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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2005
    a magic powerstrip is also ordered and due for delivery by thursday or friday with the rest of the cables!
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2005
    W WALDECKER wrote:
    i just talked to frank d at signal cable and i ordered three magic power reference powercords and one magic power digital reference powercord. i read the reviews and customer feedback on these cables and i like the fact that i spoke directly to the owner of the company. they seemed like the most bang for the buck so i just pulled the trigger on them.the fact that i got a club polk discount did not hurt either.
    I don't think you will be disappointed.....
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    Frank Dai will be attending the upcoming Maryland Polkfest/ HQ Tour - 2005
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • pjdami
    pjdami Posts: 1,894
    edited August 2005
    W WALDECKER wrote:
    does anyone on this forum use any of the vh audio powercords? i am considering the flavor 1 cryroed for my cd player and the flavor 2 cryroed for my preamp and both monoblocks. all of these cords come with wattgate male and iec connectors. does this sound like a good choice? does anyone know of a better alternative?

    I built a DIY Venhaus Flavor II powercord last year when I was experimenting with power cords. A very hefty and nice sounding powercord.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4361

    Also built a Carol based cable, a Crump design, and the DH Labs. I use all of them in my systems where I thought they worked the best. The DH Labs is the mellowest sounding of all of them with the widest soundstage (in my gear); the Venhaus was a close second if not tied. I use the Carol based on tube amps and subwoofer amps. Crump design on sources with the drain wire not hooked up to the IEC (middle prong) and drained to the wall outlet.

    Check out the DH Labs on the cable swap. It only costs like $4 to ship to the next person including the cost of the box USPS.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    The Robert "Bob" Crump, or Audio Asylum design is the most replicated DIY power cable, bar none. Bob also runs his own shop, TG Audio Labs, in addition to his work at CTC Builders(John Curl/Carl Thompson/Bob Crump) and Parasound.

    www.tgaudio.com

    PJ actually made the DH Labs cable in our Cable Swap Program :D
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited August 2005
    Rock on.

    It's great to see Hi Fidelity is alive and well with some forum members.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2005
    i just recieved the signal cable magic power reference and magic power digital reference cables along with the magic power strip and i hooked them up and WOW! there is a immediate and dramatic difference in the sound of my system vs the stock powercords and according to frank dai at signal the sound will open up more and they will reach thier best after around 50 hours of burn in. i would like thank Early B and Shack for steering me in this direction and everyone else for thier input on this subject. and to anyone sitting on the fence wondering if they should get aftermarket powercords.if you have good high resolution gear it will improve the sound of your system! so what are you waiting for? get after it ! again thanks guys.........
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited August 2005
    Congrats! all of my gears' IEC have been replaced with either SCMP or DH Labs (the first one courtesy of Pjdami, and several home-made)
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited August 2005
    Ah, another soul converted.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2005
    Glad to hear you got great results, W. More importantly, you were receptive enough to at least try it and not simply accept our opinions. There is so much subjectivity in audio that virtually everything in it has to be experienced. If something doesn't work for you as well as expected, keep on moving.

    Speaking of moving on, what kind of interconnects and speaker cables do you have? (ha ha)

    It never stops...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2005
    hey Early,i have german made Groneberg ts premium and Groneberg quattro reference ic cables both types have WBT 101 locking connectors these ic,s are the best i have ever heard. especialy the ts premiums. they are not well known in america but are popular in europe. i also use Groneberg quattro reference speaker cables in a biwire configuration. so i dont think i need any help in that department. i am working on getting Doro some groneberg ic cables for the cable swap program. again thanks..............
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2005
    Ah....another cursed soul led to ruin and downfall at the hands of the believers of audio voodoo.

    Welcome.....
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2005
    i paid 388.50 for four 6 ft powercords and a powerstrip with four hubbel 20 amp outlets i saved 30.00 with the club discount and this is believe it or not one of the best bangs for the buck i have seen in my system and the photos of the signal cables on the website dont do them justice compared to how good they look in person.these cables did more for my system than the musical fidelity x-10 v3 tube buffer did.i paid 399.00 for it. unbelievable!
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    W WALDECKER wrote:
    in a few days my Anthem pre 1L tube preamp will arrive and i can dabble with it. i like tubes if they portray a accurate soundscape but i dont like a euphonic or mushy presentation. for the money i think i did pretty well. ill soon find out........ again thanks.

    I don't mean this negatively, but do you know if the volume pot mod was performed, if applicable? The early Anthem PRE1L and 2L had a quality control problem. If I recall, the replacement was an ALPS pot. I know you mentioned it being a "demo unit" so I would presume that it's not an issue. I think you picked up a very nice, often unappreciated tube pre-amp. They are often sold at shoplifter prices.

    The presentation is the beauty of tubes. You can always "tailor" or "trim" the sound with a roll of the hand.

    I also noticed the Groneberg comment, thanks, that's very nice of you. Thank you. I'm sure you're coming to Polkfest right?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2005
    Yeah, I'm familiar with those Gronebergs. They are used for internal wiring in the Odyssey amps and the IC's are highly recommended for use with the brand. Haven't tried the IC's personally, but don't tempt me.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2005
    dorokusai wrote:
    I don't mean this negatively, but do you know if the volume pot mod was performed, if applicable? The early Anthem PRE1L and 2L had a quality control problem. If I recall, the replacement was an ALPS pot. I know you mentioned it being a "demo unit" so I would presume that it's not an issue. I think you picked up a very nice, often unappreciated tube pre-amp.

    The presentation is the beauty of tubes. You can always "tailor" or "trim" the sound with a roll of the hand.

    I also noticed the Groneburg comment, thanks, that's very nice of you. Thank you.
    i hope a high profile audio dealer like upscale audio would not screw me over! it comes with a seven day warranty
    and if its f*#ed! up it will go back to sunny california and they will give me my money back including shipping. i know a guy on the audiocircles website that has a Anthem pre1L with his extreme monoblocks and is very pleased with it. but you can never tell unless you are willing to stick your neck out.nothing ventured nothing gained!..................... p.s sure i will come to the polkfest.
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    You picked it from Kevin, so I'm sure it's 100%. Enjoy.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2005
    yeah Doro, its from Kevin Deal the tube guru. is upscale audio where you got the Cary preamp? do you know where i can get a quad of 7308.s or some other 6922/ecc88/6dj8 nos tubes that are sweet in a canadian preamp. amperex bugle boys perhaps? any good dutch or german tubes that can play nicely with the german circuit boards in the mono extremes?
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2005
    Early B. wrote:
    Yeah, I'm familiar with those Gronebergs. They are used for internal wiring in the Odyssey amps and the IC's are highly recommended for use with the brand. Haven't tried the IC's personally, but don't tempt me.
    the groneberg quattro reference cables are wired into the odyssey amplifiers. the groneberg ts premium ic is thier flagship cable and sounds phenomenal! but they are not cheap i believe they retail for 350.00 a pair vs 150.00 for the quattro reference ic.s i am waiting for my third set of the ts premium ic.s to be made. to me the improvement is worth the investment. these cables are oh so sweet!
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2005
    Yes, I picked up the Cary from Kevin. He's a very interesting individual, but I like the no **** apporach to his business.

    I always liked Mullard's in my Anthem....your mileage may vary, but I think it's the best for that pre-amp. You can source some Bugle Boys, but I wouldn't fall over yourself for them. I would pick up some NOS JAN Sylvania(Cheap) and some Amperex Orange/White Globe and leave it at that for awhile.

    Just as a side note, buy the tubes from somewhere other than UA. Kevin is cool, but his tubes are overpriced. If you come to PF, I can lend you a couple quads to play with....but you have to sign over your first born child.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,489
    edited August 2005
    W WALDECKER wrote:
    i paid 388.50 for four 6 ft powercords and a powerstrip with four hubbel 20 amp outlets ...QUOTE]

    Are you using any kind of power conditioner/surge protector? Just curious because I currently have a Monster 5100 Signature power conditioner on my home theater system and it has a decent power cord on it, but nothing like the Signal Cable power cords, so I haven't upgraded any of the power cords that I run into the back of it.
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2005
    Emlyn, i run the tempest preamplifier and the vibrato cd player through a small monster power strip that has surge suppression and ac filtration. i run the extreme monoblocks into the signal magic power strip and directly into the wall as recommended by klaus at Odyssey audio but i am looking for a highend power conditioner to replace the little monster unit and i think i might buy a nice used Tice unit that i have seen at a audio dealer online.
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,489
    edited August 2005
    W WALDECKER wrote:
    i run the extreme monoblocks into the signal magic power strip and directly into the wall as recommended by klaus at Odyssey audio but i am looking for a highend power conditioner to replace the little monster unit and i think i might buy a nice used Tice unit that i have seen at a audio dealer online.

    On the SDA system, I also run my amp straight to the wall socket with a PS Audio Statement power cord. I've been thinking of ditching the Monster power conditioner and getting a conditioner from PS Audio for the rest of the gear that can have any power cord attached between it and the wall, then using Signal Cable products from the components to the conditioner.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited August 2005
    Guys, check out the PS Audio UPC-200, http://www.psaudio.com/products/upc200.asp

    I love mine, it's exactly what I was looking for.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,489
    edited August 2005
    F1nut wrote:
    Guys, check out the PS Audio UPC-200, http://www.psaudio.com/products/upc200.asp

    I love mine, it's exactly what I was looking for.

    I noticed they also have a "Humbuster" version at the same price. My system doesn't have any hum though.

    There may be a Monster power center in the flea market soon.
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