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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited March 2005
    Trey, those look REALLY nice! Good work!

    As far as routers go, they are the most valuable tool you can have when making speakers. I've been doing DiY speakers for about nine months now, hardcore, and after using a router for the first time about three months ago, I was FLOORED! They are God's greatest gift to man! Make sure you get a plunge router and a Jasper Jig to cut your circles. Roundover bits for edges, chamfers to let the back of your speaker breathe, rabbets to recess your drivers...the best thing of all is you can use one practically with your eyes closed. Just line up the router bit with the wood, adjust the depth and the bit runs on a bearing against the wood. I was VERY intimidated when I first got it, but after a few test runs I was hooked. The possibilities are endless when it comes to using a router. It's a must-have in my books.

    Also, if you want some links to good speaker building forums, check these out:

    www.diyaudio.com

    www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/discuss.cgi (www.madisound.com for the company)

    www.pesupport.com/cgi-bin/config.pl (www.partsexpress.com for the company)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,775
    edited March 2005
    Hey Early B...

    Can you take some angle/larger shots of the finished product? Etc?

    I want to put some on my site, but wanted some with more light, angles...thanks

    btw - they look VERY good! awesome!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    More pics...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    Another pic...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    And another...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    No 4...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    Last one...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,775
    edited March 2005
    Thanks for the pics...what kind of paint is that??? I like how you can still see the grain! Very cool looking!

    Ugh...what the hell did I do to the back of that one...

    I was using a square to line em up, I think I started the side, with my thumb to the edge...and the other one, I went off the square...lol...sorry
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited March 2005
    With such a great wood like birch, why would you paint it rather than stain it? Otherwise seems like you could have just used MDF , no?
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,775
    edited March 2005
    I dunno... I thought similar...but after seeing them....I wish I woulda painted them...

    I like how the paint didn't wash out the grain....very cool...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    I painted them to match the decor in my Florida room. Didn't want MDF. Blah.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2005
    I personally also would have liked them better stained, but then they're not my speakers.

    So what was the total cost to do these things - without labor?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    Cost without labor was approx. $200.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2005
    How do they sound, or have you had a chance to listen?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I found your post.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2005
    Sid / Early B:

    Would you mind working with me on a pair of these? I'd like to do all the work myself...I just information from the two of you.

    Do either of you have a set of plans for speaker cabinets, a list of materials used, which drivers you used, etc?

    Any info you can forward on will help me greatly. This is something I've wanted to do for a long time and this looks like a fun project. Feel free to respond here of send me a PM.

    THX
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,775
    edited March 2005
    Sure do man...

    http://www.eandr.biz/Vr3_Home_Theatre_Projects_Fostex.html

    Have fun! Everything you need to know....

    Dimensions for 45 degree angle cuts at 8.5" wide, 9.25" deep, 18" tall
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2005
    PM -- you can order the drivers from www.madisound.com. They also have the plans for the enclosures on their site in pdf format. Get the rest of the parts (ports and binding posts) from www.partsexpress.com. PM me with your address if you need some acoustic foam.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Sure do man...

    http://www.eandr.biz/Vr3_Home_Theatre_Projects_Fostex.html

    Have fun! Everything you need to know....

    Dimensions for 45 degree angle cuts at 8.5" wide, 9.25" deep, 18" tall
    So Sid, I assume you didn't build these boxes off the model from the link on your site for the back loaded horn design? So did you just build a box with the dimensions above with a blank interior (except for the foam)? Or did you build the bass reflex box?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,775
    edited March 2005
    bass reflex...

    the dimensions I gave you are external dimensions for 90 degree angle cuts...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2005
    Is there any difference between the FE166E and the FE167E besides shielding?
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    bass reflex...

    the dimensions I gave you are external dimensions for 90 degree angle cuts...
    So did you build this thing exactly per the diagram, or did you make any changes to dimensions anywhere?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,775
    edited March 2005
    The width cut is like 1/16 or so off (bigger) - this was to speed up the process using the table saw, mainly because the frence had a dip in the center, and I had to compensate on a 1/8th...made it much easier...

    However, I would just stick with 8.5" and load down the enclosure top and, back, sides, bottom with foam pads.....

    The foam pads are crucial, as without, there is a huge reverb within the cabinet...so definetely make sure you cover every inch except the front...dont gotta do the front...

    But yeah, the measurements are within 1/16
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2005
    EDIT: Nevermind...
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,775
    edited March 2005
    I used 3/4" wood, so if you do 90 degree angle cuts with 1/2" or so wood, then the measurements would change...

    Internal dimensions...

    are like...

    Internal - Width - 7" : Height - 16.5" : Depth - 7.75"

    (I had it saved)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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