A New CDP - Finally!

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,641
edited August 2005 in 2 Channel Audio
Ok, I've owned two CDPs now...

First a Yamaha CDC 585, then a Denon DCM-280. The Denon has been really good to me so far and it sounds excellent!

But now...it is time to move on!

So that brings me to my next component purchase, that will finish me off for a while!

Will be here in 2 weeks or so I suspect.

Next... Power Cables...

Then??? :confused: (Nothings left!! :D )

http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=processors&product=25.1

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- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited July 2005
    Nice CDP! Make sure you check the cosmetics real good though :D
    I highly recommend the OPA627 opamp upgrade if you can swing it.
    As for a PC, for a very inexpensive option try the Zu Birth on Ebay. I just bought 2 of them. Only $55 each shipped (1m) with lifetime warranty, upgrade option and 60 day return policy. They ship fast. I ordered them a few days apart and got both within 2 days. They compare very favorably to the DH Labs Power Plus I'm demoing.
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2005
    Excellent choice!!! This thing is light years ahead of your Denon.

    Do what dragon said and get the opamp upgraded. Makes a big difference.

    Also consider a Signal Cable PC. I just bought one.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited July 2005
    I am buying three Magic Power Cables! w00t w00t

    As for the Op Amp upgrade, how much does it cost??

    Thanks folks - cant wait to get rid of the Denon. Anyone reading that wants a CDP on da cheap, I got a Denon DCM280 for 70 bucks + S
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2005
    Sid -- what kind of interconnects are ya using?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    As for the Op Amp upgrade, how much does it cost??

    About the cheapest I've seen them is $59.95 each and it takes 2 plug-in modules so around $120 plus shipping. I made some recently and sold them to several members with postive reviews. I charged $45 shipped per pair. It's very labor intensive though. It's like soldering freakin' spider legs to a tab of windowpane. :rolleyes: I'd listen to it until it's good and broken in and then go from there. I'm sure we'll be hearing the play by play :D Maybe we can talk later ;)

    Here's a recent thread.
    http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29202&highlight=opa627
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Early B.
    Sid -- what kind of interconnects are ya using?

    Signal Cable Analog II, XLR

    Speaker cables are SC CSR

    Eh, I have no experience with a soldering iron. I'd have to send it to my buddy Jcaut! ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2005
    No need to solder, Sid. Just plug-n-play.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited July 2005
    Ugh...

    I need to stop reading the forum. Yall cost me money... ;)

    Nah, I will probally do this upgrade eventually... Thanks for the tips and tricks!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2005
    Nice looking player. Is this set in stone or are you still checking out other players?

    Maurice
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited July 2005
    Stone...

    I am confident it will fit my needs, and it matches my B&K. Which sadly is a good thing, since B&K dosnt make CDPs - *CURSES*...

    If B&K did, I'd have a B&K...

    *sigh*
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2005
    Cool. For $299, it looks like a killer CDP. Let us know how it sounds. Whenever I'm ready to replace the NAD, I'm gonna get a tubed Jolida.

    Maurice
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited July 2005
    Awesome! Sadly, something like that is slightly out of my price range. After this purchase, I will have a whopping 3 bucks in my wallet! ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Gary Robertson
    Gary Robertson Posts: 201
    edited July 2005
    Well i love my meredian and it was extremely expensive with a 24 bit Dac....extreme detail..However how can i not envy something like yours that is just as oood at a fraction of the price.. yes, you made an excellent choice..(good move man.)
    System #2
    Yamaha cdc-755,(20 bit DAC )
    Yamaha KX W382 cassette deck,
    ADCOM GFA-545-II.ampfilier,,
    ADCOM GFP-450 Preamp ,,BBE audio Restoration System (ARS)--Monster--M850I Innerconects and Monster 14 gauge speaker cable and the Fabulous POLK RT-7's with a Velodyne 12/15 subwoofer system ....she rocks.........
    .............................
    System #1:
    Meridian 508-24 cd.(20 bit DAC)
    Adcom -Gfp 750 preamp,
    Bryston 14b-sst amplifier,
    Martin Logan Prodigy Electrostatc speakers.and Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II innerconnects (rca) with Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker cable.
    ............................. "Jazz is democracy in music".
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  • unbridled_id
    unbridled_id Posts: 179
    edited July 2005
    Your cdp is basically the music hall 25 in a slightly different outfit, correct ? You also paid much less too, which is fantastic. Are you considering upgrading the op-amps like the dragon suggested ? I have the same op-amps in my nad 541i but they are soldered in where are yours just pop out...
    The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited July 2005
    I'm considering it...

    I like mods... haha...

    But my goal is to get out of audio, not fuel it more.

    So, where I go from here aside from Power Cables is an unknown path. (Car Payment, Gas, Insurance anyone?)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited July 2005
    for 299.00 and the very reasonable cost to hot rod this cd player this is the best bargain out there that i know of as far as digital sources are concerned.you should take notes after the initial break in while the unit is stock.then get it hot rodded and explain the differences on this forum. thanks
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • unbridled_id
    unbridled_id Posts: 179
    edited July 2005
    "But my goal is to get out of audio". Shame on you, that is totally unreasonable ;)....
    The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.

    Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    So, where I go from here aside from Power Cables is an unknown path. (Car Payment, Gas, Insurance anyone?)

    TUBES!!!!! You'll save a butt load of cash. Tube rolling is CHEAP compared to gear swapping.

    Maurice
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by organ
    TUBES!!!!! You'll save a butt load of cash. Tube rolling is CHEAP compared to gear swapping.

    Remember, not all tube gear is hardcore. If you simply throw some tubes into a horrible input stage and/or transport, you will get less than stellar results.

    Tubes are just one part of the equation, not the answer.

    Damn, that sounded Jedi and ****...Dan where are you!? ;)
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2005
    Chill out, Mark. I'm only showing Sid the door, not forcing him to walk through it;). I liked that sig.

    Maurice
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2005
    I'm down man, just commenting, that's all. LOL BTW
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited July 2005
    Tubes are on my horizon. Just not now.

    I plan to get back into HT when I get a larger house, so it may be alot further down the road.

    But, Only time Id get a tube preamp, would be when I can one that is 17" wide (I'm picky, what can I say), has all the inputs and outputs I need, and a freakin remote. Whats so wrong with a remote? (That dosnt empty me of all my money)

    I'm sure with all those "requirements" people will say I'm not ready or dont deserve tubes. Well thats fine, I'm not losing sleep by not owning any. Form & Function are tied in my book and always will be.

    Although when I get a dedicated HT, getting a tube preamp with only 1 input would be an ok thing as I would only have a CDP! Where as now, I have a CDP, XBox, DVDP, VCR.... *ponders* - (Even though I run a large majority through my VCR)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited August 2005
    Well, with the help of Sean (thanks!) - the CDP is ordered and should be here end of this week or beginning of next week!

    I'm pumped, can't wait!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited August 2005
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Well, with the help of Sean (thanks!) - the CDP is ordered and should be here end of this week or beginning of next week!
    I'm pumped, can't wait!

    You needed help to order it? :confused: What'd he do....loan you the money :D
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited August 2005
    cool... let us know how it sounds cause this was one of the cdp's that was on my list when I was shopping for one.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited August 2005
    I'm definetely interested in seeing the improvements that come about from the new CDP. As I am pretty skeptic... hehe... I'm sure I will keep you folks posted with pics and a mini review :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited August 2005
    You're on your way. Time to start hitting up "santa" for an external DAC....
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • BrentMcGhee
    BrentMcGhee Posts: 548
    edited August 2005
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    But my goal is to get out of audio

    :eek: Whhhaaaaa!!!!! :eek: :confused::confused:
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited August 2005
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Anyone reading that wants a CDP on da cheap, I got a Denon DCM280 for 70 bucks + S

    Can you say more? Condition? Pictures? I am interested.....
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited August 2005
    You'll be second in line, JCaut PMd' me...

    But it is in good condition, but it is used and has a small pin **** on the left side, on the beveled edge, hardly noticeable. This is the only mark I know of.

    Has original packaging + added packaging + manual + remote, shipping will be about 20 bucks I guess.

    Brent,
    I have been in audio since I was 12, I have had 4 systems (main) and 2-3 seperate systems elsewhere. It gets tiring, I am just in this for now to do DIY and finish my current system. There won't be any component changes that arnt weak links... IE: I won't replace my preamp unless it becomes a weak link, and so on. Probally after I get done finishing my main system, I will get a new TV of sorts... who knows.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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