Teacher loses it...

MSkeezer
MSkeezer Posts: 1,183
edited March 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
Dumb kid...

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Be sure to check out the video. This teacher may have gone overboard, but this dumbass kid needs to be taught a lesson.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited March 2005
    Just what we need, more teachers like that. Might solve the **** problem in this country.
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited March 2005
    If that were my Boy I would KICK HIS LITTLE ****!

    That was nothing but absolute disrespect for our Nation and the proud Men and Women serving in the Forces.

    Little ****!
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  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by F1nut
    Might solve the **** problem in this country.

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." --Thomas Jefferson to Archibald Stuart, 1791.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited March 2005
    Kids in schools do NOT have the same rights as adult citizens. A teacher has to be allowed to enforce certain REASONABLE rules to keep discipline in an educational setting. While you may have reasons for not standing during the Pledge of Allegiance, be they that you're a Commie **** or that you just think it's your right to do so, a high school setting isn't the place to do it. I hate to break it to these kids, but they just don't have all the rights they think they have while in the halls of that school. They already said you don't have to say "under God", which is fine, the whole separation of church and State and whatnot. Plus "Under God" wasn't even IN the original Pledge, it was added later. SO I can see that being a legitimate complaint. But you damned well better stand when a teacher tells you to.

    By the way, I haven't seen the video cuz I can't get it to work here at.. uh.. work, but any kind of physical act by the teacher was probably inappropriate. Parents shoudl be able to discipline their kids in any reasonable way they see fit, but if a teacher has aproblem with a kid he or she's gotta be a lot more careful, and certainly getting violently angry isn't something that should happen except in the most extreme situation.
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited March 2005
    It was a setup that the kids did to show how irate the teacher was getting, It was disrespect no doubt!!!

    BUT, the way that teacher was acting is unacceptable... flame me but he needs to set an example.. ASide from the pledge part.. a nd yes i would kick his **** if he were my kid for even trying to make an example during the song... I then would ask why the teacher was yelling and screaming and acting like he couldnt control himself around the other kids .. send him to the office and continue the class..
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  • MSkeezer
    MSkeezer Posts: 1,183
    edited March 2005
    Yeah, he may have have overstepped his bounds a little, but I understand. This puke of a kid needs to learn respect, setup or no setup. I'm glad the kid that videotaped the incident was suspended, and I hope the same happens to the punk who refused to stand. As for the teacher, I don't know what should happen. He should be disciplined, no doubt, but not fired.

    Origially posted by Faster100
    send him to the office and continue the class..

    My wife said the same thing. But, if this punkshit isn't going to stand for the pledge, do you really think he's going to stand up to go the principle's office?
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited March 2005
    The kid was wrong period!


    QUOTE]Originally posted by MSkeezer
    Yeah, he may have have overstepped his bounds a little [/QUOTE]

    Alittle? He was screaming to the top of his lungs! :D

    BUT, it was a rebellion so it seems from the teacher overeacting time and time again in the past.... its just to bad the kids are not knowledged enough to NOT use this time in school to make an example... the kid should have told the principal if he was acting inapropriate, But this never happens either
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  • polksda
    polksda Posts: 716
    edited March 2005
    *sigh*

    What the children of today are missing is a healthy dose of fear. There are no consequences for their actions, hence they run amok.

    Let the beatings commence.
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  • ninerbj
    ninerbj Posts: 870
    edited March 2005
    I myself want to hear what George Grand has to say about this!:eek:
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,775
    edited March 2005
    No fear?

    Have you seen pictures of my Dad?

    @_@... thats fear, hell I'm scared even when I'm good...

    Here, we dont make people say the pledge if it is against their religion, but we require everyone atleast stand...
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited March 2005
    Send the kid off to a foreign land for a few months so he can see how well he's got it being here and maybe that will teach this little twit to show some respect.

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  • NCrewson
    NCrewson Posts: 144
    edited March 2005
    Sorry but that teacher totally lost it. Right or wrong about standing, anyone with that kind of temper who was yelling at the kids BEFORE the song even started doesn't belong in education. If that were my kid, I'd be in the school's office raising hell. I'd also being raising hell at home with the kid. I understand teaching is difficult profession but that doesn't excuse that kind of behaviour. I always found I respected those teachers who tried to relate to me as a soon to be adult and respected me back way more than those who yelled and screamed.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited March 2005
    That little punkass deserved to get yelled at (at a minimum).
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited March 2005
    i hate kids like that
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2005
    And so do his punkass parents for not raising him to have any kind of respect for his country, his elders, and authority in general.

    They should expel his dumb disrespectful ****.

    Originally posted by PolkThug
    That little punkass deserved to get yelled at (at a minimum).
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Okay. Both parties were wrong. If it were my son, I and I alone would have made sure he understood the consequences of his actions. The punk kid did nothing to physically endanger anyone, he just acted like an ****. The teachers reaction was completely out of line.

    You can rest assured, I am not a "My child wouldn't do that!" type of parent.

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2005
    the teacher was wrong for yelling at the student and flying off the handle. he should have just kicked his **** down to the principals off and the three of them should have talked about it after class.

    The student was wrong for not showing common decent respect. He should be expelled for 1 weeeks time.. and made to write a essay on patroitism.

    to bad it's not the 1970's like when i was in school. A teacher back then would have decked him with something. and everyone would have held him down.

    I know times have changed. we can't smack kids like we used to. But i turned out ok. Not that i'd EVER show disrespect like that or anything.

    But (some) kids today just get away with murder. with no consequences at all.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    My first post was a bit more brief than I would have liked, I ordered some Italian cuisine (Yes Poundage, from Russo's. Eat your heart out, I'll eat Russo's fine offering!) and then looked at the thread. I got brief, and then dashed for the food. To expound further......

    The kid is wrong, and should be counselled. But not by yanking his chair out from under him. Had he fallen and cracked his head open, the fine taxpayers of Brick Township would've shouldered some of the burden if not all when the lawsuit flew. Additionally, this kid JUST MIGHT be the next Dick Rutan, Bill Gates, Colin Powell, you get the idea. Doubtful, but possible. Perhaps not however with permanent brain damage incurred during the fall. So everybody's lucky on that count.

    The teacher was obliged to let him carry out his little act of defiance, and then call security, have the kid removed from the classroom, and away from the rest of his cohorts. Expell him? No. I am privvy to have seen the footage of this crap, cause it is all over the local news. The father of the boy who videotaped the entire affair, feels HIS son is being treated unfairly. That is Mr. Zappo. Mr. Zappo appears to be about my age, with shoulder length graying hair, earrings, and a real "touchy-feely" type demeanor. You're not going to budge him. His son was suspended from school for taping the event. I wouldn't have done that. I wouldn't have suspended the other kid either. Here's what I would have done.

    Brick Township is a large township, no doubt using school buses to transport many of the kids to school. With that in mind, I would have suspended the two boys right to be transported to and from school on a school bus. I would have been "too afraid" to allow them to create an adverse situation on a MOVING motor vehicle loaded with other young people. Once the parents of these boys have to take time from their jobs to transport them to AND FROM school, for the rest of the school year, you have their UNDIVIDED attention. Taxi? Costs about $6 a mile here in Jersey for a cab. The boys privately owned vehicle? Suspend their right to use the school parking lot.

    The teacher is obviously an oaf who mishandled his part.

    So the kid didn't want to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. My daughter, BY LAW, is allowed to BURN the American flag, or wear it on her **** as a patch, or wipe her nose with it, without fear of repercussion............... as soon as she no longer lives under my roof. While she's here in THIS house, if she elects to exercise those rights, there will be repercussions. They just won't be of a legal nature.

    And that's a fact Jack.

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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited March 2005
    I was pretty busy and very brief also in my first post so I'll add a bit more substance.

    If that were my Boy I would KICK HIS LITTLE ****!

    then I would approach the school board with regard to a ranting teacher that does seem to have some self control issues and ask for him to be disciplined.

    George and the many others who posted that the teacher is a goof are absolutely correct. I lead by example in my profession and my personel life and am really against abuse in any form.

    Henry
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    We have an organization called DYFS in New Jersey. I believe the kids are taught in school what it's purpose is, how to contact it, and that they should if need be. I'm compelled to take the "hands off" approach here.

    Stephanie has never given us reason to be REALLY firm. She just turned 15. We'll see if we can maintain the status quo with plenty of love, and openness. Should we need to get firm, TODAYS child will suffer through the use of this technique.

    Stereo comes out of the room, along with DVD/CD player and tv monitor. She has a computer in there, but no internet. Computer comes out too anyway. Cell phone is hers on the way to school, and coming home from school. It is a 911 thing cause she has to walk home on most days, and she's as pretty as I am. Internet in the family room is off-limits, in fact, the computer may only be used for schoolwork. No family room tv rights. About the only luxury she would enjoy, is the luxury of reading a BOOK (not a magazine), and doing her schoolwork. No extracurricular activity at all aside from scholastic related events after school, AT THE SCHOOL.

    Harsh, but totally do-able in my book. All she has to do is "ask" for it.

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    edited March 2005
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  • goingganzo
    goingganzo Posts: 2,793
    edited March 2005
    i hate punk a_ _ kids i deal with them all the time i call the bulding atandent and get them kicked out of the bulding. alot of kids now a days have no respect of others. i told a kid he could not do some thing and he got lipy he dident lisen so he left the bulding. heck i saw 3 guys smokeing in a steam room and these wernt cigs the poliece were called but the left befor they got there. but 1 came back later that day and the other 2 the next day how stupid can you be.
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited March 2005
    Regarding the teacher, I think I'd reserve judgment until I could become a fly on the wall and see what else goes on the classroom that we didn't see in the short video. I'd venture a guess that this wasn't the first time there has been a need for his response to actions in his classroom. If he were a true raving lunatic I doubt that he would be able to keep it a secret very long. Considering that the conduct of the students continued after his initial outburst I think it's a safe bet that he's got a few future convicts/bridge-dwellers in his classroom.

    The young "man" that had his chair kicked out from under him has nothing to complain about. It doesn't appear that the teacher ever laid a hand on him, though he certainly needed one...or two. His lack of respect for the teacher and our National Anthem is disgusting and lends credence to the argument that some people should not be allowed to breed. His parent(s) must be so proud of little junior.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Then his title should be something other than "teacher".

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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited March 2005
    Warden or Zoo Keeper come to mind.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Okay, what do I do in the following situation? This could happen to ME tomorrow, or the day after.

    I am the armed crewmember on the tanker now. No ****. Ever since 9-11, if we haul passengers, I am required by regulation to have a loaded 9mm sidearm on me, with full 15 round clip inserted (ball ammo). If I want to chamber a round and leave the safety off, it's my choice.

    The tanker now has a three person crew. If we haul more than 10 people, we put an extra boom operator on board in the cargo/passenger compartment for passenger control. 10 people or less, it's just the three of us (me, pilot & co-pilot) in the cockpit. The latrine is right outside the cockpit, no more than 6 feet from my seat in the cockpit. There is also a crash axe in the cargo compartment, mounted on the bulkhead separating cockpit and cargo/pax compartment. Passengers are required to be belted in their seats prior to engine start (about 20 minutes before take-off), and cannot unstrap until I give the go ahead, which is usually 5 or 10 minutes into our climbout.

    Okay, here's the hypothetical situation that COULD occur at any time.

    I am 52 years old, 67" tall, and weigh 135lbs. Immediately after takeoff a big, strapping, 30 year old U.S. Marine unbelts and comes barreling towards the cockpit. I can see him coming because I leave the cockpit door open all the time if we only have a three man crew and no extra boom in the back. He's getting closer to the cockpit with no appearance of stopping. Now he's moving even faster. What should I do?

    If I wait much longer, he's right on that crash axe (crash hatchet to be precise), and at that point he is less than 6 feet from me, and the hatchet can be removed from its mount while on the run.

    Do I pull the 9mm and drill him, and maybe I just drilled a guy who's had the runs all morning and making a beeline for the latrine before I gave the okay for passengers to unstrap? Even a videotape of the event wouldn't tell WHAT his intentions were, provided he didn't touch the crash axe. Maybe he didn't SEE the crash axe and was going to use his sheer size to overpower me, and then get to the pilots. Or maybe he just needed the latrine real bad and wasn't going to wait for someone to tell him he could unstrap and use it. If I hesitate to see if he's going for the latrine, he's already IN the cockpit. If I don't hesitate and just drop him while he's 2 feet from the cockpit door, maybe I just dropped a guy with nothing more than diarrhea on his mind. The videotape won't tell you a thing.

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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited March 2005
    i have a feeling if you told a hard core superior that story his answer would be the marine should **** his pants. but then again i don't know **** about the army. i just thought it was a do what you were told under all conditions type of thing.
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited March 2005
    George,
    Not sure I understand where you are going with this.

    I can guarantee that this Former Marine would **** his boxers before doing anything that could be perceived as a threat to the aircraft or the flight crew. I also know that anyone in that situation, carrying a loaded firearm, knows the rules of engagement and would take action in line with the orders he/she is given with regards to the use of deadly force.
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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited March 2005
    I love how that kid throws this in...

    "Jay said that he didn't have any political reasons for his refusal to stand but that he wanted to sit because he feels it is his right to do so and that right was being threatened by Mantel."

    Yeah right, he did it because it is his RIGHT to do so. ****! He's a punkass kid just trying to get attention, some laughs and look cool in front of the other students. THAT'S ALL!!! Don't give me "it's my right" ****. I was a kid in highschool and am fully aware of how punkass students act. It's an attention getter to most likely impress some piece of **** in class or look cool in front of his buddies.

    Yeah, the teacher was out of line. Just tell the kid to get out of class and go to the principals office. Don't be an **** teacher because that only entices the students to act off even more.


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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Frank,

    Never received 5 seconds worth of Rules of Engagement for the situation, nor do I know of any other booms that have. I just know that I qualify every three years with the 9mm. Never received 5 seconds worth of R.O.E. for ANYTHING regarding that 9mm while on the airplane

    I just know that ever since 9-11 "I" am the armed crewmember if we carry passengers.

    What do I do? What will the videotape show (we don't HAVE a videocamera)?
    It's your fly on the wall comment that I'm getting at.

    Bedtime..........

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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