Mods for the Adcom Gfa 555 ?

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,093
    edited December 2004
    Heard those very same AR9's and can attest that they can and will hit you square in the chest. Not bad for an old pair of AR9's. You'd have to spend a ton of cash to match not only the bass response but overall sound quality of those old AR's

    Those that don't know...yada yada yada

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited December 2004
    BS 1,

    There's a lot of older equipment that is well worth owning. Guys like you and Dan, old Mantis boy there, can keep the flavor of the month manufacturers up and running. I'll pick up all the $200/pair AR-9's and stuff and won't look back.

    I don't like the term, "Walking the walk, and talking the talk." Or that other idiot "Walking the path......" horseshit.

    The truth be known, I guess audio-wise I've been doing it for over 35 years. I just don't call it that. I just call it knowing what I think sounds good, and what I think is good value. Dispensing flavor of the month **** advice is as easy as a magazine subscription and nothing more.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited December 2004
    So what were those 555 mods again? :D

    Would love to get this thing up to like 700 watts,
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,841
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by faster100
    The input jacks cracked on me right after i got it

    Should have told you all you need to know right there.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited December 2004
    that's what i thought, first night! dammitt!! LOL

    well gotta work with what i have for now until i resell it and move on to something else.. I did fix the input jacks with little hassle.. the Guy at adcom said upgrade them, dont order replacements... LOL
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Now now GG, temper, temper. There's no need to get so emotional over all of this as you seem to be getting.

    I can't see why you seem to care so much about it. If you (or anyone else for that matter) are happy with what you've got, then that should be all that matters, PERIOD, case closed, end of discussion.

    I just can't understand why would you care what I picked for my speakers, my user name here, what my motorcycle brand of choice is, or what K9 breed my dogs are. Why would any of that even matter to you, as it doesn't involve or concern you in any way whatsoever?

    For example, I personally could not care any less than I already do whether you called yourself George Grand, George Little, George Inbetween, or whatever. It also doesn't matter to me if you have a Harly, Honda, Moped, or a bicycle with training wheels. Nor whether you have a bulldog, chiwawa, cat, parrot, gerbils, any or all of the above, none, or whatever.

    I also want to point out that the gerbil remark was in no way shape or form a "****" reference, as I believe that is where the problems between you and I started when you tried "hitting" on me here before when you thought I was female because of my screen name (yeah, right, as if any woman would ever call herself "Big" anything) and I told you were barking up the wrong tree. But again, whether you or anyone else here is straight, ****, bi, celibate, or asexual, I simply do not care as it is none of my concern.

    As for Dan, I don't always agree with everything he says. Matter of fact, sometimes I think he's off his rocker (and I'm sure he would probably tell you the same thing about me), but sometimes I do agree with him. That's just the way it is, not only in audio equipment, but in life. Due to subjectiveness, you will never have unanamous agreeement on everything here.

    As to the speakers, yes, there are some older models that in some cases exceed their replacements. For example, the pair of speakers I have that I would trot out against yours for sheer slam, impact, and dynamics are a pair of Klipsch KLF30s which were the immediate predassesor to the current Reference 7s, and some people like the KLF 30s better. I can't say as I have never spent much time with the 7s. The 30s I got off of ubid for about @223 each counting shipping, brand new in box, with full warranty.

    They obviously have horn tweeters, but also horn mids, and 2 12" bass drivers each per speaker (just like your ARs). They have a sensitivity rating of like 102 or 104, something like that, and I could drive them with 450 watts of NAD power per side. So I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it would take a lot to cave my chest in as compared to what I'm used to.
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by RuSsMaN
    Yeah, George seems to be partial to 12" woofers, can't say I blame him. Those AR9's have 2 in each cab, and acoustic suspension loading at that.

    They are 3db down at 28Hz, if I recall correctly - and that's chamber loaded - no room gain added, which mean the typical living room will only make things better.

    Plus, the biggest benefit to sealed box, acoustic suspen. bass - is you don't get the typical 'waterfall' drop off in response at the 3db down point, as ported designs do. Properly designed and implemented, acoustic suspen. will roll off at 6db/oct.

    You don't need to have a degree in mathematics, to see they are easily subsonic, at a useable level.

    Cheers,
    Rooster

    I agree Russ. I now have some NHT Evolution T6s which are sealed acoustic suspension, and for music only, I actually like their subs even better than my SVS PB2 Ultra. On movies however, it's a different story.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,841
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by bigsexy1
    That's because he's probably too busy scouring the landfills local to his area looking for some piece of crap 20 year old pair of speakers somebody else threw away so he can come back here to post pics of them and tell us all how they were such great classics back in the day and how somebody was so stupid to get rid of them because all they need is refoaming.:p


    WAY outta line considering what you've offered up here. All in all, it seems to me like you're trying to compensate for a "short" coming.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    This coming from someone who calls themselves a "nut"?

    Just kidding F1. I don't care what you call yourself, or me either for that matter.

    Lighten up dude. I thought that was at least a little funny if I do say so myself, and apparantly Russ did too judging by how he poked fun at it himself. You didn't see him crying about it.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,841
    edited December 2004
    Those that don't get it, don't know that they don't get it and you son, ain't getting it!

    Merry F*cking Christmas,
    Jesse
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    If you've got it, then believe me, I don't want it.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,820
    edited December 2004
    Watch out Jesse is on the attack!
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    Cmon guys... cant we all get along? 12.gif
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Watch out Jesse is on the attack!
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    So was Italy in WWII.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,093
    edited December 2004
    First, I think that Russ was being sarcastic.

    Two, I've heard both the AR9 and the Klipsch KLF30. Not even in the same area code in any test that you would care to apply.

    BS1, you are out of your depth here. You seem to think that because a speaker is more than a few years old that it's obsolete. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you think your gear is great, that's fine, however, don't go trodding on other folk's gear that you've never seen much less heard and not expect to get such a reply ESPECIALLY when all you got to bring to the table is a pair of mid-line Klipsch. Not knocking the Klipsch but they, frankly, are not in the same league as, say, an AR9 or a Carver Amazing or a Polk SDA 2.3tl powered by, in F1's case, some seriously high end gear.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Troy D, I believe that you are the one here who is seriously out of your depth. Go back and show me anywhere on this thread I put down the AR9s, or any other specific equipment for that matter that I "trodded" on as you say. You can't, because I didn't, unless you use where I said I would never buy another piece of Yamaha gear again as the example, but that would be a reach at best on your part. Plus, I didn't knock old gear, except that which had actually been dug up out of a landfill sarcastically. At least know what you are talking about before you go making accusations such as these. Also, don't go preaching to me about if I'm happy with what I've got then fine when I had already said that exact same thing myself before in another post here on this thread to somebody else. And finally don't go telling me what I think with your comment about "you seem to think speakers are obsolete just because they are old". Speaker design has basically been pretty much the same since, what, the 40s or so?

    As for the KLF30s, believe me, I have something MUCH, MUCH better to bring the table than these. I just threw those out there because for sheer slam, impact, dynamics, etc. (in other words, caving your chest in, which is, after all, what we originally talking about here), they would be hard to beat. Take 450 watts of power per channel with their extremely high efficiency and driver size, and you do the math. They are actually a GREAT rock music speaker.

    The best pair of speakers I own right now IMO is my NHT Evolution T6's (which I also mentioned on another post here before that you must have missed too), but that is all subjective. For instance, when I auditioned Polk's RTi12s against the Lsi15s, I actually liked the 12s much better. Some might agree with me, while others won't. I picked up a pair of 12s at CC when they went clearanced at $400 each, and while they do have some "kick" to them, they still can't hold a candle the KLF30s in that regard.

    I intended the land fill comment as a joke. Especially with the "sticking out tongue" smilie right behind it. I didn't think that a few here would get their panties wadded up in such a bunch over it. If I knew that in advance, I wouldn't have said it in the first place. While I know why GG reacted as he did because of an incident that happened in the past, but some of you guys here take things here way too seriously. So, with that, I'm signing out on this thread now because frankly, I've already spent way too much time on it as it is than it's worth to me.

    Seriously, you guys all enjoy your equipment, whatever you've got, be it Wilson Audio or Panasonic Turbo Thrusters from the 70s, and everyone have a Merry Christmas, what's left of it at this point anyway.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,093
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by bigsexy1
    Well that's all well and good GG, but you are the one who first claimed to have a 27 year old pair of speakers that would "cave my chest in and make me wish I had a pair".

    If you are going to talk the talk, you've gotta walk the walk (and I'm not talking about walking the path that is different than just knowing it either). So go ahead and hit me with it. What are they? Don't hurt me too bad now!

    That's what I based my response upon.

    I'm far from out of my depth, I've got some experience with every speaker in this thread and have some idea of what I'm talking about.

    Whatever, I'm done with this. Feel free to put me on your ignore list.
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    OK Troy, I know I said I was through with this thread after my last post, and I know you have also responded in kind by saying that you are finished with it too, but I do fell compelled to ask you this first if you will answer it, just exactly how is what I said that you just quoted in any way saying the things that you claimed I did in your previous post? I want you to explain this one to me if you can, then maybe we'd both know.

    What I said that you just quoted specifically about the speakers were GG's own words about them before I even knew what they were.

    That is what I meant by saying that you out of your depth here, because obviously you don't understand what you've read, and are putting your own spin on it as to how you interpreted it, and frankly, I don't even see how you could have interpreted it the way you said you did. Do yourself a favor if you ever have to go to court, hire an attourney instead of trying to represent yourself.

    As for your "experience" with all these speakers, your opinion on them is just that, your opinion.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,841
    edited December 2004
    Thanks for proving my point time and time again. Your attitude is nothing if not confrontational (which seems to be a pattern with you), your joke was anything but and you are barking up the wrong tree with a couple of guys (BDT & GG) that have forgotten more about audio than you'll ever hope to learn. Some friendly advice, stop digging because your hole is deep enough.

    Oh yeah, I've got it and you can't have it.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,093
    edited December 2004
    BS1,

    I meant what I said. I'm done with you. The whole passive/aggressive thing is a whip. I've got better things to do than participate in any sort of pissing match with you.

    People can read the posts and draw thier own conclusions, frankly, I could care less.

    Please, put me on your ignore list.
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited December 2004
    You have to laugh about it when someone waltzes onto a forum with a name like Big Sexy 1, and then accuses others of making "bold" statements.

    I didn't realize you were bringing mid-line Klipsch to the table here. I am humbled.

    What a yutz!

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by TroyD
    People can read the posts and draw thier own conclusions, frankly, I could care less.

    Yes they can. Maybe they can try to figure how you get this :

    "You seem to think that because a speaker is more than a few years old that it's obsolete. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you think your gear is great, that's fine, however, don't go trodding on other folk's gear that you've never seen much less heard ..."

    From this:

    "Well that's all well and good GG, but you are the one who first claimed to have a 27 year old pair of speakers that would "cave my chest in and make me wish I had a pair".

    If you are going to talk the talk, you've gotta walk the walk (and I'm not talking about walking the path that is different than just knowing it either). So go ahead and hit me with it. What are they? Don't hurt me too bad now."

    As I already stated, that was GG's own words about the speakers before I even knew what they were.

    I can't remember who first came up with that quote "Those that don't know ....", but it definitely applys to you Troy.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,820
    edited December 2004
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    Got the idea? Everyone should shake hands and get this over with... its pointless... lol

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    If you dont... well a painful injury is in your future!!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by F1nut
    Thanks for proving my point time and time again. Your attitude is nothing if not confrontational (which seems to be a pattern with you), your joke was anything but and you are barking up the wrong tree with a couple of guys (BDT & GG) that have forgotten more about audio than you'll ever hope to learn. Some friendly advice, stop digging because your hole is deep enough.

    Oh yeah, I've got it and you can't have it.

    As for you Mr Nut, I haven't "confronted" anybody here that didn't start with me first (except for Russ if you want to call what I said to him that), and that includes you when you tried to project some kind of self anyalisis that you are obviously very experienced with towards me.

    If you "confront" someone and don't expect that same person to come back at you from it, then that shows an obvious lack of intelligience, to put it mildly.
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by George Grand
    You have to laugh about it when someone waltzes onto a forum with a name like Big Sexy 1, and then accuses others of making "bold" statements.

    I didn't realize you were bringing mid-line Klipsch to the table here. I am humbled.

    What a yutz!

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)

    I see you still are obcessed with my user name here GG. You're supposedly a grown man, get over it. Trust me on this, you'll be alright.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,820
    edited December 2004
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    All darling wanted for christmas was some guy named Big Sexy...

    *you wouldnt shut up, you asked for it!* devil2.gif

    Ever since you clowns started arguing, no one is using the electronics section...

    You know how people look at the road when dead animals are there... well when you guys argue, its like looking at a dead animal... Cant help to read/look... ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Sid, if you don't like it, then don't read it. Nobody is putting a gun to your pointed head and forcing you.

    Haven't you got better things to do at your age like go through your daddy's Penthouses? Or are you going to make 60 more posts on one of your own threads here?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,820
    edited December 2004
    Do I have anything better to do... on Sunday....

    at 6:30 in the afternoon, at 30 degrees, in pitch black - no car...

    I'll get back to you on that man... *will have to think about it*

    As for my Dad's penthouses? UMM, I havnt even spoke/seen my Dad in like 6 months...

    As for adding more posts? Why NOT - its not like YOU clowns are doing anything productive, why not break up the posts...

    Why do you even come around here at all man? Its like you only pop in when you can make trouble...

    But hey, I find it amusing when 3 senior members lay the smack down on you... (thus my reading)... boxing001.gif
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    But hey, I find it amusing when 3 senior members lay the smack down on you... (thus my reading)... boxing001.gif

    Yeah, they really beat me down with logic and common sense, didn't they, especially Troy?

    Russ is a grown man, he didn't need all their "brilliant" and "witty" help to defend himself if he had so wanted to. He can dish it out as good as he gets it. Like when you made a thread about a nasty reverb coming from your closet, and someone mentioned something about used spunk rags laying around your room, he said something like "Sid spankin' it like a red ****$ed monkey" that literally made me spit drink out all over my monitor when I read it.

    As for the rest of your post, I don't know what's up with your Dad. Why haven't you seen him if you don't mind my asking?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,820
    edited December 2004
    EH...

    Not for this thread :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,841
    edited December 2004
    After reading your latest babble all I can say is, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    You're even worse off than I first thought. :rolleyes:
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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