Damnit I Think Rti's Are Better Than Lsi's!

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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    It isnt hard for a kid to get something KILLER, killer ANYTHING. If kids just knew the POTENTIAL they have! ha!

    Sid you may be more right than you know.

    I started out when I was 16. I did not know the potential or the trade. I bought Radio Shack. ;)

    honest truth.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited July 2005
    Hehe...

    Well I think its adults fault!

    I mean... We didn't set labor laws! I did work that 18 year olds are only allowed to do legally! :p

    Kids arnt lazy today. We were made lazy. All you old farts can back off! :D

    Radioshack isnt to bad. I have alot of their cables laying around...hmmmmm
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Hehe...Radioshack isnt to bad. I have alot of their cables laying around...hmmmmm

    cables- Yes.
    Speakers- Noooooo.

    good to see an early bird on here other than myself.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited July 2005
    I havnt slept since 5pm - yesterday. This would be like 12 oclcock for me... hmm

    Radioshack has decent cables, the only good ones are the Fusion - which I havnt even tried. I just skipped over that and went straight to Signal Cable. No going back now. Time to get Power Cable.

    Da*n you Mark! Why did I have to sign up for that demo. EFFFF.

    Optimus/RCA speakers have a place in the market, they are along the lines of KLH.

    You can't forget the Optimus/RCA speakers with THAT Tweeter. That thing was SWEET sounding to be honest. It cost 200 a pair and was a pretty small speaker, was very solid build. I wanted a pair...yet I didnt. Sad to see them discontinued.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    You can't forget the Optimus/RCA speakers with THAT Tweeter. That thing was SWEET sounding to be honest. It cost 200 a pair and was a pretty small speaker, was very solid build. I wanted a pair...yet I didnt. Sad to see them discontinued.

    The Lx-5.
    Linieaum Dipole Tweeter.

    had 4 of them with the matching center. They sounded horrible imo, especially for music. Thanks to the Ribbon Dipole Tweet the LX5's made for 'interesting' surround speakers but that's pretty much it. You didn't miss a thing.

    I've been up all night too. Studying for a Spanish Test I have in about oh... 2hours.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited July 2005
    Hmm, I only heard them at low volumes at RS. They sounded pretty good at that stand point. They would of made good computer speakers...

    I was checking out computer speakers the other day. I really shouldnt look at anything that cost more than 5 dollars. Saw these Altec Lansings I believe it was... had the surround channels built into the mains - firing at about 45 degrees (right channel to the left side, vice versa) - that thing sounds pretty darn good to me. Its probally because I just like weird designs. Traditional does nothing for me.

    I need stuff firing to the side, top, back, bottom, inside, outside, on the roof.

    I need sleep.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Early B.
    aaharvel -- what college do you attend?

    I attend UNCGreensboro EarlyB(ird?) I'm 28- an older student. I'm getting my masters in both Sociology and Political Science. Looking into freelance commentary when I graduate in a year.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2005
    You buy speakers for their tonal character. Forget price, specs (to a certain degree), and the speakers position in the "line."
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by aaharvel
    The Lx-5.
    Linieaum Dipole Tweeter.

    had 4 of them with the matching center. They sounded horrible imo, especially for music. Thanks to the Ribbon Dipole Tweet the LX5's made for 'interesting' surround speakers but that's pretty much it. You didn't miss a thing.

    I've been up all night too. Studying for a Spanish Test I have in about oh... 2hours.


    Oh, yeah you did... Add some bracing and tear out some of the crap parts and they sound GREAT. Of course they are still stuck in surround duty... :(

    The cabs are too thin and vibrate. That's where most of the bad sound comes from and they are only really good down to 100Hz
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2005
    I attend UNCGreensboro
    Great school. I graduated from there a long time ago. Best 4 years of my life were spent there.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Man I was wondering who was going to chime in first.

    It isnt hard for a kid to get something KILLER, killer ANYTHING. If kids just knew the POTENTIAL they have! ha!

    I mean I started working when I as TWELVE. All because of this effing hobby. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.

    *Going to listen to music*

    Slow and Steady wins a race, if you want the LSi series - save for them. That is that. Simple Simple.


    Had my 1st LSi at the tender age of 22.... *sigh*, that was so long ago - exactly a year.

    *Brings tears to my eyes*.

    Still have them and trying to build around the 9s even moreso than before.

    Good ol' Polks. :D
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by marker
    Well AAH, keep in mimd when you get my age you aren't as picky as you used to be either!:p
    When I read this I thought you were 50 or 60. To be honest, now at 33 I'm much pickier than I was 10 years ago. Now I will take quality over quantity...

    And LSi's for me please, I can't listen to RTi's anymore after experiencing the LSi's.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2005
    I just got my Lsi's and they are way better then Rti's. I can't wait to get my musical Fidelity integrated amp next week, then they are gonna sound really nice. Oh yea, I'm a kid. I'm 17 until October, and I started out with Aiwa and Yamaha lol.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited July 2005
    Hey Airplay,
    Make sure you do not use the gold plated connectors that come with the LSi's. They have a noticeable sound degregation when you use them. It's better if you connect with good wire or even better, bi-wire.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • marker
    marker Posts: 1,084
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Sami
    When I read this I thought you were 50 or 60. To be honest, now at 33 I'm much pickier than I was 10 years ago. Now I will take quality over quantity...

    Well, I'm not quite THAT old yet, but, it's nice to know that if and when the time ever comes that I'll need it, Viagra will be there for me to give me a reason not to be so picky!:p
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2005
    Thanks Chuck. For now they don't have anything to power them so the jumpers will be fine lol. I just threw them on the carver amp to make sure nothing was damaged in shipping and to get a first impression; I had never heard Lsi 7's before. Once my MF amp comes in, I'm going to biwire them with Monster cable. I know, I said the M word, but it's all I have and I can't be spending any more money on speaker stuff lol
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Airplay355
    I just got my Lsi's and they are way better then Rti's. I can't wait to get my musical Fidelity integrated amp next week, then they are gonna sound really nice. Oh yea, I'm a kid. I'm 17 until October, and I started out with Aiwa and Yamaha lol.

    You young'un! You're younger than ME! Oy... :( .

    Anyway, good luck with that... your next step would certainly be the LSi9.... whoooowhee!
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  • unbridled_id
    unbridled_id Posts: 179
    edited July 2005
    I listened to the lsi 15 and rti 10's at fry's.
    They were driven by an onkyo 800 and that goofy top gun movie was playing, I do not know the dvd brand. I can certainly say that the rti is more up front than the lsi. In that setup the rti's were bright, but they are not nearly that way in my setup, and thank goodness that is the case. The setup and placement was piss poor and the volume was too high but I could not tell a difference in detail retrieval. However in that setup with that equipment the lsi was the better speaker.
    Even the polk rep I spoke with said that the lsi being better was subjective... I know those who pay two times the price feel the need to say it is better and perhaps it is..... but not twice as good ;)...
    The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.

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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by unbridled_id
    but not twice as good ;)...
    It depends. If you listen to music then they are more than twice as good... :)
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  • unbridled_id
    unbridled_id Posts: 179
    edited July 2005
    Is that difference measurable ?
    The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.

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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by unbridled_id
    Is that difference measurable ?
    do you have to measure it to be able to hear it? I hear a HUGE difference between the two lines, way more than twice the performance therefore yes, twice the price is a bargin. :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited July 2005
    The difference is noticeable with the gear.

    Onkyo is not exactly my first choice to drive the LSi series.
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  • unbridled_id
    unbridled_id Posts: 179
    edited July 2005
    You do realize that I do have to justify what I own. I have stated on several occasions that I would love the have the lsi-15's.... I wonder what makes the biggest difference in sound between the two, the tweeter, the crossover ?
    The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.

    Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
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  • unbridled_id
    unbridled_id Posts: 179
    edited July 2005
    Honestly the best way to know for sure for myself would be to get some lsi-15's in here. I do have to admit I like the laidback sound that the lsi's seem to offer.
    My amp (nad c272) is typically described as a warm rich sounding amp so perhaps the more forward rti's would suit that better ? Perhaps not !!!
    The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.

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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    The difference is noticeable with the gear.

    Onkyo is not exactly my first choice to drive the LSi series.

    What about Integra Sid? Is there really a difference between the two to justify the price? I myself don't like or dislike Onkyo.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited July 2005
    No receiver can power the LSi adequately.

    The only ones I know of are from B&K, Rotel, NAD, Outlaw. None of those run-of-the-mill stuff will do it. Even then, seperates are better to have.

    They are just power hungry speakers. So is the RTi line really.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by madmax
    Hey Airplay,
    Make sure you do not use the gold plated connectors that come with the LSi's. They have a noticeable sound degregation when you use them. It's better if you connect with good wire or even better, bi-wire.
    madmax

    Hey would I notice a difference if I replaced the gold jumpers on my rti4's with wire jumpers?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by aaharvel
    Hey would I notice a difference if I replaced the gold jumpers on my rti4's with wire jumpers?

    yes
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    yes

    hey Sid help me out then would you? I'm not knowledgable with wire jumpers or anything like that. Where should I start looking?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited July 2005
    One way...

    Just gotta take 6" of wire and run it from terminal to terminal, then slide the main wire in there with it on one of the set of posts...

    You can do combos with spades and nanners too..
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