How close are you to Highend? True highend sound
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Originally posted by RuSsMaN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5777362880
Whaaaaat no one has even bid?Skynut
SOPA® Founder
The system Almost there
DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
Sunfire Theater Grand II
Sherbourn 7/2100
Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
Sur FX1000
SVS ultra plus 2
www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
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My bad.:(
I am thinking about getting the Sherbourn 7/2100 amp I was asking people about a few weeks ago.
The thing seems to be built well and since I can not find too many of them I figure people who buy them like to hang onto them.
I just bought new power cords for my subs and I really want to put some sound panels and tube traps in my room and on the walls to help with sound management.
That is my plan for now.......more to come.Skynut
SOPA® Founder
The system Almost there
DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
Sunfire Theater Grand II
Sherbourn 7/2100
Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
Sur FX1000
SVS ultra plus 2
www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
Thanks for looking -
I'm at the bottom of true high end but
My system is sounding better then ever. I'm happy and I think thats what matters most. Your system makes you feel good, emotional, then you have reached the level.
High end is a term and it's insane how HIGH END it goes.
DanDan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time. -
No more purchases for me are planned. I'm thinking of modding the crossovers in my speakers, but it sounds great right now IMO, so I may come to my senses and decide not to do it.
High end, low end -- how about Early's end? Yeah, that's where I'm at.
The end.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
"God grooves with tubes." -
You are trying to find out what with this question?
That's just it. Define "High End" sound. I'm not trying to be a smart ****, but when you listen to a recording, you are hearing what the someone else thinks sounds best. Now you might like it, you might not.
IMO, a rig reflects what you want it to do. just as the musician tries to convey their feelings in the music.
Now there are some purists who think that a perfect reproduction of the recording is the idea of "high end". Everything has it's own colorization, and all will reflect it in the reproduction. Every thing, wires, power, transport, DAC, pre, amp, speaker.....
What you are asking for is opinions, but you choose to think some are not what you are asking for. How's that??? -
Originally posted by steveinaz
The term "high-end" was developed so small-dicked audiophiles with deep pockets can somehow justify spending unbelievable amounts of money on equipment that performs marginally better than something a tenth of the price found with careful research.
That's a silly statement.
High Fidelity is high fidelity. If your system is capable of reproducing the frequency spectrum applicable to humans, while keeping distortion and noise to a minimum, and doing so in a realistic fashion; you're there.
I disagree, I think it's about the musicality and tone.
Having said that, I'm not planning any major changes to my main rig as I'm pretty happy with it and don't think I could improve upon it without a really large cash outlay. I do want to add another PS Audio UPC-200 and upgrade the crossovers in the SDA's. After that, I'll see where things stand. The shop rig still needs a tube pre amp and power amp...I'm thinking BAT. I'm also toying with the idea of a small all tube set up in the bedroom.
BTW, Jeff Rowland gear is without question true high end, IMO.
Russ, I could see you owning that rig.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Originally posted by steveinaz
The term "high-end" was developed so small-dicked audiophiles with deep pockets can somehow justify spending unbelievable amounts of money on equipment that performs marginally better than something a tenth of the price found with careful research.
Riiiight.... I think high end exists because there is always improvement to be made - although the price may not always reflect these "improvements". Improvements that exist, if not only in the minds of the makers.
There is no question that the law of diminishing returns plagues higher-end speakers (as it does for everything materialistic in life), but it still doesnt take away from the fact that high-end is generally better than low-end. The gap may not be as wide as you would like it to be, considering the price, but it *is* there (unless this type of high end is a shady one.... like bose),
I think comments like those made above show how ignorant some people can be. Just because this type of high-end definition doesnt fit you, doesnt mean you have the right to make a statement as naive and silly as that.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
i think highend means different things to different people it does not have to mean buffy and skip buying boutique audio jewelry to impress thier yuppy friends .to me it means the quality of the build and the sound. cost and sound are not exclusive to each other. some so called statement audio gear is for people with more money than brains. if you get caught up in worrying about if the brands you use are impressive enough are you really doing this hobby for the music?Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
.Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers. -
Originally posted by Joey_V
I think comments like those made above show how ignorant some people can be. Just because this type of high-end definition doesnt fit you, doesnt mean you have the right to make a statement as naive and silly as that.
Paying $2200 for an interconnect is about as naive as it gets. It's just simply my opinion, in my experience. No matter what you buy, there will always be something "higher-end" so where does it end? If your equipment is truly hi-fi, anything beyond that is fancy materials, exotic woods, and immaculate workmanship---all wonderful things, but what do they do for the music? You can have an aluminum row boat, or one made out of solid Mahogany, they both still float, right?
I stand by my comment, it's called an opinion.
The "small dicked audiophiles" comment was a stupid thing to say, please replace it with "audio snobs."Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 -
If you have to use meters, scopes, or gauges to measure the difference between equipment, then IMO you've got some serious priority issues. But, I guess if I won the powerball, I could see myself spending gaudy amounts of cash on some exclusive pieces that only a few privileged people can afford. But for now I'll have to make do with my high-low end gear, which sounds pretty damn good to my 37 year old ears."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE" -
I am pleased that I am the only member of the Polk forum who owns a truely HIGH END system and hope that each and everybody here is jealous of me.
Just ask the Rooster and he'll tell ya!!!!
HBomb:D***WAREMTAE*** -
Yeah, where would you be Henry, without me? Drunk, and listening to bad sound, thats where.
Remember, your next kid gets named after me.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
My system sits on the low end of my entertainment center."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE" -
And so long as you stay your nice friendly self & don't start putting down the rest of us for our low-end rigs, it's cool.
You become a high-end snob, WATCH OUT!!!:D
Wait a minute, we both have RTA-8T's, I guess I'm in the high-end with you!:p :cool:Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Originally posted by amulford
I am still building. It won't ever stop. But I'm not trying to reach "audio nirvana". If that's your aim, then hey, whatever blows your skirt up. My priorities may differ.
Well ok then! If you ever get rid of those Soundstream amps in your truck then I want first dibs!Expert Moron Extraordinaire
You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you! -
Short-term I've got the Gallo SA amp and center reference speaker in my sights. Mid-term, a better amp for my mains. After that, who knows? DAC? Tube pre? Blu Ray?
The short-term additions are to get me to a place where I won't feel like I have to upgrade (yea, like that's gonna happen).Main System:
PreAmp: Rotel 1098 with MF X-10v3
Amp: Rotel 1090, 1075, 1070
Source: Pro-Ject RM9 with Blackbird Cart., Denon 2900 with MF X-DACv3
Speakers: Gallo Ref 3s (LR), Gallo Due (C, SR, SL), Gallo Micro (RR, RL)
Second System:
Receiver: H/K AVR 630
Source: Pioneer 563
Speakers: Polk RTi10s (LR), CSi5 (C), RTR 200 (SR, SL) -
Is there really a "true high-end sound"? How do you define it?
To me, a perceived true high-end sound is more of a State of Mind, relative to reality. It is directly influenced by emotional and psychological NEEDS to justify spending more money into upgrade, and it changes with priority of the day/week/month with the rest of discretionary spending budget, and last but not least, spending too much time on this board!
over and out..I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
Originally posted by cfrizz
Wait a minute, we both have RTA-8T's, I guess I'm in the high-end with you!:p :cool:
Cathy, you're close, you just need to get your hands on some big tubes.
Cheers,
RussCheck your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
Wow thanks Russ!
But tubes make me nervous, what happens when one blows? Is it as easy as changing a light bulb?
That and the fact that is sounds like it's so old fashioned.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Originally posted by cfrizz
Is it as easy as changing a light bulb?
That and the fact that is sounds like it's so old fashioned.
Yes
and
Thats is another part of the lure.....
HBomb***WAREMTAE*** -
Originally posted by RuSsMaN
Cathy, you're close, you just need to get your hands on some big tubes.
Cheers,
RussOriginally posted by cfrizz
Wow thanks Russ! But tubes make me nervous, what happens when one blows?
:eek:2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones -
Dirty minds."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE" -
dragon1952
I agree, that sound kinda kinky.Skynut
SOPA® Founder
The system Almost there
DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
Sunfire Theater Grand II
Sherbourn 7/2100
Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
Sur FX1000
SVS ultra plus 2
www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
Thanks for looking -
Hands around blowing tubes sounds like it could get sticky."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE" -
Good to know I wasn't the only one going down that road...Main System:
PreAmp: Rotel 1098 with MF X-10v3
Amp: Rotel 1090, 1075, 1070
Source: Pro-Ject RM9 with Blackbird Cart., Denon 2900 with MF X-DACv3
Speakers: Gallo Ref 3s (LR), Gallo Due (C, SR, SL), Gallo Micro (RR, RL)
Second System:
Receiver: H/K AVR 630
Source: Pioneer 563
Speakers: Polk RTi10s (LR), CSi5 (C), RTR 200 (SR, SL) -
Originally posted by cfrizz
That and the fact that is sounds like it's so old fashioned.
Cathy,
Anyone who lists their tape deck and turntable in their sig line has no reason to worry about sounding old-fashioned because of tubes.
MichaelMains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
dragon1952, ND13, Skynut, & Crazed. :rolleyes: Do try to get your minds out of the gutter!:rolleyes:
McLoki, Until you pointed it out, I never thought of it!
Touche':DMarantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Yes ma'am."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE" -
In the future I plan on upgrading my xovers in the 1.2's and then maybe work on the CT. (Car Theater). Right now I'm working on the new computer. I just got an audiophile quality sound card I want to use to record some LP's just to see if I can pull more out of them than the CD recorder I have. Actually, the HT could use some work right now too.
madmaxVinyl, the final frontier...
Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... -
Originally posted by RuSsMaN
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Yo Russ......your system went for $249.99 :eek: Un-be-freakin-lievable
And I've evidently been reported to Ebay Safe Harbor (whatever the f**k that is) along with some other psychotic nutcase :cool: All I did was ask a simple freakin' question2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones