Sin City

Pines

I agree with Mike W. I listened to the DTS track and when certain actors spoke there was a hissing noise behind it. It got pretty irritating by the end of the film. Pretty much ruined it for me.

michael_w

Pines wrote:

I agree with Mike W. I listened to the DTS track and when certain actors spoke there was a hissing noise behind it. It got pretty irritating by the end of the film. Pretty much ruined it for me.

Thanks Pines. Very nice to know I wasn't the only one hearing that. I wonder if it is only on the dts track.

Pines

I will watch it again over the weekend with Dolby and see. It was strange considering the Audio Quality hype it got in this post.

Holydoc

I agree with Pines. There is definitely something wrong with the DVD version of the narrative audio. It has a background noise of hissing and crackling. Very irritating once you start hearing it. Since I did not go to the movies to see this one, I cannot say if this was a carry over or not.

The cinematography was excellent! The use of colors in the movie to convey mood and gore was captivating to say the least. I could not stop watching it just to see how color would be splashed in to emphasize the next scene. I even found myself disappointed at times when the color seem to come back to a more realistic depiction.

The sound quality was nothing to brag about. Though certain scenes had a bit of surround, it was more in your face type of filming. I guess this was part of the comic book feel too. This movie would have been as good on a 2.1 system as it was on my 7.1 system.

The story line had a Pulp Fiction (as stated before) type of flow. I enjoyed that since Pulp Fiction was one of my favorite movies due to its unique way of tieing events together.

Overall rating from me (what ever that is worth) is 8 out of 10. Just about all that comes from the cinematography which will blow you away!

VR3

I'm fairly indifferent about this.

Although I enjoyed the film, I didn't really like it to the point of ever... ever watching it again. But it was really cool.

And yep, I heard that histling and crackling at certain points (in the beginning and the end, two different scenes) - very annoying...

Good story, cool filming... enjoyable...worth a rent. I wouldn't buy it.

mlware

phuz wrote:

Something tells me this is dripping with dry sarcasm...

No I really think it sucks. Marketable cynicism. Things prev. thought of as cliches or kitsch are now bleached of context and blown up to be the end in themselves and written about as high art. But it's 100 percent commercial and mainstreamed. Fluff.

phuz

mlware wrote:

No I really think it sucks. Marketable cynicism. Things prev. thought of as cliches or kitsch are now bleached of context and blown up to be the end in themselves and written about as high art. But it's 100 percent commercial and mainstreamed. Fluff.

It's comic book stories man, not Shakespeare.

jwienand

It was OK, I also wish the storie line were more related.

Micah Cohen

It was a hot night in Charm City when I finally got a chance to sit down and watch this thing all the palookas was bragging about. The wind was blowing in from the bay with the stink of real terrible celluloid, and I needed to set the record straight. Two wasted, steamy hours later, I was itching for some blood. The blood of Robert Rodriguez and that no-talent copy artist Tarantino. The blood of two lost souls who needed to be set straight. Blood...

You dumb ****. I'm away for what, three weeks, and you all fall all over yourselves praising this piece of ****? Three pages of posts and only like two sensible people saw thru this nonsense. Wow, neet looking! Wow, looks like a comic book onscreen!

Get real, movie fans. You wanna comic book, read a comic book! (Okay, read a "graphic novel," if you please. You're still a grown man reading a comic book!) You want a great film noir, you don't have to go out of your way to steal the tropes of the genre and try to redo them with nonsense.

Movies to rent that look as neet as SIN CITY without phony computer backdrops:
THE THIRD MAN
TOUCH OF EVIL

Movies that make no sense, but make more sense than SIN CITY, in case you like your noir incoherent:
THE BIG SLEEP
THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI

Films that'll make you ashamed you even thought you liked SIN CITY:
CHINATOWN
OUT OF THE PAST
THIS GUN FOR HIRE

Personally, I'm ashamed of Rodriguez. He's used up all his good will from me. There's gonna be a meeting on the docks at midnight. Only one of us'll walk away from that meeting. And it's gonna be me.

MC

VR3

Micah has em laid out, he taunts a bit...

He runs to the rope, spring! He returns to deliver a devastating blow to the noggin and the guy is out cold. He climbs to the top turn buckles, will he do it - HE WILL! He jumps and lands a hard right elbow on the throat of em.

Its over folks, hes not getting up.

Micah 1, Sin City 0. Ouch. So cold.

Micah Cohen

Hey, I'm just saying what needs to be said. You think you enjoyed SIN CITY? Then you need to explore a little and discover that there are better examples of the same thing out there. It's not just how nifty neeto keeno cuel it is that RR did this whole digital thing. Who cares? Actors don't even need to leave their houses anymore, the way this movie is all blue screened. That's not acting.

None of the films I list have dated very much, and most of them achieve the "look" that SIN CITY reaches for organically. They were made well, and in a well made noir the city scape is a reflection of the characters and their mindsets. I mean, Vienna in THE THIRD MAN is... basically it's SIN CITY, but it's frigging real. And the Mexican border town in TOUCH OF EVIL is, well it's basically SIN CITY, but it's frigging real!

Why settle for chewed gum, man? Why not get a fresh piece?

SIN CITY is another example of you all being sheeple and just accepting any old crap that they pipe into your brain. What a load of garbage.

Rodriguez, you owe me two hours! :mad: Nuff said.

MC

Sami

Finally watched it last night. I was expecting a lot from this movie and when you do usually you are a little disappointed no matter how good the movie was. I felt a little disappointed after Forrest Gump due to very high expectations but the movie was great. With Sin City, I was in awe, this movie was more than I expected. Action, story, good to great acting and hot babes that could act. Maybe it was the quality of the cast that made this so good but I also liked the way the movie was made. I loved Kill Bill and this movie was very similar visually.

I rarely watch movies again but I might have to watch this again tonight. If not for anything else than to see Rosario Dawson, Jessica Alba, Brittany Murphy again in this fantastic movie.

Demiurge

I wonder when Micah is going to start producing albums, become the best actor, musican, director, and overall person on the planet. After all, he knows everything and everyone else is an effin idiot. Since he knows everything he should be leading by example and showing these losers how to do their job and tell people how they should react emotionally to subjective things.

"Watch what they do, not what they say."

It's all a bunch of hot air. They're miserable little opinions and at the end of the day I can cue up my **** movies and albums and not give a flying F. I guess I don't understand why you grief every damn person who likes something.

I could go on and on about all the **** music people talk about here, but that would make me look like a pretentious ****. God knows I hate half of it, but I try to keep it to myself because if someone is going to like 'KoRn' I can't really argue with them. If we want to get into music theory and talk about actual musical talent, well, that's a different story.

The gig is wearing a little thin.

ninerbj

AMEN BRO!!!!! *golf claps*

bobman1235

Oh come on man, Micah's a riot. I don't agree with a lot of what he says but he's definitely entertaining, and you got to give him credit for passion in his convictions.

Stop takin it so seriously.

Demiurge

bobman1235 wrote:

Oh come on man, Micah's a riot. I don't agree with a lot of what he says but he's definitely entertaining, and you got to give him credit for passion in his convictions.

Stop takin it so seriously.

Why?

jdhdiggs

Wow, I need some popcorn and a beer, this is starting to get good...

POKE THE BEAR!!!!! POKE THE BEAR!!!!

-justin-

Stop it. First warning. Next person to "dumb" up this thread is outta here.

~JB

Micah Cohen

Who's "dumbing up"?

Really, you can't take me too seriously. I'm passionate about stuff like WhiteSnake and Kansas and The Ramones. I love films like CASABLANCA and BLADE RUNNER and THE GUNS OF NAVARONE... and MOONSTRUCK. I think the original DRACULA is effective and the original FRANKENSTEIN is terrible.

What I'm trying to do is stir up your preconceived notions of what's good and what's not so good. I like plenty of not-so-good stuff. (In my car CD player right now: Y&T... You know, "Summertime Girls"? Idiotic. But great, man, great!) I'm trying to get you to think about the stuff you all say, "I love..." and "this guy is a genius..." about, cause most times we throw around those words and they begin to have no meaning.

And usually, my opinions come from rigorous research. I mean, altho I am prone to shoot off my mouth about stuff I have no clue about. But mostly, I have been there, done that, and I feel I have a pretty well rounded ground upon which to pontificate.

I saw SIN CITY. Everyone raved about it. But, the reality of the world is that it's a con. It's betting that you have never seen TOUCH OF EVIL or THE THIRD MAN. It's a good bet, too, because most people have not seen those films (even tho, judging by peoples' interest in SIN CITY, they would absolutely love THE THIRD MAN). And so, I simply say, if you thought you liked SIN CITY, you should expand your horizons a tad and watch some "real" films that do what SIN CITY attempts to do, and that do it far more successfully. You come away from a film like THE THIRD MAN with so much more actual brain-filling, solid FEELING than you get from a confection like SIN CITY. It's the difference between a steak you make on your grill, and a steak you get at Peter Luger's in NYC, you know?

If you see SIN CITY, and you rave about it, you owe it to yourself (and to your opinions) to explore the genre a bit more and find something really worthy of your raves.

SIN CITY is chaff. THE THIRD MAN is wheat.

MC

ND13

Cool, Micah got all his old posts added back into his totals :cool:

Justin you rock!!

shack

I like to read Micah's posts. He is usually wrong...but at least he doesn't whine.

Micah Cohen

Wrong?

I'm telling you: all you need to do is see TOUCH OF EVIL. Rent THE THIN MAN.

How can I be wrong, when I'm oh so so right?

MC

PolkThug

Micah Cohen wrote:

Wrong?

I'm telling you: all you need to do is see TOUCH OF EVIL. Rent THE THIN MAN.

How can I be wrong, when I'm oh so so right?

MC

Is the man "Thin" or "Third"?

shack

I've seen both of those (you are referring to the William Powell, Myrna Loy, Maureen O'Hara "Thin Man" and Orson Wells, Charlton Heston, Janet Leigh "Touch of Evil"..right?) and "The Third Man" as well. It is extremely easy to recommend these GREAT classic films. "Sin City"...I thought the violence was overdone and that in and of itself makes the film not of my liking. The CG "look" is fine. There's lots of stuff I like that few others do, so I don't care.

And I said "usually".......

shack

PolkThug wrote:

Is the man "Thin" or "Third"?

Probably both...."The Third Man" starred Joseph Cotton.

Micah Cohen

SEE? I'm not always correct: I meant THE THIRD MAN.

THE THIN MAN is pure hollywood. THE THIRD MAN is subversive genius.

Did I just admit to not always being correct? I need more fiber in my diet.

MC

shack

Micah Cohen wrote:

SEE? I'm not always correct:

MC

-justin- can you make this a sticky?

Micah Cohen

It is extremely easy to recommend these GREAT classic films.

But, it's not extremely easy to recommend them. I bet if we called for a show of hands, even here where people are sort of "film buffs," hardly anyone will have seen TOUCH OF EVIL. It's a neglected film that even hardcore Orsen Welles fans sometimes miss.

They are not easy films to watch. Both B&W, both mono sound... TOE is sort of dated, and some of the stuff in it rings false. The soundtrack of TTM is all zither, and the star doesn't even show up for the first hour of the movie. Huh? They are not "straightforward" films. They are not easy to recommend, in my opinion.

Who would be interested in this stuff?

Yet, all the things that SIN CITY tries to do -- stylish, hard-bitten noir violence -- are done in spades in (and very successfully) in these other films. Done BETTER, more organic-ly, more subversively, more EVILLY. They are deeper film experiences than the puddle deep nothing of SIN CITY.

I wish SIN CITY were a better film. But, I personally think it's a better "graphic novel." To achieve cartoon noir, you must reach for true noir. And nothing comes closer to cartoon (serious) noir than TOUCH OF EVIL.

MC