the i hate everything thread

Polkersince85

Which album was it that had the bigaz ZigZag paper in it?

hoosier21

Cheech and Chong maybe?

sda2mike

Originally posted by Polkersince85
Which album was it that had the bigaz ZigZag paper in it?

sounds like a live bob marley album....i thinks

Ron-P

Micah, grab a "real" beer, not the snot in the green bottle, a nice Goldtoe and take a day off.

Your the best bro! Hey, did you move the fireplace to the new digs?

Micah Cohen

HOLY SHITE!

You all hijacked MY thread! :eek: Get the hell outa MY thread!

MINE MINE MINE!

Dammit. STOP IT! Give me a minute now to respond to you all.

A herd of sheeple. Sheesh.

Roger Waters was Pink Floyd, DLR was VH, and yes, Ozzy was Sabbath. Sometimes, like Bon Scott, one personality is the band. Anything else is just a lame attempt by surviving members to keep the cash flowing in. And there's nothing wrong with that, but fans -- real fans -- need to be aware that the heart and soul of the band is gone when the personality leaves. Usually, it's pretty easy to hear.

And I can dress myself without wearing labels and advertisements on my clothing, so why can't you?

:rolleyes:

Getcher own damned thread!

MC

TroyD

Man, so much stuff, where to start??

I buy LL Bean (some Polo but only on clearance). Why? 1. Because I like it. 'Nuff said. 2. It's like Geranimals for adults ('member those?). Everything matches, little thought involved.

Can bands actually 'sell out'? Were it all about artistic merit and so forth, where would that leave society? Broke, that's where. It's not a question of 'if' it's for sale, the question is 'what price'. Everyone sells out to a certain extent, that's a fact, Jack.

Now, does what MC describes as selling out void the original artistic merit? Depends on what frame of reference you care to apply, methinks. The only one that's really 'important' is what the individual thinks of it. The rest is just fodder for discussion.

Pre/post Waters PF. Good stuff before / bad stuff before. Good stuff after / bad stuff after. In the end, does the Division Bell make DSOTM any less spectacular??

AC/DC...hmmmm. I like both versions so it's hard to comment other than to say that that it's almost two different bands. Each having it's share of good and bad stuff although, not much of anything after Fly on the Wall I really care for. Who Made Who, like the song but I would have picked some different stuff for a greatest hits album.

I think the point is that you don't have to be a rabid, hardcore person in every instance but if you don't have SOME deep held convictions then you are just adding to the surface noise that constitutes the majority of contemporary society.

BDT

ND13

Originally posted by Micah Cohen
Roger Waters was Pink Floyd, DLR was VH, and yes, Ozzy was Sabbath. Sometimes, like Bon Scott, one personality is the band. Anything else is just a lame attempt by surviving members to keep the cash flowing in. MC [/B]

Yes indeed, and Zepellin gave it up after Bonham died, who was irreplaceable, IMO.

AsSiMiLaTeD

Originally posted by Micah Cohen
And I can dress myself without wearing labels and advertisements on my clothing, so why can't you?

Do you drive a car? What kind is it? Is it debadged - I doubt it? So you're driving around a car that's got a 'gasp' label on it advertising the vehicle manufacturer?

That's no different than wearing clothes with a manufacturer name on them.

Ron-P

Ron sports a rustic Timberland Tee today, in a faded pea green, oversized. The perfect hot day attire.

jet2001

O.o...I'm falling under Micah's spell. I've just noticed that I'm not sporting any logo's on the outside of my clothes. My polo (shirt style, not brand) is from old navy, yet you couldn't tell it unless you collared me and looked at the tag. My khaki's don't have any logo's on them and my shoes are logoless, unless you look at the sole where you can see the Bostonian brand. My belt is nameless unless I take it off and you see the tag as well.

Does this mean I'm not selling out? or am I selling out not to be a sheeple? Has becoming a non-conformist become a trend?

RuSsMaN

Troy wears Tommy ankle socks, with the little ****, I mean flag logo on them.

I've seen it, it's true.

Ron-P

Boots: Caterpiller - you can see the logo on the outside of the boot.

Socks: Goldtoe (yep, it's true Micah).

Jeans: Levi's

Shirt: You've seen that

...and if you must know, FTL boxers.


I am Micah's worst clothing nightmare.

marker

Originally posted by RuSsMaN
Troy wears Tommy ankle socks, with the little ****, I mean flag logo on them.

I've seen it, it's true.

Made me think of an old song by Black Sabbath- "Fairies wear boots and ya gotta believe me. I saw it I saw it with my own 2 eyes!"

Or however the hell you spell ferry.

AsSiMiLaTeD

Has becoming a non-conformist become a trend?

BINGO

It seems like the trend these days is categorize everyone as sheep and assume oneself to be at a higher intellectual level because of their self-proclaimed open-mindedness.

I can walk in to a Barnes & Nobles anytime and hear some college students talking about how we're all sheep and just follow the big corporate machine and how people can't think and non-enlightened. I just wanna walk over and say "Guys, you're in a goddamn Barnes & Nobles drinking your goddamn coffee right under the big goddamn Starbucks sign looking out the window and your big goddamn H2, shut the hell up!!!" But I'm a big wus, so instead I just go find the self-enlightenment section and get my read on...

TroyD

Tommy socks?

If they are, A. in the drawer B. don't have holes too big C. appear to be clean (although I don't pay much attention past A and then Russ could have a point.

BDT

marker

Regarding the Waters/Gilmour Floyd debate, what about Syd Barrett.

aaharvel

Originally posted by Polkmaniac
BINGO

It seems like the trend these days is categorize everyone as sheep and assume oneself to be at a higher intellectual level because of their self-proclaimed open-mindedness.

what PolkM said- and it's true. I mentioned this earlier in the Nick Drake thread.

Ron-P

I just wanna walk over and say "Guys, you're in a goddamn Barnes & Nobles drinking your goddamn coffee right under the big goddamn Starbucks sign looking out the window and your big goddamn H2, shut the hell up!!!" But I'm a big wus, so instead I just go find the self-enlightenment section and get my read on...

Micah Cohen

I'm thinking of starting a "I hate everything about the 'I hate everything thread' thead." :mad:

Listen. Brands. You gotta, in my opinion, be smart, make conscious choices not to be a sheeple, not to advertise somebody else's business on your body, not to be a TOOL of advertising.

I wear Levis 501 jeans. All I wear. They fit my goofy body right. Wranglers don't fit me. But... I don't ever pay $50 for a pair of Levis. I buy them used, I pay $10. I wash em, and they're good as new. Levis didn't make a monkey outa me. My t-shirts don't promote anyone but me. And I didn't pay a premium for them, either. People who pay more than three dollars for cotton t-shirt that costs some company 25c to make, the fruit of hundreds of starving little chinese kids, is being ripped off.

Shoes... shoes... shoes... Listen, you're going to love this. I buyed NINETY DOLLAR shoes from REI, wore em for three months, and the sole wore off. I buyed, on a lark, FIFTEEN DOLLAR shoes from... Walmart! And they lasted almost a year. I am a HUGE fan of cheap chinese labor and complex, bad-for-the-environment chemical polymers that allow a shoe sole to last a whole year. And yep, I was in Walmart. Cause Home Depot was out of ceiling fans and I needed a couple of em. So what? (PS - The ceiling fans I bought at Walmart sucked, and I won't be buying ceiling fans from Walmart no more.)

I use Heinz ketchup. Hunts ketchup sucks. I buy for brand. I buy Reynold's Wrap aluminum foil. No other foil works as well. I buy "Q-Tip" brand cotton swabs, because they are the best -- the cheap ones come apart in your ear, and then you're up the creek with cotton in your ears. And you know how painful that can be.

I drive a car, yes, with a label on it. But, anyone who knows me will say that if a no-brand car were available, I'd be driving it.

You just have to be smart, is my point. You have make choices about what you want to be in the world. And I choose not to be a walking free billboard.

When they describe me to the police, they won't be able to say, "He had a pair of Tommy Hilfiger jeans and a shirt that said 'Abercrombe & Fitch' on it!" They'll be like, "Um, officer, I really don't remember what he was wearing. Might have been blue jeans and blue or black t-shirt? I don't know."

MC

Micah Cohen

what about Syd Barrett.

Well, Syd is the founding germ of Pink Floyd, right? And there are many people who think that, if you wanna get technical, it stopped being Pink Floyd when Syd bombed out.

But I think that it was Roger who gave the struggling Syd-less group a real cohesive direction and thought processes. Of course, I also believe that the best things the band did were products of THE BAND together, four amazing musicians working together. But you're talking about like four mid 70s albums and that's it. By "The Wall" it was mostly Roger, and it shows. "The Wall" is an amazing, mind-bending achievement. But by that time the band was already coming apart, and I personally would have liked to see more of Gilmour on that album.

Be that as it may, when Roger ended things, the band really lost that coherent direction and ideal. Sure, they could make stuff that all sounds like "pink floyd music," they could do that forever. But the songs didn't ever hang together with a central theme like they did when Roger was guiding the band.

Syd? Syd left early on, but you can hear and see his influence on everyone from Roger's Floyd to Peter Gabriel's Genesis and Yes.

MC

Maurice

Originally posted by Micah Cohen
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I am a HUGE fan of cheap chinese labor and complex, bad-for-the-environment chemical polymers that allow a shoe sole to last a whole year.

MC [/B]

Damn Dude, LOL

TroyD

Try LL Bean shoes, the ones actually made by LLBean. Lifetime guarantee, can't beat it. I've got a pair that I've worn almost daily since 1994 which, I obtained in exchange for a pair that I bought in 1987 and wore a hole in the sole of.

BDT

TheReaper

Originally posted by Micah Cohen
... And yep, I was in Walmart ...

Shopping at Walmart definitely qualifies you as a sheeple. If you want to buck the trend, shop KMart.

aaharvel

Originally posted by TheReaper
Shopping at Walmart definitely qualifies you as a sheeple. If you want to buck the trend, shop KMart.

baaaaaa! baaaaaaa! Wallyworld saves me $! baaaaaaaa!

You can catch diseases shopping at K-Mart. baaaaaaaaa!

jet2001

I have to baaaaa, for Wal-Mart as well...same groceries for less money, not a tough choice there.


The points on being an educated consumer are well taken, yet I think you're preaching to the choir in a Polk Audio forum.

avelanchefan

Originally posted by PolkThug
Agreed.

That "Dust in The Wind" SUV commercial they show every 15 minutes pisses me off.

PolkThug....you have been reading my mind for the past week. Subaru will never get my money because of it. Yeah they got my attention, but it has turned me off enough to say eff you Subaru.

MacLeod

I think WalMart is the devil!

I drive a beer truck for a living and I deliver to 3 different Walmarts.

Let me tell ya, there is no bigger collection of **** in the entire universe than Walmart managers!

I dont support them because I want their managers to rot in hell!

aaharvel

Originally posted by MacLeod
I think WalMart is the devil!

I drive a beer truck for a living and I deliver to 3 different Walmarts.

Let me tell ya, there is no bigger collection of **** in the entire universe than Walmart managers!

I dont support them because I want their managers to rot in hell!

Hey MacLeod- we meet again.
It all leaks from the top down. Those managers are under tremendous pressure to meet quotas & deadlines. I worked for Lowes Companies in their marketing dept. at the C.O. as much as my boss was a **** his boss was that much more so- and it all came down on him. That's when I decided i wanted to go back to school and get my Masters. What I had just wasn't enough to have to put up with their $hizzle all day 5 a week.

Micah Cohen

First of all, let me just say that I am thankful that I live in a city with a "Greektown," because I love Greeks. I love Greek food, and I love the hot little Greek chicks that serve it to me. Those Greek chicks...

Okay, sorry for that (but, it's MY thread, so I'm not so sorry, really).

Walmart is the devil. It's terrible. But I have to cop to being a fan of cheap chinese labor. I hate that I am, but I am totally in favor of the over populated third world working to make my life better at lower prices. China is where it's at! I love the chinese! India! Hurrah for India! Cheap shoes that last for years because they are made of super duper man made chemical polymers that are waterproof, chemical proof and earth proof, and they only sell for fifteen freaking dollars, they get my vote! I love the third world! Hurrah for the "have-nots" who enable me to be a "have"!

But I'm not buying logo shirts that say "Walmart" on em. I go in, I snag the swag, and I get the hell out of there without touching anything or anyone, quick as I can. I wear a disguise. And I wash thoroughly the moment I get home.

Seen the freaks in these stores? YIKES!

MC

Micah Cohen

I like DLR era VH best, but I wouldn't go so far as to call Sammy worthless... (marker)

Sammy is a great guy. Look how nice I am to say that. He's great. He can sing. We liked him with his first bands, Montrose and that stuff. Early solo stuff might have been okay.

But Van Halen is David Lee Roth. That's just the way it is.

DLR was the first "white rapper" (hello? Listen again to "Fair Warning"). The best party bandleader in rock and roll. The leader of the immoral majority ("Our motto," he used to say, "is AW SHAD UP!"). David Lee Roth successfully synthesized the Beach Boys with Black Sabbath to come up with a totally unique, over the top vibe for American rock and roll for the late 70s.

Now of course, musically, none of this would have happened had the VH brothers not been great musicians. But they'd be nothing (and obviously they are nothing) without a frontman like David Lee Roth. He's just one of those completely unique rock and roll spectacles, a milestone in the art.

And the first four Van Halen albums, which are so short they fit on two CDs, by the way, how convenient, are the best damn rock and roll of the late 70s -- and make pretty much every "rocker" from the 80s and 90s look like women in panties trying hard to rock out. David Lee Roth could kick all their asses.

"Van Halen is 'Get the **** off the sidewalk if ya don't like our drivin' kinda music!" (DLR)

And, as an aside, DLR is a great song writer. You could pick one or two songs off each of even his lamer solo albums and have yourself a kick **** set of great DLR songs. His last solo album, "DLR Band," was actually listenable and not half bad.

Yessir!

MC