Can this possibly sound as good as it looks?

George Grand

I don't try and detract from Kloss' accomplishments in any way, shape, or form. He was a monster figure from the golden age of hi-fi. Ed Villchur never gets the credit due him though. He wasn't passionate about audio. The acoustic suspension loudspeaker and the AR turntable were just engineering problems that needed solutions to his eyes. He did that stuff, sold to Teledyne, and never did anything else consumer audio oriented (unless you consider pioneering work in hearing aid technology to be consumer audio).

Kloss however stayed in the industry and really made a lot of great stuff, over the course of 5 decades. I have a lot of his stuff, including the Advent cassette deck, and the Wollensak it evolved from.

Allison stuff is ALL special. You can find Allison's stuff in the early AR speakers (if all he ever did was the AR-5 it would have been enough), the Allison brand he founded after that, and RDL (Room Designed loudspeakers) which he started in the early 90's. I drove up to that factory in Massachusetts around 1994 and walked out with a pair of the RDL Mini-Reference, a 6" two-way sealed box. Still have them. I would like to find a pair of Allison IC-20's someday. At a yard sale.


George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)

audiobliss

Originally posted by BrentMcGhee
standing in cructfhield

Whoa!! Crutchfield has a brick & mortar store?! Awesome! I didn't know that!

Audiokarate089

Originally posted by BrentMcGhee
Yep yep yep...... well at least me being more into the home audio side of things i do really dont have to put up with alot if ignorance becasue all of the little ghetto kids could care less about home audio they have there aiwa boom boxes with the 1000 watts of power gigatubes on them..... the ignorant normally spends all there time around car audio. I feel kind of bad for the educated people on the car side i do not know how they put up with it.

Car audio has gotten so bad though.... I had to buy a new cd player for my car two weeks ago becasue my other finally just died and i just felt dirty and disgusting standing in cructfhield looking at the wall of all the car audio equipment becasue i know that 99% of everyone that ever stood right where i was is a moron. Especialy when not 10 feet away there were these two ingorant punks that were playing with all of the subwoofers, and not only were the disapointed when they asked a sales guy if they had and 15's but they would keep turning the subs all the way up (by the way completley distorting) and all i would hear was.... Damnnnnn!!!!! that **** is tight dawg!!!!!!!

AAAArrrgrrggghhhhhhhh!!!! I need to stop coming back to this thread... i am going to end up having a heart attack at 20!!!!

I can defintly relate to all of you. I work at ccity in car audio mainly because I dont have to talk to the store manager because he never comes back there ha. Anyways I see those kinda people coming in all the time who wouldnt know good sound if it came up and took a huge chunk out of there ****. I personally dont like to much back there. I remember getting a kicker Ls5 I think...anyways a Fellow associate had the thing blasting, nothing but a distored mess and I couldnt believe how many people thought it sounded good...I was completly awestruck. ANYWAYS nothing like a good rant I have found this post rather intriguing good to find people who like home audio as much as me

• Fronts: RTI 12's
• center: CSi5
• Rears: RTi100's
• sub: Velodyne CHT-12
• Reciever: HK AVR520
• 2 channel amp: Parasound A23

heiney9

Originally posted by Audiokarate089
I can defintly relate to all of you. I work at ccity in car audio mainly because I dont have to talk to the store manager because he never comes back there ha. Anyways I see those kinda people coming in all the time who wouldnt know good sound if it came up and took a huge chunk out of there ****. I personally dont like to much back there. I remember getting a kicker Ls5 I think...anyways a Fellow associate had the thing blasting, nothing but a distored mess and I couldnt believe how many people thought it sounded good...I was completly awestruck. ANYWAYS nothing like a good rant I have found this post rather intriguing good to find people who like home audio as much as me

I haven't sold audio in about 10 years and ignorance was bad then. That's one of the reason's I got out of it. I couldn't imagine trying to sell mid/high end products today. Those types of stores just seem to be disappearing all the time. The only store in this town that sold mid/high end products, the one I used to work for, had been in business since 1957. They went out of business about 5 years ago because they couldn't compete with the big box stores. By the time I left they had turned into 80% home theater and 20% audio store and still couldn't make it. I could never ever sell audio again. The core buyers have shifted to accepting/buying mediocre (at best) equipment.

H9

BrentMcGhee

Originally posted by audiobliss
Whoa!! Crutchfield has a brick & mortar store?! Awesome! I didn't know that!

yeah man..... they have a few... the one i go to is in charlotesville va

audiobliss

That's awesome. I may hafta beg and see if we can make a trip out that way. How big is the joint? I bet it'd hafta be pretty large to hold all that gear.

BrentMcGhee

it is not really all that big.... probably about 75% the size of say a circuit city.

The coolest thing about the place though is they have a gigantic scratch and dent section. I have gotten almost all of speakers from there. Everytime i go there i go straig to the back to check out that section