this sound like a good choice? does anyone know of a better alternative?

People on Audiogon seem to like them. I think most of them I've seen mentioned there use the Flavor 4 though which sounds like overkill for a CDP or pre. Nice return policy though. What length are you looking for?

W WALDECKER

i am looking for 1 digital service power cord and 2 powercords for my monoblock amplifiers and 1 for my preamp all 6ft. lengths

Skynut

george daniel wrote:

Just sign Z papers,,old man,,,but I cannot sign Z papers(sobbing)

And vy can you not sign z papers?

mantis

I respect Lou's opnion and everyone elses for that matter.

I use Kimber Power cords and I'm very pleased with the results.

As I have said many times in the past , it's only up to the person listening if wire makes a difference. Power cords speaker wire Ic's it doesn't matter, you decide.

Dan

John K.

Toby(PolkThug),your point about an exotic powercord being meaningless without a Z-Sleeve may be well-taken, but still more may be necessary for real benefits. A point often overlooked is the crucial significance of the color of the powercord, but fortunately salvation is at hand by way of the Spiratube and at the absurdly low price of only $26 per metre . There might now be some chance that a benefit would be realized from the powercord, but to enhance the possibility thought should be given to treating the room and especially the seat used for listening with CCU Ring Ties .

Skynut

John K. wrote:

Toby(PolkThug),your point about an exotic powercord being meaningless without a Z-Sleeve may be well-taken, but still more may be necessary for real benefits. A point often overlooked is the crucial significance of the color of the powercord, but fortunately salvation is at hand by way of the Spiratube and at the absurdly low price of only $26 per metre . There might now be some chance that a benefit would be realized from the powercord, but to enhance the possibility thought should be given to treating the room and especially the seat used for listening with CCU Ring Ties .

Ri-effin-diculous

F1nut

Skynut,

BINGO!!!

Much like the **** that won't flush, he is mildly annoying, but nothing a second flush won't cure.

W WALDECKER

i just talked to frank d at signal cable and i ordered three magic power reference powercords and one magic power digital reference powercord. i read the reviews and customer feedback on these cables and i like the fact that i spoke directly to the owner of the company. they seemed like the most bang for the buck so i just pulled the trigger on them.the fact that i got a club polk discount did not hurt either.

Early B.

W WALDECKER wrote:

i just talked to frank d at signal cable and i ordered three magic power reference powercords and one magic power digital reference powercord. i read the reviews and customer feedback on these cables and i like the fact that i spoke directly to the owner of the company. they seemed like the most bang for the buck so i just pulled the trigger on them.the fact that i got a club polk discount did not hurt either.

Great. Once you get them hooked up, please report back on your impressions.

W WALDECKER

will do!

PolkThug

John K. wrote:

A point often overlooked is the crucial significance of the color of the powercord...

I recommend orange for tube gear and black or blue for solid state. I'm constantly suprised at the misuse of powercord color, but hey if they don't like synergy, who am I to judge?

"Hearing is believing."

dragon1952

W WALDECKER wrote:

i just talked to frank d at signal cable and i ordered three magic power reference powercords and one magic power digital reference powercord.

What, no MagicStrip!? Sheesh!